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Contents 1 Local council election result table 2 Update of project banner 3 Free image of John Stanley (politician) 4 Dispute: Wales Labour Party 5 Cfd 6 Coordinators' working group 7 Article alerts 8 Local chapter for the Wikimedia Foundation 9 MPs' Expenses controversies 9.1 Douglas Hogg's Expenses 10 Request for help 11 Gordon Brown GAR notification 12 Nick Griffin 13 Regional Assemblies in England 14 Stop the War Coalition GA Sweeps: On Hold 15 Crewe and Nantwich by-election, 2008 16 Motion of no confidence votes in the United Kingdom 17 Margaret Moran 18 Expenses scandal 19 More on the expenses scandal 20 Request for comment - Template:Politics of Wales 21 Marginal seats 22 Kevan Jones MP 23 Popular pages 24 Far right in the United Kingdom 25 New list of interest 26 Labour Party (UK) leadership election, 2010 27 Geographical co-ordinates in constituency articles 28 Pageview stats 29 Conservative Party (UK) 30 Conflict of Interest edits from earlier in the year 31 Auto-tagging by Xenobot Mk V 32 Borrowing too much from the US? 33 Labour Party immigration scandal 34 FAR of Liberal Democrats leadership election, 2006 35 Just to let you know 36 Villages, towns, cities, suburbs, areas, hamlets 37 United Kingdom legislation 38 Bot tagging 39 General election, 2010 40 Bounty Board - UK MPs 41 Request for involvement regarding Nigel Farage dispute 42 Request for involvement at MigrationWatch UK 43 2010 election

[edit] Local council election result table

What template would be used for a local election results table? -- ^[User]Jamie JCA_[Talk] 03:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

In the first instance I would suggest using {{Election box}} for individual results or {{Election Summary Begin}} for summary results for the whole council. You can see the summary table in action on European Parliament election, 2009 (United Kingdom) and the individual result table on East Lothian (UK Parliament constituency).

If neither of these suits your needs, reply here again and we can see what alternatives we can find. Road Wizard (talk) 10:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm gonna try and test some templates in my sandbox. It's for a council election (Wirral Council election, 2008) by the way. -- ^[User]Jamie JCA_[Talk] 21:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I've tried some in my sandbox. Can someone take a look if it's okay please? I'm also having a little trouble with the infobox election template, I can't get the following fields to display:

| title = Council majority
| before_election = No overall control
| before_colour = 808080
| after_election = No overall control
| after_colour = 808080

Also, the party colours won't display. -- ^[User]Jamie JCA_[Talk] 20:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I have fixed part of the problem with the infobox, but I am not sure if it can handle a "No overall control" situation. I am also unsure why some of the colours are not appearing. I will do some further research. Road Wizard (talk) 21:14, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Update of project banner

I have updated our project banner, {{WP UK Politics}}, so that it now runs off the generic {{WPBannerMeta}} template. It has allowed a significant simplification of our banner code, so another editor can make updates more easily if I drop off the radar for any reason. It has also allowed me to implement some useful new features:

• A checklist for assessing whether an article meets B-class will appear when any article is assessed as either C-class or B-class. Individual items can be marked as meeting or failing the criteria with a simple yes or no.
• Articles needing urgent attention can be flagged with |attention=yes, which will add them to Category:Politics of the United Kingdom articles needing attention
• Articles needing an infobox can be flagged with |needs-infobox=yes, which will add them to Category:Politics of the United Kingdom articles needing infoboxes.
• Articles needing an image can be flagged with |needs-picture=yes, which will add them to Category:Politics of the United Kingdom articles needing images.
• Biography articles needing persondata can be flagged with |needs-persondata=yes, which will add them to Category:Politics of the United Kingdom articles needing persondata.

There is also an option for including our to-do list within the banner, which I am currently considering implementing. Are there any comments or objections to these changes? Road Wizard (talk) 00:03, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Free image of John Stanley (politician)

Hi everybody, anybody know where/how I can get a "free" image of current MP John Stanley to use on Wikipedia? Ryan4314 (talk) 03:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry. I have taken a quick look round the web but I can only find copyrighted images of him. The availability of free images is a serious problem for UK political biographies as we only have images for a minority of MP articles.

I am considering writing an email to the larger political parties to see if they are willing to release any images of their members under a free-use licence. I suspect that some party members will be more supportive of Wikipedia than others but we may be able to convince them to release a few images under a licence that we can use. The benefit to them is that any image they select is likely to be of higher quality than the amateur photos we usually have to deal with, so in many cases their choice of photo will be the one we use. Road Wizard (talk) 04:45, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I checked the US Gov sites n all (just in case he visited), but no luck either. I think that would be a good idea, it would certainly be more advantageous to them instead of having an amateur image snapped on a phone. Ryan4314 (talk) 04:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dispute: Wales Labour Party

I have stuck a dispute tag on the article Wales Labour Party. The reason is quite simple - where is there one reference where this party is called the Wales labour Party? It's official name is Llafur Cymru, translates at Welsh Labour which is what it is referred to in all literature. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 05:51, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I have found a BBC article from February 2000 which refers to it solely as "Wales Labour" but a web archive of the party's website from April 2005 contains both "Wales Labour" and "Welsh Labour". Could this be a case of the party being rebranded over a period of time? Pre-2000 it may have been referred to as "Wales Labour" but in 2008 it is more commonly referred to as "Welsh Labour"? This is all a bit of speculation on my part as I can't say I have too much knowledge of the subdivisions of the Labour party. Road Wizard (talk) 06:23, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

A google search of the Welsh Labour website throws up a few current pages that refer to the "Wales Labour Party", but these form a tiny fraction of the website and could be indicative of a name that is now in less common use than in the past. Road Wizard (talk) 06:33, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cfd

There is a cfd relating to UK MPs - UK MPs re-revisited. Occuli (talk) 10:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinators' working group

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 06:19, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Article alerts

This is a notice to let you know about Article alerts, a fully-automated subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering Articles for deletion, Requests for comment, Peer review and other workflows (full list). The reports are updated on a daily basis, and provide brief summaries of what happened, with relevant links to discussion or results when possible. A certain degree of customization is available; WikiProjects and Taskforces can choose which workflows to include, have individual reports generated for each workflow, have deletion discussion transcluded on the reports, and so on. An example of a customized report can be found here.

If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the display=none parameter, but forget to give a link to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Wikipedia:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts.

Message sent by User:Addbot to all active wiki projects per request, Comments on the message and bot are welcome here.

Thanks. — Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 09:34, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Need any help in setting this up or do you simply do not want the Alerts?Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 01:35, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out, it sounds very useful. I was on an extended wikibreak the first time you posted here and so no one got round to implementing it. I have now followed the instructions and everything should be working. Thanks again for your offer of help. Road Wizard (talk) 20:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Local chapter for the Wikimedia Foundation

We are Wikimedia UK - the group of local Wikimedians helping the Foundation to "create a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge". Love Wikipedia? Based in the UK? Can you support us in projects such as generating free-content photographs, freeing up archive material and media relations? Or are there other projects you'd like us to help with? if so, please click here to Join up, Donate and Get Involved

AndrewRT(Talk) 21:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] MPs' Expenses controversies

Hello people. I've just created this page, and could do with some help for what is quite a wide ranging but (I think) worthwhile article. Please pop your head in and improve it if you can. Thanks. Quantpole (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Douglas Hogg's Expenses

I disagree with User:Rwendland (talk | Contribs) removal of the table showing Douglas Hogg's total expenses claimed in respect of his parliamentary duties, as it does put the disputed amounts into context, and have created an entry on the talk page where this can be discussed. Please let me have your views. — GrahamSmith (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC).

I am seeking information mediation on how to present the controversial Additional Costs Allowance within the context of Douglas Hogg's total expenses . — GrahamSmith (talk) 05:50, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request for help

Folks, would someone take a look at Surrey Council election, 2009, Guildford - it need some title, formatting and content help. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 19:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

And Surrey Council election, 2005, Guildford. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 21:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gordon Brown GAR notification

Gordon Brown has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:04, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nick Griffin

There has been something of an overhaul to this article of late, by User:Parrot of Doom. However, there are a few outstanding issues that have resulted in some edit shuffles in the last 24-48 hours. Could a member or two of this project pop over a take a look? This could be one of your next WP:GAs. :) --Jza84 |  Talk  19:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Regional Assemblies in England

I noticed that the page on the South West Regional Assembly needed updating following its winding-up and transfer of powers to South West Councils, so I've attempted a quick'n'dirty update. Is there a consistent approach being adopted across the board to the pages on regional assemblies? Should there be? Just a quick heads-up really - I certainly don't intend to update them all myself! Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:37, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Stop the War Coalition GA Sweeps: On Hold

I have reviewed Stop the War Coalition for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since the article falls under the scope of this project, I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Crewe and Nantwich by-election, 2008

The figures on this page don't add up. The total of votes cast is given as 41856, which matches [1], but adding up the totals of the individual candidates gives 41498. Even the figure of 67 spoilt ballots on the Borough's web page doesn't make up the shortfall. Does anyone have any better figures? — sjorford++ 17:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Those figures may be right. As a candidate of many years standing, it's a shocking but true fact that the figures given out by the returning officer are the final figures regardless of how many votes were counted!! I would take the true figures to be those on the council's website, unless there's a YouTube video of the declaration (and such things do exist for other seats, would you believe....) doktorb _words^deeds 17:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

So, should we keep the individual vote counts to be right, and fix the total turnout figure accordingly? I note that the % figures in our article have apparently been calculated against 41498, but those on the council's website seem to have been calculated against their declared total of 41856. (Of course, there is no such thing as "official" percentages, you make of them what you will.) Holy baloney, what a travesty. This is a parliamentary election, for Zarquon's sake!

Also, there's a discrepancy on Glasgow East by-election, 2008, but there the shortfall of 45 matches the number of rejected ballots according to [2]. In this case, I think we should either be adjusting the total by subtracting the rejected ballots, or showing the number of rejections in the table - having a table that doesn't add up is no good. — sjorford++ 17:47, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, the out of date way our elections are run is quite the dissertation :) Wiki should always match the source, unless multiple sources contradict each other obviously, so I'd check with the BBC then run with what they have, OR have you tried the vote-2007.co.uk website? They have a by-elections forum you could ask at?doktorb _words^deeds 18:00, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Motion of no confidence votes in the United Kingdom

Does anyone know where I could find a list of successful no confidence motions for Motion of no confidence votes in the United Kingdom? My knowledge of 19th century political history has been found lacking 12:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

This doesn't go back to the 19th century, but try this pdf lists all confidence motions since 1945 and government defeats since 1895 (found with this search). If there's nothing else on parliament.uk, you could try making a Freedom of Information request. --h2g2bob (talk) 19:03, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Margaret Moran

Hello - would anyone like to update the assessment and suggest improvements to the Margaret Moran article? I've been making some fairly major changes (here's an older version if you want to see what I removed/added). --18:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Expenses scandal

-- copied from my talk page--
Hi, an article that has been written has been vandalised and I have tried to delete the vandalism, but your bot (and I dont quite understand how they work) is being used to reverse the edits that are trying to take the article back to the original. IE someone is subscribing ( if that is the phrase) to your bot so that my corrections back to the original are seen as vandalism. How do I stop that? IE your bot is creating the vandalism and my corrections are seen as vandalism. I am not sure that this what your bot was set up to do. I am sure you are asking who is the vandal and who is the corrector? Given the vandal will read this i can provide details of the article by secure email if required. What do I do? Many thanks Goalcatcher (talk) 16:54, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Just give me the name of the article. The chances are that there is something in the WP Manual of Style you are unaware of, but it could be that the bot is making a mistake. Rich Farmbrough, 18:40, 14 July 2009 (UTC).

Hi, the article is 'AnneMain', there are political opponents that are vandalising various MPs sites by placing political statements on them in the light of the expenses issues in the UK. You will see how your bot is being used. thanks

Anne Main I guess. Rich Farmbrough, 19:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC).

OK nothing to do with the bot some IP removed the stuff. Rich Farmbrough, 01:58, 15 July 2009 (UTC).

Hi Rich, I must have been ambiguos. There are political activists putting political statements on many MPs wikis regarding the expenses - so instead of a factual entry regarding the MP and their position it becomes a political noticeboard whihc is not what Wike is about., you ironically replaced what was required to be removed. :-) So the IP that has just removed what you put back (at c. 9:05 am UK time) is valid. You will see on many other UK MPs the same issues, people are just making political capital of these expense issues. I hope that I have explained correctly.The reason i contacted you was that one of the edits stated in the history was Smartbot and I just thought it must be one of these activists using your bot to automatically replace their vandalism when someone removed their vandalism. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goalcatcher (talk • contribs) 08:13, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, you were ambiguous, you didn't state which was the "right version"! The expenses scandal is noteworthy, being a significant step in the process of changing the financial accountability of UK MPs. To remove well sourced information seems like using WP to push your own political viewpoint. The articles should remain factaul, NPPOV and well sourced. If there is a problem then I suggest discussing it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom. Rich Farmbrough, 08:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC).

-- copied from my talk page ends-- Rich Farmbrough, 08:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC).

[edit] More on the expenses scandal

I have just blocked, for a second time, the user User:Mpsheff for removal of material from the article Angela Christine Smith. On review of the article I felt that perhaps there was undue weight being placed on this MP's expenses claims so I have edited the article in an attempt to attain a more NPOV. I would be grateful if an editor with more expertise in this area would review the article. Thanks, —Jeremy (talk) 14:22, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment - Template:Politics of Wales

We'd be grateful for any comments on the most suitable image to depict Welsh politics & government on this template. Please comment at Template talk:Politics of Wales. Thanks for your help. Pondle (talk) 13:25, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Marginal seats

I think it would be great to improve the articles on MPs standing for marginal seats at the next election, before the next election. I've listed them at User:H2g2bob/UK Marginal Seats. I think we could probably improve them all to C-Class by then. --h2g2bob (talk) 20:01, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Kevan Jones MP

This article seems to be at risk of POV editing and censoring at the moment. He is currently involved in a fairly major controversy - the alleged attempt to smear General Richard Dannat - and i was rather surprised when i had a look at his article for the first time this morning and so absolutely no mention of this. However the fact that the page had been given semi-protected status led me to check the edit history and sure enough previous edits had been made, and referenced, with regard to the story this has become but promptly reverted as can be seen here and here. Now i realise we are supposed to assume 'good faith' on wikipedia but it's hard for me to look at these immediate reverts aimed at deleting any mention of what has become a considerable news story, with references to it in major media outlets, without immediately assuming that some fairly blatant political POVing is going on here. I've reinserted the passage dealing with the scandal and added a few more references to it. siarach (talk) 10:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi - it looks ok now, but I'll keep an eye on it. --h2g2bob (talk) 21:58, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Popular pages

Hello all, I'm making a request for a page containing the most viewed UK Politics articles, updated automatically by User:Mr.Z-bot. This should appear at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/Popular pages at some point. It'll be interesting to see what we should be concentrating on. --h2g2bob (talk) 16:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Ahem, I meant Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/Popular pages, of course. Should be created next time the Mr.Z's script is run, which will be within the next month or so. --h2g2bob (talk) 01:53, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Also (unrelatedly), the expenses section of Mark Lazarowicz keeps getting deleted, despite having references. More eyeballs on that is good. --h2g2bob (talk) 01:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, another attempt at whitewashing yesterday by yet another IP editor Little grape (talk) 09:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Far right in the United Kingdom

Have I missed it, or has there been no discussion of the actions by User:Yorkshirian to move Far right in the United Kingdom to Radical nationalism in the United Kingdom, and Template:UK far right to Template:Radical nationalism in the UK? What are people's views on these moves? Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I think "radical nationalism" may be a more accurate term for it. Most sources say "far right", and we normally stick to the most commonly used terms. --h2g2bob (talk) 02:07, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] New list of interest

I have created Her Majesty's Government frontbench modelled on Official Opposition frontbench. Please edit mercilessly. -Rrius (talk) 23:45, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. --h2g2bob (talk) 02:01, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Labour Party (UK) leadership election, 2010

I've nominated Labour Party (UK) leadership election, 2010 for AfD. The discussion page is Here.Nigel Ish (talk) 20:33, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Geographical co-ordinates in constituency articles

I am concerned that the application of geographical co-ordinates (or of {{coord missing}} tags) to articles on parliamentary constituencies may be misleading to readers. There seems to be a lot of this underway at the moment. I have opened a centralised discussion on this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject_Geographical_coordinates#Use_of_co-ordinates_in_parliamentary_constituencies, and would welcome further input.

Thanks! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:21, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Pageview stats

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 00:30, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

That's interesting stuff - thanks --h2g2bob (talk) 21:17, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

A very useful resource, thank you. I can see some interesting uses for it once we have more of our articles tagged, such as a task to get all stubs in the top 500 articles to Start class or all articles in the top 10 to GA.

I have created a new sub-page, WP:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/Top 25 articles, to keep track of the top 25 popular pages each month. Road Wizard (talk) 23:57, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Conservative Party (UK)

Come on WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom, the Conservative Party (UK) page is pretty poor! I'm suprised that this project isn't all over the article. There are citation requests in the lead. --Jza84 |  Talk  10:59, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Conflict of Interest edits from earlier in the year

Here's some analysis I did earlier this year, showing expenses being removed from MPs articles using computers in the Houses of Parliament: http://dbatley.com/mpexpenses/ --h2g2bob (talk) 22:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Auto-tagging by Xenobot Mk V

I am planning to request a sweep of Xenobot Mk V to add our project banner to some articles within our scope. We have a lot of untagged articles right now but I thought I would start off with just the UK MPs since 1801 (specific categories listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/Categories). We currently have 1,772 articles tagged and as a guess I would say we will be adding an extra 5 or 6 thousand from this one sweep. If successful we can look at expanding the category list for a second sweep later. Are there any objections? Road Wizard (talk) 22:51, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I went to make a request for the bot but it seems that "The category list should be exhaustive", so I will need to set up a full category list before it starts. Road Wizard (talk) 19:43, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I have finally finished the list with 1,791 categories set for auto-tagging and 41 categories for manual tagging. I think I probably missed a few spots in the category structure, but this should fill out the majority of our scope. Are there any objections before I make a request for the auto-tagging? Road Wizard (talk) 00:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow, that's quite a list! I can't see any obvious omissions. --h2g2bob (talk) 09:18, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

I added some newly created categories and stumbled across a branch of election categories I missed. Auto list has now increased to 1,988. Road Wizard (talk) 23:12, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Added Civil parishes in England --h2g2bob (talk) 17:57, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

It looks like the bot has started.[3] Road Wizard (talk) 21:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Yep, I'm getting 'er going now. Just FYI your estimate of "an extra 5 or 6 thousand" probably needs incremented to close to "an extra 25,000+" =) –xeno^talk 22:12, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

→That is an awfully big number. O_o
My initial estimate was based on just a sweep of Member of Parliament articles, so I was expecting a few more for the project as a whole. I was keeping track of rough figures when I started expanding the category list, but I lost track somewhere around 10 thousand. Thanks for your help with this. Road Wizard (talk) 22:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• Y Task complete. 24,315 edits. 2,158 edits to cats,files,templates; 8,128 (3128 +5000) articles were tagged as "stub" because they had a {{stub}} template; 14,029 (4029 +5000 +5000) tags were placed that may have inherited a class from other projects. Please note in the final sweep, 18 articles were identified that were de-tagged after Xenobot tagged them - but they remain in an applicable auto-tag cat. To prevent these from getting picked up next time this bot does tagging for the project, a deny statement should be added to the talk page ({{bots|deny=Xenobot Mk V}}), the category should be removed from the article if erroneous, or the category should be moved to manual tag. –xeno^talk 17:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Borrowing too much from the US?

Editors have understandably had to improvise in dealing with the commencement of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom. I rather it has gone a bit far with the template used at justices' articles. The template {{Start United Kingdom Supreme Court composition}} and its relatives are obviously drawn from the equivalent US template. The problem is that the one I linked to above causes "The Phillips Court" to appear. It has long been the tradition in the US to describe an era by the Chief Justice who presided over it. As such there was a "Warren Court", a "Burger Court", and "Rehnquist Court" before the current "Roberts Court". It may be that a similar usage will develop in the UK, but it seems to me that Wikipedia should not be on the leading edge of that trend. There are a number of ways of dealing with the problem, but I think simply getting rid of that "The X Court" title would be the simplest. If a change is made, it might make sense to add a second line below where it says "President: Lord Phillips of Worth Matravers" that says "Deputy President: Lord Hope of Craighead" because that is a statutory role in its own right. -Rrius (talk) 10:45, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Labour Party immigration scandal

I'd be grateful for comment on the notability and neutrality of this recent article. Thanks,--Pondle (talk) 23:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks like it's all base on one former Labour employee, with many references to newspapers covering the same story, plus some comment pieces thrown in. And I don't quite see how that "second related immigration scandal" is actually related. --h2g2bob (talk) 01:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FAR of Liberal Democrats leadership election, 2006

I have nominated Liberal Democrats leadership election, 2006 for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. HonouraryMix (talk) 14:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Just to let you know

Someone implemented the book-class for your project. However you currently don't have any books. So, assuming you feel like writing some, here's a small guide.

The first step (well there are different ways) is to enable the "book creator" (click "Create a book" on the print/export toolbox on the left). You'll have a banner-like thing at the top of the page. If you don't feel like creating a book page by page, go to a category like Category:Speakers of the House of Commons of Great Britain, and then click on "Add this category to your book".

After that's done, you can click "show book", and arrange articles into chapters, remove irrelevant one, and so one. If some article is missing, then just go to that article and add it ("Add this page to your book"). Once you're happy with your book, save it (Wikipedia:Books/...), tag it with your project's banner, and you're pretty much done.

See Help:Books for more details (and on how to create books manually). If you have any questions, just ask me and I'll help you as best I can. Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 06:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Villages, towns, cities, suburbs, areas, hamlets

Do all inhabited areas really fall under the scope of this project or should this project be more specific? Simply south (talk) 10:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

These articles should be more relevant to WP UK Geography, unless there is a particular local government angle.--Pondle (talk) 10:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree with that in principle. It should be left to other WikiProjects unless there is specific coverage of Politics or Government. As this project covers those subjects we would be interested in ensuring that the articles handle them properly. There is no harm in having more than one WikiProject looking after an article and it may in fact be more beneficial.

Some town/village articles are possibly being tagged by the bot run at the moment as they are in a "Local government of..." or "Politics of..." category. If they genuinely deserve to be in those categories then they are probably within our scope. Road Wizard (talk) 11:16, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] United Kingdom legislation

I've had a look at the links in {{UK legislation}}, and I've found them rather inconsistent. Here follow the lists:

• Parliament of England
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the English Parliament to 1601
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the English Parliament, 1603 to 1641
  • List of Ordinances and Acts of the Parliament of England, 1642 to 1660
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the English Parliament, 1660 to 1699
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the English Parliament, 1700 to 1706
• Parliament of Scotland
  • List of Acts of the Scottish Parliament to 1707
• Parliament of Ireland
  • List of Acts of the Parliament of Ireland to 1700
  • List of Acts of the Parliament of Ireland, 1701 to 1800
• Parliament of Great Britain
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the Great Britain Parliament, 1707-1719
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the Great Britain Parliament, 1720-1739
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the Great Britain Parliament, 1740-1759
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the Great Britain Parliament, 1760-1779
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the Great Britain Parliament, 1780-1800
• Parliament of the United Kingdom
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1801-1819
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1820-1839
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1840-1859
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1860-1879
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1880-1899
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1900-1919
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1920-1939
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1940-1959
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1960-1979
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1980-1999
  • List of Acts of Parliament of the United Kingdom Parliament, 2000-Present
• Devolved
  • List of Acts of the Northern Ireland Assembly
  • List of Acts of the Northern Ireland Parliament
  • List of Acts of the Scottish Parliament from 1999
  • List of Measures of the National Assembly for Wales

Apart from the inconsistency in the years (both to and hyphens are used), there is redundancy in most of the titles, where Parliament is repeated. If it is appropriate to use the form "Acts of the x Parliament" (as in the third link, for the Interregnum), and I think it is (note that "Acts of the Scottish Parliament" is official), we can remove this redundancy. Which leaves us with one last inconsistency: between English/Scottish/Irish/etc. Parliament and Parliament of England/Scotland/Ireland/etc. With the exception of the modern devolved parliaments, I am not aware of any specific rules that must be followed in each case; I understand that the latter form is the official but the former is perhaps more convenient. Here follow the two proposed sets:

Parliament of England List of Acts of the English Parliament to 1601 List of Acts of the English Parliament, 1603–1641 List of Ordinances and Acts of the English Parliament, 1642–1660 List of Acts of the English Parliament, 1660–1699 List of Acts of the English Parliament, 1700–1706 Parliament of Scotland List of Acts of the Scottish Parliament to 1707 Parliament of Ireland List of Acts of the Irish Parliament to 1700 List of Acts of the Irish Parliament, 1701–1800 Parliament of Great Britain List of Acts of the Great Britain Parliament, 1707–1719 List of Acts of the Great Britain Parliament, 1720–1739 List of Acts of the Great Britain Parliament, 1740–1759 List of Acts of the Great Britain Parliament, 1760–1779 List of Acts of the Great Britain Parliament, 1780–1800 Parliament of the United Kingdom List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1801–1819 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1820–1839 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1840–1859 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1860–1879 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1880–1899 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1900–1919 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1920–1939 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1940–1959 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1960–1979 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 1980–1999 List of Acts of the United Kingdom Parliament, 2000–present Devolved List of Acts of the Northern Ireland Assembly List of Acts of the Northern Ireland Parliament List of Acts of the Scottish Parliament from 1999 List of Measures of the National Assembly for Wales

Parliament of England List of Acts of the Parliament of England to 1601 List of Acts of the Parliament of England, 1603–1641 List of Ordinances and Acts of the Parliament of England, 1642–1660 List of Acts of the Parliament of England, 1660–1699 List of Acts of the Parliament of England, 1700–1706 Parliament of Scotland List of Acts of the Parliament of Scotland to 1707 Parliament of Ireland List of Acts of the Parliament of Ireland to 1700 List of Acts of the Parliament of Ireland, 1701–1800 Parliament of Great Britain List of Acts of the Parliament of Great Britain, 1707–1719 List of Acts of the Parliament of Great Britain, 1720–1739 List of Acts of the Parliament of Great Britain, 1740–1759 List of Acts of the Parliament of Great Britain, 1760–1779 List of Acts of the Parliament of Great Britain, 1780–1800 Parliament of the United Kingdom List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1801–1819 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1820–1839 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1840–1859 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1860–1879 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1880–1899 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1900–1919 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1920–1939 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1940–1959 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1960–1979 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 1980–1999 List of Acts of the Parliament of the United Kingdom, 2000–present Devolved List of Acts of the Northern Ireland Assembly List of Acts of the Parliament of Northern Ireland List of Acts of the Scottish Parliament from 1999 List of Measures of the National Assembly for Wales

(One could also argue for the replacement of the remaining to [year] with until [year] or pre-[year], or for the removal of the year for the two Scottish lists in case they end up with different titles, but these are minor concerns.)

I prefer the second form (right column), but others may disagree. I am also not entirely sure that this is the right venue and not, say, Requested moves. Please comment. Waltham, The Duke of 23:46, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

It may be beneficial to add a note on the template talk page that this discussion is occurring here. I think far more people will be watching that template than are watching this project page at the moment. Road Wizard (talk) 15:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the suggestion. Implemented eight minutes ago. Waltham, The Duke of 05:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

It didn't work, after all. In the lack of dissent, and reluctant to expend the time and resources necessary for the notification of each page's talk page in order to seek wider input, I have proceeded with the moves outlined in my plan, created the appropriate redirects from the hyphenated to the dashed versions of the titles where applicable, and updated the template in question. Waltham, The Duke of 17:31, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bot tagging

A bot just tagged Arthur Sifton as being within this wikiproject. It is of course this project's business what articles it wishes to include in its scope, but from reading Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/scope I cannot fathom why Sifton should be included. Just wanted to give you the heads up in case there was something amiss. Steve Smith (talk) 00:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the report. He appears to have been included as he is in Category:Members of the Privy Council of the United Kingdom. Membership of the council was often extended to senior officials in the British Empire and later the Commonwealth. The extent of involvement of the privy council members in UK politics varied but was often treated as an honorary position. The Arthur Sifton article doesn't seem to mention any direct involvement in UK politics so I will remove the banner.

I will ask the bot owner to remove the privy council category from the auto-tagging run. If you spot any other errors please report them here or at User talk:Xenobot Mk V. Regards. Road Wizard (talk) 01:16, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Makes sense (I probably should have figured this out myself, actually). I figured you were just trying to leach off of WP:ALBERTA's FAs. Cheers, Steve Smith (talk) 01:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

The bot also tagged Celtic nations. It may surprise you to know that Brittany, the Isle of Man, Ireland, Asturias and Galicia are not part of the UK (anymore/yet) - I reverted the tag, although project members are, of course, welcome to make improvements to the article. Also, I would be interested to know how the project intends to improve the other articles recently tagged. Yours, Daicaregos (talk) 17:10, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

→Thanks for the report. Celtic nations was included as it appears to be in Category:Home Rule in the United Kingdom. I have had a quick skim through the article and I can't see anything that stands out as relating to Home rule. Should the category be removed from the article?
For your second point, this WikiProject intends to improve articles in similar ways to what other WikiProjects do.

1. This talk page will be a central hub to bring issues and concerns relating to articles in our scope.
2. We will assess articles with the aim of doing our part towards universal assessment of Wikipedia articles.
3. We will monitor articles through the automated article alert system, which will allow participants to keep up to speed on issues they are interested in.
4. We will receive monthly updates on our popular pages, which will hopefully allow us to prioritise the articles we need to improve.
5. Depending on the level of involvement from other participants we could also start article improvement drives, A-class assessments and the various other functions carried out by the best quality projects.

The last one is aspirational and will depend on the level of interest in this project. The first 4 are already in operation and are probably worth the effort of tagging on their own. Road Wizard (talk) 20:59, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Celtic nations' inclusion in Category:Home Rule in the United Kingdom may also have been aspirational :) The article doesn't really relate to political ideals, though. That would be more like the '... nationalism' series, but please, don't include Brittany, the Isle of Man, etc. Yours, Daicaregos (talk) 21:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

You may wish to reconsider including Cornish language too. Daicaregos (talk) 21:28, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Feel free to untag anything the bot tagged that is clearly out-of-scope; but either move the offending category to "Manual tag" or add this to the page: {{bots|deny=Xenobot Mk V}}. –xeno^talk 21:31, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I have taken a leap and removed the Home Rule category from the Celtic nations article. The Cornish language article appears to be in Category:Cornish nationalism and makes reference to government recognition of the language, a question in the UK Parliament, government funding and comparisons of the level of funding between minority languages within the UK. I think this one definitely qualifies as being within our scope. Road Wizard (talk) 21:42, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

The scope of this project appears to be limitless: anything which may have been discussed in parliament; anything recognised by the government; anything receiving government funds. Looks like you're gonna be busy. But may I also suggest: biogs of anyone paying taxes to the government? Daicaregos (talk) 21:51, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I am trying to be generous and assume that you are attempting to be helpful, but I can't help but read a slight undertone in some of your comments here. Maybe it is just me. In any case, if you spot any other articles that you feel are mistagged feel free to report them here or at User talk:Xenobot Mk V and I will investigate. Road Wizard (talk) 22:06, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't agree that an article about a language should be within the scope of a politics project. As has been shown, it would be simple to make a case to include virtually anything in the UK, by virtue of having some connection to government. The tag on this article should be reconsidered. In a slight change of subject - the tag placed on Cornish self-government movement is on a redirect page. Best, Daicaregos (talk) 22:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for highlighting the new error. I will point that one out to Xeno as I don't think it is intended for the bot to even try posting on redirects.

At the moment I am primarily focussed on trying to shape the larger scope of the project around the big hurdles of Empire, Commonwealth and independence. Obvious cases of mis-tagging can be resolved straight away, but where issues are on the borders of the project scope it may be worth keeping them on one side until after the auto-tagging task is complete. I have started a list at User:Road Wizard/Sandbox 3 and you are welcome to add any other articles there that you have concerns with.

Would that be an acceptable compromise? Road Wizard (talk) 23:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Good idea. Daicaregos (talk) 23:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] General election, 2010

It's very likely the Next United Kingdom general election page will be moved to United Kingdom general election, 2010 soon (as a 2009 election is no longer possible). This will probably need some changes to articles mentioning the "next election". Discussion about move is on the talk page. --h2g2bob (talk) 23:41, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bounty Board - UK MPs

Some pages in this WikiProject are listed on the bounty board A Wikipedian has pledged to make a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation if the article of any currently serving MP or member of the House of Lords is improved to good article status before parliament is dissolved for the next election. See this bounty's entry on the bounty board for details.

Anyone interested in nominating an article for us to focus on and secure a donation? Road Wizard (talk) 02:49, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

How about Claire Ward? Former whip and junior minister in a genuine three-way marginal. Watford Football Club is being bankrolled by a prominent Conservative, while local government is predominantly Lib Dem, so there is a very good chance that she will not be an MP after the election (a good reason to work on it now). A bit short at the moment but personal life (often the hard bit) is reasonably well developed. I'd be keen to help out, but having never really worked on a biography before I'm also interested with working alongside someone with experience in that area. WFCforLife (talk) 03:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a good choice. The article seems to be at start-class right now so there is a reasonable chance that we can push it up to GA in a short space of time. I will take a look and see what we need to work on when I get back from work. Road Wizard (talk) 08:02, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request for involvement regarding Nigel Farage dispute

Talk:Nigel Farage#Dispute over "Former Leader of UKIP"

There's something of a dispute about whether to say that Nigel Farage is the former leader of UKIP in the infobox itself. All is explained at the relevant link. Any involvement would be greatly appreciated. Cheers. HonouraryMix (talk) 00:40, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request for involvement at MigrationWatch UK

Three single-purpose accounts have been making numerous comments at Talk:MigrationWatch UK about the reliability of sources used for the article and suggesting material that is critical of the organisation be removed. I'd appreciate the views of others on this. The comments start under this heading and continue to the bottom of the page. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:52, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes it does look like there is some unorthodox editing going on there. Are there any issues that you would like me to comment on? There have been a large number of comments and I don't want to jump into issues that have already been resolved. Road Wizard (talk) 20:53, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps a general comment on the reliability of the sources used? I'm suspicious that the editors (if they are actually different people) might work for or at least be avid supporters of MWUK, given that their homepage now states "This site was selected for preservation by The British Library and is archived regularly", something which one of the editors was very keen to include in the Wikipedia article a while back, and that they insist on everything in the article relying on the MWUK website for sources. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

More generally, I'd just like more editors to contribute to discussions on that talk page. At the moment I feel as if it's only me replying to posts there and I don't want to risk ownership of the article, plus second opinions are always good. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:42, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 2010 election

I've started a todo list of things to fix when the election is done at Wikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom/2010 election. Just boring things like changing Category:UK MPs 2005- to Category:UK MPs 2005-2010, updating templates, etc. Please update/edit/add comments as you see fit. --h2g2bob (talk) 23:31, 31 December 2009 (UTC)