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Contents 1 Next issue 2 Interview suggestions 2.1 Lists 3 Deleted GAs 4 Did you know? Problem 5 Third quarter issue 6 Featured Editor

[edit] Next issue

Not that we're in any hurry, but ideas for what will be on tap next issue (I'm assuming it's Q3, correct?) --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 21:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Third quarter is correct. I'd say go with the feature you wrote about FA Maintenance. Feel free to tweak and expand as you see fit. No need to worry about everything fitting in just right anymore.

I was thinking of maybe interviewing User:Mrwojo for the Featured editor. He pretty much got the VG project up and running many moons ago. I think it'd be interesting to find out some history of the project and get his thoughts on its current state. Any thoughts or other editors in mind? Wouldn't hurt to have a list of candidates as a rough outline.

The rest is just keeping up with stats and news. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 22:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC))

Another user we should interview is K1Bond007. He hasn't been active for some time now, but was very much the driving force behind the project in the first few years since being established. Mrwojo did start the project, but was not so active after that. JACOPLANE • 2009-07-2 17:22

I just noticed the "Reference library" is still labeled "Magazines" under "Project Navigation" in the Q2 issue. Not a big problem, but something that should be fixed before Q3 is released. -sesuPRIME 22:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I updated the current issue with the new link. We'll keep it in mind for the next one. Thanks for the heads up. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 22:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC))

For the next issue, we should perhaps include any new task forces that have been launched in the "News and announcements" section. JACOPLANE • 2009-07-2 17:18

Is there a log or archive of such additions? --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 17:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Few are ever officially announced and we normally stumble upon them a couple months after they've been created. We can add the ones we know about to the news section. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 17:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

Perhaps a bot could monitor new task forces by watching Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games and reporting on new 1st level child pages. –xeno^talk 17:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

If that's possible, that would be very helpful. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 17:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

I've asked my favourite bot-writer for help on this. –xeno^talk 18:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I have two suggestions:

1. "Project At a Glance" could include how many articles of each type (FA, GA, etc.) were promoted since the last issue, in addition to the overall total.
2. The "Project Navigation" section could be placed in a drop-down box, hidden by default.

Thoughts? -sesuPRIME 18:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I've fine with keeping the delivery page as short as possible. So hiding the project navigation is cool with me. But I don't think any more stats need to be added beyond what's already there. The number of promotion are already on the quality changes subpage, and I think it's good to give readers interesting tidbits there. It should hopefully get them to read the whole subpage. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 20:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

Personally, I think the project navigation is small enough to not need to be collapsed. I think the extra step of expanding the section is worse. If space is really that critical, the text could be smaller. MrKIA11 (talk) 20:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

(←) I was a bit surprised by how large the newsletter is, and anyone who's familiar enough with WP:VG to subscribe to its newsletter probably already knows their way around the project, so collapsing the navigation doesn't seem to take away anything. Also, would it be possible to place "Project At a Glance" and "Content" side-by-side? I realize some people are using smaller monitors, but neither section takes up much horizontal space. Thoughts? -sesuPRIME 03:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I see the logic to it. Not sure if it's entirely necessary though. What did you have in mind for the structure? A total of four columns evenly split between at a glance and content, three columns split two to one between at a glance and content, or something else? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 19:07, 9 July 2009 (UTC))

Sorry for taking so long to get back to this. I suppose giving one column to each section would be best. With those side-by-side and the navigation section collapsed our Project's newsletter will look sleek and damn sexy! -sesuPRIME 06:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Interview suggestions

Here's a running list of possible editors to interview for future issues. To keep this list manageable, I suggest that nominations should have a number of editors second it (don't know have many though). A max number of nominations wouldn't be a bad idea either. Any thoughts? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 17:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

We can keep a running group and just grab someone when we feel like it, like WP:FCDW. Personally since I know so little about the old days, I'd be interested in grabbing Mrwojo and K1 for a joint review about prehistory. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 18:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

If you want to do an interview about the early days of the project, you should also email Thunderbrand (he's left the project but might respond to email still) who was very, very active in the early days. He single-handedly maintained the old WP:GCOTW when it was still a massive success (evidence). An interview with the old-timers could be really interesting IMO. JACOPLANE • 2009-07-2 18:26

Also, if there is interest, why not have more than one interview featured? JACOPLANE • 2009-07-2 18:19

David- A dual interview with Mrwojo and K1Bond007 came to mind also. Depending on how it's done, it could make a better feature than a featured editor interview. Another pair that came to mind is User:Krator and I think User:UnaLaguna. Those two were our main assessors at WP:VG/A for a long time. I want to say one other helped assess articles with them, but my memory is fuzzy. Maybe Jaco remembers.

Jaco- Absolutely. That would also be helpful if we don't have a feature ready to go.

On a side note, how about maxing the list at 8 or 10? Just so it doesn't get overrun with nominations. Not anticipating that, but better safe that sorry. :-p (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

We might want to lump together some noms with common threads, for example the assessment chaps or the gnomes who keep things running projectwide, the article writers, the grizzled ancients. Something along the lines of [1], video game oriented of course. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 18:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. Gave it a shot below. Not sure how to handle the nominations though. :-\ (Guyinblack25 ^talk 18:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

We handle it in an ad hoc manner, obviously. I'm all up for emailing/pinging the "early members" people, see how responds, and then draft some questions for them to answer (some general they can all answer, and then the harder part would be some specific ones for each). --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 20:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Lists

List the editor along with a reason for interviewing.

Important early members

1. User:Mrwojo- Pretty much got the VG project up and running
2. User:K1Bond007- Driving force behind the project in the first few years since being established
3. Thunderbrand- Driving force behind the early Gaming Collaboration.

Assessors

1. User:Kung Fu Man- Currently very active in assessments.
2. User:Krator- One of the early assessors that kept the Assessment department going.
3. User:UnaLaguna- One of the early assessors that kept the Assessment department going.

Project gnomes

1. User:MrKIA11- Been very active with a lot of back office efforts that have kept the project running smoothly.
2. Guyinblack25- runs the Newsletter

Article writers

1. Gary King- one of the user with the most video game FAs to his credit, and he's done a fair number of FT as well.

[edit] Deleted GAs

Should GAs that are deleted be on the "delisted" list? MrKIA11 (talk) 18:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Why? GamerPro64 (talk) 18:16, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Because we haven't in the past. MrKIA11 (talk) 18:43, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Give me an example since I've been have for only a year. GamerPro64 (talk) 18:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Just to clarify, the life cycle of the article was: created, passed GAN, listed at AfD, and deleted? The situation seems so obscure, I'm kind of at a loss. :-p Was it delisted during the AfD process or before? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 19:03, 9 July 2009 (UTC))

What article? GamerPro64 (talk) 19:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Both Guitar Hero: On Tour & Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades were merged to Guitar Hero: On Tour series back in April. There was only a discussion on the talk page, no AfD. MrKIA11 (talk) 19:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Well crap on a stick... My gut tells me that since it was never "formally" delisted, we don't need to worry about it. However, the talk page for the redirect shows its status as a delisted GA. I guess it wouldn't hurt to list it, maybe with a footnote of some kind. What does everyone else think? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 20:01, 9 July 2009 (UTC))

I suppose so (I mean, if it's been merged, it sure as heck can't be a GA redirect :P) Did we catch Nicole (Dead or Alive)? (It got formally delisted, but it's since been merged.) --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 20:52, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Nicole was listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Newsletter/20090701/Quality content#May. Anything that Article alerts catch, like formal delistings, we normally add it. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Did you know? Problem

Does anyone know what articles were on Did you know? I haven't caught up with it since the Article Alerts was Temporarily down. GamerPro64 (talk) 14:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Check out Wikipedia:Recent additions and Wikipedia:Recent additions 246#31 July 2009. I try to peek at the main page regularly for video game articles. I don't recall seeing any showing up in that section, but I could have easily missed some because of the frequency it's updated. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Third quarter issue

It's about that time again, the "We need a feature and an interview" time. We have David's FA maintenance ready to go, but we need an interview. Any ideas?

David- What do you think about providing some example articles for the points in your feature? I'll help out if you're short on time. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 22:17, 8 September 2009 (UTC))

I have no idea who you wanna interview... kinda burned right now, can't particularly think in a constructive manner... as for my feature, add FAs if you can think of them, but right now I'm having a hard time thinking of how to expressly link to the issues (I didn't write the article with any particular FAs in mind, just generalities over a broad spectrum.) --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 02:23, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll try to get to it this week. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 14:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC))

Had some time today, so I took a crack at it (See Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Newsletter/draft#Feature: Video game FA maintenance). Feel free to tweak, change, remove, etc. any changes I made.

How about User:Gary King for the interview? He pops in and out of the project, but is one of the more active contributors to Good and Featured video game content. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 16:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC))

Sorry for the lack of a response 'till now. I've looked over your feature, it looks good (couldn't have done that myself :P) As for the interview, sure, let's run with Gary. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 20:50, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

There is an RFC at WT:MOS-JA that was brought up directly because of our guideline.陣内_Jinnai 04:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

David- If you have the time, can you contact Gary about an interview and, if he agrees, prepare some questions for him? Let me know if you're short on time.

Jinnai- I'll add a news item to the draft. But because I'm not completely familiar with the discussion, could you expand, copy edit, or whatever it as you see necessary? (Guyinblack25 ^talk 15:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC))

The main isssue is whether romaji is required for every instance of Japanese writing in an article. There is consensus that when the pronuciation is radically different from then it should. The question is where to draw the linke. ie, should キングダムハーツ, (Kingdom Hearts) require the romaji "Kingudamu Hātsu" as it they are both English words and the pronuciation is similar, but not the same. There are other tersiary considerations to this hiragana is sometimes used instead of katakana for stylistic reasons, sometimes originally Japanese words become common in English but not always with the same pronuciation (Anime) and a few English words with kanji, 珈琲 (coffee). There are also other foreign words translated into Japanese from latin alphabets and questions as to whether those should be translated as well.
There is also tersiary issue of whether MOS-JA supercedes our article guidelines.陣内_Jinnai 21:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The RfC tag was removed due to lack of discussion. I think you should still point to it though, just noting that it recently expired (today) as the issues remains really unsolved.陣内_Jinnai 22:56, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Gary got back to me, but unfortunately says he's busy and won't be able to do it this go-around. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 20:20, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Well crap on a stick... How about User:Kung Fu Man? He's been very active in assessments and cleaning up many abysmal character articles. If you have anybody else in mind, you can always surprise us too. :-p (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:21, 25 September 2009 (UTC))

KFM is up for it, I just gotta draft some questions... Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 16:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I posted some questions and Kung Fu Man responded (they are at the bottom of the draft page). If you have any more, post them and let him know. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ^(talk) 21:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Awesome. If I think of anything I'll post it, but they look good to me. Thanks David. (Guyinblack25 ^talk 21:44, 29 September 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Featured Editor

Hey, who's the Featured Editor of this quarter? If we haven't decided yet, I would recommmend PresN. GamerPro64 (talk) 19:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)