[edit] External links
Hello, I would like to discuss how we should deal with external links. It's come up a few times and I would like to make sure I'm on the right track. A few cases that show what I'm considering:
Removing some news articles in addition to AV company sources. I think a well-written description from an expert in the field is a good link. Whereabouts should we draw the line on sources vs. spam links?
Is this a good application of WP:NOTHOWTO?
Does this fail WP:EL?
--HamburgerRadio (talk) 20:55, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- Koobface: If they really are 'sources', they should be inline cited, not added as a list below. So maybe some of them shouldn't be deleted, but integrated.
- Bagle: Removing this is OK, IMO. The Rootkit page he's talking about in his edit summary is an exception, because it's about the difficulty to remove rootkits, not a specific rootkit. This section doesn't provide any information that's useful to know from an encyclopedian point of view.
- Botnet: That website doesn't contain information at all, just a bunch of files. So IMO is does fail WP:EL. It's interesting, but not for Wikipedia. I'd remove it. --DanielPharos (talk) 13:18, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Pretty much what I was thinking, and seems consistent with WP:EL too. I'll keep this in mind. --HamburgerRadio (talk) 16:13, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
This list is confusing and repetitive. There is no way to edit it. It has no lead paragraph. The Table of Contents falls below the first list. I hope somebody will take care of it. I am marking it with an Expert Needed tag. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- I have never seen that page, and I think it may need to be reviewed for content, much of it could probably be moved to List of computer viruses. Sephiroth storm (talk) 12:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Couldn't be just nuke the entire thing (the categories are like this 'list', right?) and only keep a list of 'important'/'famous' viruses? Keeping a list of all viruses is the job of antivirus manufacturers, not Wikipedia. --DanielPharos (talk) 13:08, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
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- Personally, I agree, but there could be some notable ones in the list, I'd say add anyone that has an article already gets merged, the rest goes. Sephiroth storm (talk) 17:25, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Social Engineering
Since when have we been calling criminals "social engineers" The proper term or label for those that invade the privacy, steal information with intent of using it for their gain is called "felony" not social engineering
- Hello User:198.51.125.3 (talk), Welcome to wikipedia, and please sign your posts with 4 tildes(~). In answer to your question, The name likely came from the terms to describe the use of similar skills in the political and other areas, see Social engineering (political science) and Social engineering (security). As you can see from the above links, Social engineering is not always used for the purposes you described, and it is not always an illegal act. Thank you and welcome to Wikipedia. Sephiroth storm (talk) 13:23, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
[edit] New category created
Check out Category:Computer Security articles needing attention. And work on it! Sephiroth storm (talk) 23:36, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Project banners
A few questions:
- Now that WikiProject Malware has been merged here, should remaining uses of {{WikiProject Malware}} be replaced with {{WikiProject Computer Security}}?
- Should the parameters for WikiProject Computer Security and the Computer and Information Security task force be merged in {{WikiProject Computing}}?
- This is at the project's discretion, of course, but why use a seperate banner when the appropriate parameters in {{WikiProject Computing}} can do the same job?
Regards. PC78 (talk) 13:55, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- 1: Yes. Is there a way to do that automatically?
- 2: Yes. Well, merge... removing the Computer and Information Security is preferred (and switching over whatever articles that are still using it), I think.
- 3: Don't know. It was like that when I got here! :D --DanielPharos (talk) 17:43, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- 1. Yes, yes, A bot can do it, but if I remember correctly, we need a complete (as possible) list of all categories under Malware and CCISTF, so the bot can go through and replace the templates.
- 2.Yes.
- 3.If you are talking just about the banners, I think there may be some topics that more refer to information security rather than computer security. Rather than splitting hairs, I think its better to just use a separate banner. Besides. Ours looks cooler. Sephiroth storm (talk) 14:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
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- I've already sorted #2, and I believe Tothwolf has taken care of #1. Regards. PC78 (talk) 14:46, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Articles from the WikiProject Computing/Computer and Information Security task force and WikiProject Malware should now all be part of WikiProject Computer Security. I've redirected {{WikiProject Malware}} to {{WikiProject Computer Security}} and replaced {{WikiProject Malware}} with {{WikiProject Computer Security}} as I came across transclusions.
{{WikiProject Computer Security}} should not be replaced with {{WikiProject Computing}} using taskforce parameters. {{WikiProject Computing}} is currently a nightmare and is confusing for people to use. After spending so much time digging through this mess I fully intend to phase out most of the parameters in favour of individual project banner templates as I sort through the categories and continue to clean up this huge mess. --Tothwolf (talk) 17:32, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Good job Tothwolf. Sephiroth storm (talk) 14:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
