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[edit] Protestant Reich Church or German Evangelical Church

Hey, should the Protestant Reich Church article be renamed German Evangelical Church? I don't know much about it, but after reading the article and talkpage I'm getting the feeling that German Evangelical Church should be the title and Protestant Reich Church a redirect. Does anyone know more on the subject? Ltwin (talk) 21:21, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Definitely not. I've been unhappy with the redirect, even, because it redirects from historical German Evangelical churches in the United States, Australia, Canada, and South America. Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:51, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request for comment

Please see Talk:Scientology_controversies#RfC:_Alleged_oppression_of_Scientologists_in_Germany. Cirt (talk) 13:44, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A little geography query and a word translation

Hi, I'm working on Rudolf Schock and am wanting to clarify a couple of things. First the Bayreuth Festival site says he died in Dueren-Guerzenich while Grove Online says he died in Guerzenich. Are they basically the same place? I notice that Bayreuth says he lived in Dueren - is that yet another name for the same thing, or are the three entities different? I also want to check on the meaning of "erfolgreichste" and whether "zugleich" weakens it on the Bayreuth page. I'm guessing it says he was the outstanding German film singer of his generation, but should like to confirm before I add it to the article.--Peter cohen (talk) 17:03, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Gürzenich is a district of the county town of Düren, and

Zugleich war Rudolf Schock der erfolgreichste deutsche Filmsänger seiner Generation.

means

Furthermore Rudolf Schock was the most successful German movie singers of his generation.

I wonder whether this can be called NPOV.

--Abe Lincoln (talk) 17:24, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. If you look at the state of the article before I started on it today and the fact tags I've slapped in, you'll see that NPOV struck me as an issue that needed addressing. As for the reference in the Bayreuth profile, it's 50 years since he made his five stage appearances there. So I don't think there is a real conflict of interest there. I think I can say the claim is made by them, althoug I suspect that they've just reproduced the content of their source. It's noticeable that of the four family profiles (Wieland Wagner, Wolfgang Wagner, Katharina Wagner and Eva Wagner-Pasquier) in the artists section where I found Schock's profile only Katharina's seems to be hyped. Her father's and uncle's profiles are both given sources unlike her and her half-sister's. My instict is that all the sourced bios are just reproduced with permission.--Peter cohen (talk) 18:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)