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[edit] Which date format to use?

There is an ongoing debate at the talk page for WP:Manual of Style (dates and numbers) as to whether to use day-month-year or month-day-year date format in articles with a strong tie to a specific country. The debate has reached the point where the choice is between the format actually used in the country, or dependent on the variety of English used in articles about that country. This is straightforward for countries such as the U.S.A. or the U.K., but problematic when considering countries where English is not an official language. With the removal of date autoformatting, editors will increasingly see dates presented in "raw" form, rather than as set in user preferences. The current proposal is found here. --Pete (talk) 10:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cantonese wikiproject?

Is there a WP:Canton or Cantonese WikiProject? (dealing with the people, province, diaspora, etc) 09:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.8.75 (talk)

[edit] Charles Zhang

Hi all, I have started a new project. Please feel free to help out, improve & correct my mistakes. Thank you. TheAsianGURU (talk) 22:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] requested moves: Cantonese and Standard Cantonese

Cantonese and Standard Cantonese are both up for renaming at WP:RM 70.55.200.131 (talk) 16:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] requested move: Yue Chinese

Yue Chinese is up for renaming at WP:RM 70.55.86.100 (talk) 10:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hoax article on English and Chinese Wikipedias

I'm hoping someone might be able to go over to the Chinese Wikipedia and flag an article there as a hoax. Aleksei Meng was deleted here as an obvious hoax (discussion), but I noticed the author has also created versions on the Russian and Chinese WPs as well. Thanks! — BillC talk 05:57, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Now deleted. — BillC talk 14:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Battle of Songjin?

I just removed a massive copyright violation from Battle of Songjin. I was trying to add information to that article, but I cannot find anything on the battle. When and where did it take place? Is an alternative spelling more common? Expert input would be greatly appreciated. (There was a battle between Japan and Korea in 1592 known as "Battle of Songjin" [1].) Cheers, AxelBoldt (talk) 20:05, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese exclamative particles

I just created Chinese exclamative particles, should this be added to WP China? -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs 11:03, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. TheAsianGURU (talk) 18:16, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POV review of new article

Weiquan movement Picked this up on patrol, seemed to me to fail NPOV just slightly, removed a useless and subtly POV pushing gallery. Written by author who's user page says opposes communism, so assuming was not NPOV in initial creation (I'm neither for or against any government type, prefer to consider governments by their leadership and actions, not format). Thank you. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 07:04, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Linguistics and related boxes, please make distinctions

The linguistics box should include the romanizations appliable to the correspondent chinese characters... For instance, in the ROC, we can see IN THE LINGUISTICS BOX both the simplified and the traditional: In the country profile we only see the traditional variant, CAUSE THATS THE OFFICIAL ONE THERE... DPP has its own linguistics box and its own political box, the same applies to some newspapers, TV channels... and so on... Is this a policy or an established guideline? If not, Id like to propose it... Gumuhua (talk) 19:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Guidelines for "China" vs. "PRC" usage

Please join the new discussion about Guidelines for "China" vs. "PRC" usage on the People's Republic of China article --Cybercobra (talk) 06:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Need Reliable Chinese Source for Battle of Triangle Hill (上甘岭战役)...

Right now I'm trying to make this article into A-Class status, but it start to look impossible if I put 周明's article as a reference for Chinese side of the action. I tried to find a replacement source, but all mainland sources bounced back to this article one way or the other. CCTV, Xinhua and PLA publishing house looks like a no-no unless I want to be accused of rewriting history. Several Wikipedians suggested that I remove this source all together, but then the article would boil down to a typical UN vs Chinese horde story, which is biased against the Chinese side.

Is there a hope to find a reliable source that tells the Chinese side of the 上甘岭 story? Or this article will stuck at B-Class like all the other articles dealing with PRC history? Jim101 (talk) 04:18, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

First of all, I want to say that what you are doing is quite impressive. Ever since I saw the Battle on Shangganling Mountain's (the movie) wiki entry, I realized Triangle Hill’s article entry is important. Chinese RSs are going to be very difficult to find. Because of the movie (Shangganling), there is a huge amount of Chinese sources about the background of the battle. However, as you pointed out before, I would also rate almost all of 99% are heavily bias and do not truly reflect the battle field condition. Or, we can find sources from Taiwan (also written in Chinese). It was during a period of strong hatred, and the soon followed First Taiwan Strait Crisis made them also, not so great Chinese RS.
The bright side is that more and more Chinese information about the Korean War are opened up. So hopefully, we'll be able to add more Chinese RS in the future. Again, keep up the good work. TheAsianGURU (talk) 20:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
What can I say...having a family memember lost a finger there tend to give me extra motiviation.
So, by experiences...is it possbile to bring this article, free of bias, to A-class with a Chinese source? How do Wikipedians balancing polarising POVs? Jim101 (talk) 22:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I don’t want to put a damper on your enthusiatism, but if you look around, class GA and above Chinese related articles are almost all categorized in history, location, item, games, culture, language and other “non-sensitive” topics. Battle of Triangle Hills is a very “sensitive” topic and the outcome of the battle is even more “sensitive.” Take a look at Sino-Vietnamese War, that article is already beyond repaired. Or take a look at the main article at Korean War, with 2 neutrality tags, 2 clean up & 1 additional ref tag, you can hardly call it a “Good Article.” This is a problem for all of us here at Project China and personally, I believe it’s also partly because Internet censorship in the People's Republic of China. I do believe this article can easily jump to GA Status and I found a ref from the Chinese Language Wiki that you might think it’s helpful. It’s about a Chinese Sniper & his story & accounts on Triangle Hill. It was writen based on a CCTV interview in 2003. Good luck. TheAsianGURU (talk) 23:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. Jim101 (talk) 23:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] questionable series of CN representation edits

Hi, someone with more contextual understanding may want to review these edits: Special:Contributions/124.244.243.111 - I fixed a couple blatant ones regarding deletion and WP:NC-CHINA, but I sense additional POV-pushing. —EqualRights (talk) 13:13, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Baidu 10 Mythical Creatures (Internet meme)

Add this? It is generating much hype over Chinese cyberspace in recent times, a popular Chinese internet meme arising in early 2009. The article has over 10k+ views, and has even been slashdotted, and noted in a French article. Baidu 10 Mythical Creatures (Internet meme) was written by me during early March, and needs regular watching and regulation, as some IP editors with poor English skills are frequently contributing, reducing the quality of the article. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs 05:42, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Naming Laws in the People's Republic of China

New article created by me: Naming Laws in the People's Republic of China -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 02:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Classical Chinese grammar

Created new article. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 06:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Junmin Shenfenzheng

You can kinda guess. I've had plenty of free time lately to write, write, write. Here's another China related article. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 14:59, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I have to say, I found the "ID #" section most intriguing, informative, thx for the infor. TheAsianGURU (talk) 21:28, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Another article created: Nine exterminations. (I've guessed you're all tired of me making these damn new sections, aren't you? Hehe.) -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 14:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
By the way, I'm not entirely sure how to accurately translate "株连九族". If anyone has a better idea, please feel free to change the article title. Thanks. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 14:19, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
New article: Mongoloid cuticle. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 04:41, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
New article: Zhonghua Zihai. -- 李博杰  | Talk contribs email guestbook complaints 14:08, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request Split for Three-legged_bird

I think each countries three-legged bird should have its own article. whipsandchains (talk) 04:54, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] New Article Zhenniao

A new article created by me Zhenniao whipsandchains (talk) 06:44, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request assistance

You can help with a source dispute, by taking a look at this article in Chinese, and then checking to see whether the translated material in this English article is accurately translated. Please add your comments to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#China Youth On Line. Thanks in advance for your help. --Coleacanth (talk) 21:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Working on it here. Jim101 (talk) 22:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Done. Jim101 (talk) 02:29, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Futian incident and Anti-Bolshevik League incident

Futian incident and Anti-Bolshevik League incident need more wikification, translation, and verification of sources.--60.242.159.224 (talk) 08:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)




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