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Contents 1 Issue of non-free logos on AN/I 2 There's no article for Radio station! 3 Two questions - construction permits and lists of radio stations in "state" 4 HD Radio Subchannels 5 Call sign swaps 6 Category question

[edit] Issue of non-free logos on AN/I

See: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Wider_issue
User:Black Kite is proposing sanctions on users who restore logo galleries.  єmarsee  • Speak up! 16:15, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

• Don't put words into my mouth please - I am not "proposing" anything, as sanctions are appropriate at the moment, but under-used. I was pointing out that admins need to be far harsher on users who consistently insert or restore large amounts of non-free content without explaining why such content passes all 10 criteria of WP:NFCC (and for that matter, the guidelines at WP:NFC). Black Kite 18:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] There's no article for Radio station!

There's no article for Radio station! Just a redirect to Radio broadcasting, which talks about radio stations without even describing what they are.

You might want to take a look.

Perhaps there needs to be a new article for Radio station, or a section in Radio broadcasting for it.

What are your thoughts on this?

Does anyone here know enough about radio stations to right a good one?

The Transhumanist    23:06, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Two questions - construction permits and lists of radio stations in "state"

Two questions on which I'd like to get some feedback:

1. Is there a general project position on creating articles for planned radio stations — that is, stations that have only to-date been issued construction permits, such as WZME. Category:Future radio stations and programming has 105 constituents, mixed between Canada and the U.S. I'd thought that the general position was that articles should only be created for fully-licensed stations, as the licensing process might never be completed. If that's correct, should we be putting these articles up for deletion? On the other hand, if the articles are fine, I'm happy to track the U.S. ones not yet created on the missing articles list — I just don't want to go to the trouble if it's not necessary.
2. In my travels, I'm noticing that there's inconsistency among the various "List of radio stations in state" pages as to whether or not they are supposed to include low-power FM stations; the language in the lede of some state pages specifically excludes them. Again, just wondering if there's a project position on this — there's no reason for the series of pages not to be consistent and I'm happy to work on making them so, but I need to know which direction to go.

Thanks, Mlaffs (talk) 18:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

To the first one - I'd argue that if a station merely has a CP it likely hasn't done anything yet to make itself notable. There's probably a rare exception.

To the second one - the answer is simple - when I ran the code to generate all the re-worked pages originally, I didn't include LP stations. Since then, it has become apparent that many editors wanted them included and have done so here and there. JPG-GR (talk) 18:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Mlaffs: I think the relevant question for #1 is pretty simple: is it on the air? Stations may operate for years on Program Test Authority, or however long it takes for the FCC to actually issue the license. Some kinds of stations, like directional AMs, may spend more time in this state than others. Beyond that, I'd say to fall back on the GNG: if the existence of the CP gets covered in one or more reliable sources (not counting the regulators' databases), and there is some reliable-source information about future plans for the station, then it's worthy of an article -- particularly if the license is being held up as a result of some controversy. 121a0012 (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] HD Radio Subchannels

Just thinking aloud here, but is there any way we could incorporate HD subchannels into the market templates like digital TV subchannels are included in the TV market boxes? Maybe not every HD channel, but the ones that simulcast an AM or a station that got moved to HD only (ex. WBCN or 99X) User:MrRadioGuy ^{What's that?/What I Do/Feed My Box} 12:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Call sign swaps

I just saw that the articles for KCEE, KVOI, WBNZ, and WOUF say that their call signs swapped. That sounds to me as if Pepsi swapped its brand with Coke. Why on earth (or in aether, as the case may be) would anyone do that? — Sebastian 16:21, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Any number of reasons:

• The station changed branding, but its owner wanted to keep control of the callsign.
• The two stations swapped programming as well.
• The station was sold, and the old owner wanted to keep control of the callsign.
• The station's owner doesn't care what its callsign us, but used it as a pawn in a larger programming change involving other stations.

121a0012 (talk) 03:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! This sounds like article material! — Sebastian 16:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Category question

Is there some reason why we have Category:Radio logos and Category:Radio station logos? They both have radio station logos in them, so could I change those in Category:Radio logos to Category:Radio station logs and have the other category deleted. --kathleen wright5 (talk) 08:05, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

No, both categories are important and serve different areas of interest. That some editors have mis-filed radio station logos in the general radio logos (which covers far more than just broadcast radio stations) is a call for clean-up, not deletion. - Dravecky (talk) 21:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

For example, Category:Radio logos is the only place for the American Family Radio, American Public Media, and Grassroots Radio Coalition logos (just to pick a few obvious ones from the first page). - Dravecky (talk) 22:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)