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I have just created a category called Category:Football tournament squads to categorise all the major (and minor) touranments' squad lists. --Pkchan 17:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Players

I copy here a comment I just left in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Players. Please, if you answer, do it on the players page. Thanx.

I'm quite embarrassed by the way people are modifying the order of the cats for footballers: they sort it by alphabetical order (which is the policy for general articles, I guess) while I would prefer to have some special policy for footballers. To me, the cats should be in this order:

birth year
"other" cats (living people, natives from...), by alphabetical order
country (e.g. english footballers)
position (e.g. football (soccer) striker)
clubs by chronological order (e.g. Arsenal F.C. players)
manager (if needed, with managed clubs like for player)
death year

Any comment welcome. And by the way, if someone adds something like West Ham F.C. midfielders, then the player should not have the cat West Ham F.C. players, which is redundant. Julien Tuerlinckx 18:15, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New sub-category?

Considering the plethora of football (soccer) clubs around the world, does anyone think that it would be a good idea to create a new sub-category, Category:Football (soccer) clubs established in xxxx under the category of Category:Sports clubs established in xxxx? Any opinion on this matter would be deeply appreciated. If this is approved, then we would have a lot of work to do! The same categorization format would then also apply to other sports as well. This, I believe, would make navigation between the various sports related articles easier. --S iva1979^{Talk to me} 16:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I have no objections to going ahead with this, it's a good idea in principle, but I'm afraid I haven't got the time to help out in any major way. Qwghlm 17:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

No objections here either, sounds like a good idea, but I haven't got the time to do the job either. On the other hand, it doesn't need to be done all at once. – Elisson • T • C • 17:22, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

No objections at all, but it would be really a big work to do, as almost all articles in the "Sports clubs..." categories refer to football clubs. Probably a bot would be a good solution to perform this, but I'm not an expert on this. --Angelo 18:42, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Sounds a good plan to me. It shouldn't be too hard for someone with the know-how to write a bot that extracts the required data from the phrase "established in...". 19:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Agree. The project seems to be going fine for Category:Companies by year of establishment under Category:Companies, so their experience can probably be followed here.

Indeed the categories may be better off following the example set at Category:Companies, and allow clubs to be organised by multiple criteria, such as by year of establishment, year of disestablishments, country/league that the club play in, &c.. The existing see of sub-categories under Category:Football (soccer) clubs may then be organised into multiple trees of sub-categories, such as Category:Football (soccer) clubs > Category:Football (soccer) clubs by continent > Category:Football (soccer) clubs under UEFA > Category:Football (soccer) clubs under the FA > Arsenal F.C.. --Pkchan 11:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

The issue is to categorize football teams by year of establishment in an apposite category. You talk about something else, and in this case we already have football clubs categorized by country, quite enough in my opinion. --Angelo 14:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)