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[edit] FAR

I have nominated Sly & the Family Stone for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 23:50, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Diamond Kuts

Unprodded article, is this worth keeping? Tim Vickers (talk) 03:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] GA reassessment of Alec Empire

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Alec Empire/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:04, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] GA reassessment of Fall Out Boy

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns which you can see at Talk:Fall Out Boy/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:53, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Certifications"

A number of discographies including Radiohead, Arctic Monkeys and Editors have a column in their "Studio albums" section titled "Certifications". In this, there are sources used to classify an album's sales based on music recording sales certifications, and sources are usually used from the BPI or IRMA.

When attempting to open sources from the BPI, I am met with a page titled "Permission Required", simply saying:

Content not found
The article, file or other resource you are looking for can't be found. You can try searching for the material using the search tool.
If you believe this to be a website error then please contact us and we'll have it looked into right away.

I firstly tried using the mentioned "search tool" for an artist I wished to find out about, which brought up no results. Upon being given a "contact us" link, I decided I would bring up my issue here first. I have a number of questions:

• What permission do I need to view this information?
• Does the use of these permitted sites as sources not break a verifiability condition, specified in WP:SOURCEACCESS?
• If this website is being used to source this information, who is sourcing it?

I decided the musicians project would be the most obvious place to ask, as the answers could benefit others. --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 01:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

It looks like the bpi website did some restructuring, so all the old urls don't work anymore. I've also seen this recently with the billboard.com citations, where the site designers have successfully killed all the direct links to their site. With a quick Google search for "site:bpi.co.uk certification", I found the new certification search page. All the information (say, from the Radiohead discography) can be found easily, though it doesn't seem to allow direct links anymore, as every search is still on the same "search.aspx" page. —Akrabbim^talk 02:58, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I found this not long after I left the earlier comment, I wonder, does this mean these can still be used as sources? --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 05:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the BPI can still be used as a source using the new search page as long as instructions are given to the reader about how to verify the information. I usually put a note at the end of the reference such as "<ref>correctly formatted reference here Note: User needs to enter "xxx" in "yyy" and click search.</ref>" or words to that affect. --JD554 (talk) 07:55, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll take that on board for when using that as a source. Thanks! --^{SteelersFanUK06} ReplyOnMine! 13:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sofia Rotaru and related articles

The article is in need of attention as it is currently dominated by a raving fan of the singer. It currently features unencyclopaedic content like paragraphs on her impersonators and fans. It also features fantastic claims like "Rotaru earned $100 million in 2007" and "Rotaru was a rapper in the 1970s". The related pages Dusha and Mashina Vremeni include claims on the film Dusha gathering 57 million viewers which is based on the statement of the director of the film who has later admitted spreading rumours of the same kind. The fan also pushes content on Rotaru to the Music of Russia article whereas Rotaru has never considered herself of Russian nationality. It would be nice if anyone could bother to take a look at what is going on at these pages. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 12:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thomas Pridgen and the Mars Volta

There has been an edit war at the article for The Mars Volta. The issue is whether drummer Thomas Pridgen has left the group. Based on discussion on Mars Volta forums there has been some kind of dispute, but so far there has been nothing official or even in the news about Pridgen not being in the group. IP addresses and new accounts have been changing the article to make Pridgen a former member without putting comments in their changes or including documentation. I don't really care if he is in the group or not but feel that such changes of fact require proof of some sort, which has not been forthcoming. Any advice? --Beirne (talk) 04:15, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind, it's settled. --Beirne (talk) 20:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "Other Songs" sections in Navbox Musical artist

I have a question about the Navbox Musical artist template. Most of them list released albums and singles, but is there any established consensus towards including an "Other songs" section to these navboxes? This section would be for songs which aren't singles. any thoughts? riffic (talk) 07:51, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

The navbox exists to point to articles. If a song was not issued as a single, it usually isn't notable enough to have an article. I have seen a few cases where navboxes are used to make lists which are not links, but that is improper usage; it's a navigation box to help the reader navigate to other articles. Navbox formatting is very flexible; it doesn't have fixed parameters for "songs", etc. So if you have an exceptional case where an artist has articles for songs that are not singles, you can link to them from the navbox without a need to modify the template. No consensus is needed at a project level for unusual circumstances. If you make the change and it's contested at the article's talk page, it can be discussed there. If you would like an opinion on a particular navbox and articles you want it to point to, let us know. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 16:13, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

yeah, I'm looking for an opinion on a particular usage, but I was also looking to see if this was condoned on a general basis or not. please see Template talk:Lady Gaga for more info. Basically, my argument is from a categorization standpoint, having a section labeled "Other songs" is unmanageable. It creates an arbitrary list without any criteria for inclusion. riffic (talk) 16:31, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied over there. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 17:44, 5 December 2009 (UTC)