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[edit] December 24

[edit] 2 articles on the same thing

Hi, I was just wondering what I ought to do (Delete, Speedy delete, re-direct, merge, etc.). There's two articles about the Leinster Junior Schools Cup. What should be done with the inferior Leinster Junior Cup article about the same thing? Backbeatlistener (talk) 01:20, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

You could take it through the formal process of requesting a merger, or because this is not likely to be a high-traffic article, you could "be bold" and combine the facts into a single article under whichever is the better "common name", and redirect from the other one. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:24, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)If there is any information in Leinster Junior Cup that is not in Leinster Schools Junior Cup, then merge the content and then redirect. If there's nothing worth merging, then just redirect. --Mysdaao ^talk 01:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Having trouble with a custom signature...

I have been trying to make my signature using this code:[[User:Hamtechperson|Ham]][[User talk:Hamtechperson|tech]][[Special:Contributions/Hamtechperson|person]]. It should come out like this: Ham tech person. However, when I put it in my signature box and click the check box to make this be my signature, I get an error message telling me to check the HTML tags. What is the problem? Using a basic HTML page with the text leaving the wiki-links out, but the HTML code is not modified, works fine. Hamtechperson (talk) 02:22, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Use quotation marks around the color code:

<font color="#FF6C00">[[User:Hamtechperson|Ham]]</font><font color="#3415B0">[[User talk:Hamtechperson|tech]]</font><font color="#A8F000">[[Special:Contributions/Hamtechperson|person]]</font>

. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:54, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Just a note, the light green is very hard to read on a white background. You may want to consider a darker color. TNXMan 14:51, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] JS on talk page

Is there any way to import a js file (say something like user:btilm/replace.js) to a page so that the script will run on the page whenever someone visits it? Btilm_{Happy Holidays!} 04:06, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm not aware of anything like this (of course, that doesn't mean its not possible) - as a rule, js files are for inclusion in people's monobook(etc).js files. They import it by adding the line importScript('User:Btilm/replace.js');. In your case, a "replace" tab will be added to the screen if the script is in the user's skin js file. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:01, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Cannot Setup the WIkiFIlter to Work with either Apache or IIS in sevrer 2008

i followed the instrucstion below exactly and nothing seems to happen i even tried IIS but no luck.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.229.217.95 (talk) 04:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I would follow the final bit of advice: If it doesn't work, see the forums -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Medieval Warming Period

Why are contributors unable to provide the historical graph for this period in time? Rather than the graph that has been proven to inaccurately portray this period? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GrandePrairie (talk • contribs) 07:04, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

The proper place to discuss this is on the talk page of the relevant article (presumably Global warming or Global warming controversy): this is the Help Desk, for questions about using Wikipedia.

It sounds as if you are arguing against widely-held views: that is perfectly acceptable, but be aware that exceptional claims require exceptional sources. You need to explain on the talk page exactly what you think is wrong, not just make sweeping statement about people being "unable to provide the ... graph"; and present extremely solid, reliable references for your claim that the given graph has been "proven to inaccurately portray". --ColinFine (talk) 08:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Signature blues

Hi, I'm a bit new to wikipedia and I would like to create a signature. I would be much obliged if somebody could help me with this. Thank you in advance. Rock drum (talk) 13:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I assume that you have read WP:CUSTOMSIG? If you still have questions, I'd suggest leaving them at Wikipedia_talk:Signatures -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Download article titles

Resolved. – ukexpat (talk) 15:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, is there any way to download a plain text file of all English Wikipedia article titles (titles only), including all the redirect pages if possible? 81.152.168.149 (talk) 14:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC).

Wikipedia:DUMP mentions all_titles_in_ns0.gz - I'm assuming that includes redirects, but I can't guarantee it! (the 'latest' version at wikimedia.org is 37.7Mb compressed, 133Mb uncompressed - it is complete to 2009-Nov-29 00:57:31 -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Steve. 81.152.168.149 (talk) 14:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC).

[edit] Text quality

i'm currently viewing wikipedia on wii (non mobile) and i think text quality has degraded. why is this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.230.147.170 (talk) 15:17, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How to publish my Page?

Resolved. User page and subpage deleted under CSD G11 and user blocked for having username that is company/group name. --Mysdaao ^talk 14:16, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I am the editor of ARThood and want to publish my Page. I "saved" the Page (which I understood would make the information public to everyone), but the information is still not visible. Please help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by ARThood (talk • contribs) 15:42, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

You have put the information on a user page, which is not an article. Since you don't have the ability to move pages until your account is autoconfirmed, you can create an article with the content with the article wizard. However, the content on User:ARThood/ARThood is probably not acceptable on Wikipedia because it looks to be about a non-notable website. You will have to add reliable sources to show notability. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (web) for more information on this. Also, your username indicates you are associated with the website. In that case, you are strongly discouraged from creating the article at all because it is a conflict of interest. --Mysdaao ^talk 15:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, for the same reason, your username probably contravenes Wikipedia:User name policy. --ColinFine (talk) 16:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Uploading new images?

Resolved. – ukexpat (talk) 17:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded a new, cropped image to Mike Kafka, and the old one keeps showing up instead. I don't know if it's Wikipedia or my computer. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:20, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes it takes a while for images to update on all pages on which they are displayed. Try purging the page cache, purging the image cache, and waiting an hour. I think the image has updated now, anyway. Intelligentsium 17:26, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Still hasn't been updated (at least not for me) and I'm not sure how to purge everything. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:30, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

First, try bypassing your cache. If this does not work, Wikipedia:Purge explains purging. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:32, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, it worked now after I bypassed my cache. Eagles 24/7 (C) 17:35, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How to remove redirect while keeping sandbox?

Resolved. Mysdaao ^talk 14:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I just moved an article into the mainspace, but the move left a redirect at User:Giants2008/Sandbox. I could just mark the entire page for deletion, but I would prefer to leave the sandbox intact as a functional page for future article building. How do I get rid of this redirect while leaving the sandbox functional? Is this something that I can do, or will admin help be required? Giants2008 (27 and counting) 17:53, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

You can remove the redirect syntax, and the sandbox will still be there, though you will probably have to subst: it into the mainspace if you don't want a confusing initial edit. Intelligentsium 18:02, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

In that case, what would be the formatting for subst? Giants2008 (27 and counting) 18:05, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. I just removed the syntax and added a user sandbox template, and everything appears to be in order. Didn't know that I could remove that myself. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 18:09, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

You can also type {{db-userreq}} if you want any page in your userspace deleted. An admin will come along shortly and delete it. --Jayron32 18:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)If you want a new article to be moved into the mainspace from your userspace (without a first edit saying "moved x to y"), you can put {{subst:User:Giants2008/Sandbox}} on a page, and the contents of the Sandbox will be copypasted to that page. As you should be the only contributor to the Sandbox draft, attribution will not be a problem, I think. Intelligentsium 18:12, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Attribution was what I was worried about at first. Will keep that in mind for the next time I build up a page. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 18:19, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Virginia College

kind of an fyi there was a college in virginia years ago also called virginia college. my mom graduated from there about 1924 or 25 it apparently disbanded at some point thought it might be interesting for readers to know i don't have too many more facts for you - sorry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.182.44.135 (talk) 18:18, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for this! The Virginia College mentions nothing of this (which is why you mentioned it here!) but unfortunately we need some verification of the facts - as I'm sure you can appreciate, we can't just have "My mom told me" as a source of information! Without more information, I'm afraid that we can't really create a new article. Perhaps you could ask your mom to look at this list of Virginia Colleges that have Closed, Merged, Changed Names and see if any of them ring a bell: I suspect that the name was not exactly "Virginia College". Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 18:43, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] aashrama jeevitham

i would like to spend my lwhole life in an ashramam, which means not by doing any work but i need the aashramam in tamilnadu and its village? pls dont need any other advice or comments`Gowriraj.nair (talk) 20:03, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --Mysdaao ^talk 20:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] template for tagging disputes of licenses?

File:Nicholas Blake.JPG is tagged as self-made; I think it's a screenshot or something, but I don't know exactly what since I'm not the creator. Is there a template to tag such things for review? Pseudomonas_(talk) 23:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Blatant copyvio; {{db-f9}}. Screenshots are by default copyrighted. Tagged. Intelligentsium 23:51, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] December 25

[edit] Usage of material

On inserting Indian states in search bar one gets an alphab list of all states commencing with Andaman & Nicobar and ending with West Bengal. On the RIGHT of each page there is a logo and relevant details of each state; when was this compiled? I'm developing the definitive 'for India only'Environmental website - I live there 3/6 of 12 and am being assisted by several NGOs nationally and other govt 'faces'. I'd like to know how to use these details and the best way to.

It'd be easier just to have a www link directly to each page, so how to please.If some of these states details are found to be slightly incorrect or o-o-date does anyone mind them being changed. I'm just a retired -slightly MS - old man who is still not PC correct [ in more ways than one!] despite having a new Xmas present [ thanks to rich son ]oh well, needs must.

IF any of you wikipeople have a company or is interested in advertising / supporting on the site - on Joomla - when it's completed [ MIN OF 75% GOES DIRECTLY TO WOMENS / VILLAGES SELF-HELP groups ]which you are welcome to verify any time from anywhere please contact me -Tony ^{[details removed]} .

EASY PEASY please as this will be seen by millions + who are just starting to verbally / gramtically /orally get to grips with proper english [ as she is spoken ] not pidgin-type Hollywood films.

HELP ASAP / HELP ASAP / HELP ASAP

fELICE NAVIDAD " COME ON THE RIGHT PATH AND WE'LL COME TO MEET YOU "

Tony Langham www.banplasticbags.org.uk [ this is what I play with at one home ] with lotsa help; thanks Lord. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grandaddy21 (talk • contribs) 11:48, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address.

Please do not advertise your site on Wikipedia. The Help Desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, so I will try to answer those questions, but if you wish to advertise your site, there are other forums on the Internet where you can do that.

If you have a question on a specific article, it is helpful to write the title of the article here. The title of each page is at the very top in large font. From what you wrote, my guess is that you're either talking about States and territories of India or Template:India states. On Wikipedia pages, you can usually click on an image to find its information. On these pages, the only image there is File:India-states-numbered.svg which gives you information on the image and when it was uploaded. Every page, including articles, has a page history which can be accessed by pressing "history" on the top of the page. The page history lists every change was made, when each was made, and who made each change.

To get a permanent link to a page, on the left side under "toolbox", click "Cite this page". That will give you permanent link to use if you want to if you want to link to that version of the page. If you are going to reuse Wikipedia content on your site, you must give credit to Wikipedia for it.

If you see something that is incorrect on Wikipedia, anyone may change it, including you. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by pressing "edit this page" at the top. You can be bold and edit it yourself, and if you make a mistake, someone else will fix it soon. If you find a mistake but don't wish to change it yourself, you can request the change here, but please be very specific and tell us what exactly you want changed and on what page. Also, Wikipedia content must be verifiable, so please provide a reliable source for any change you want to make. --Mysdaao ^talk 14:02, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Curtis Mathes TV

I purchased a curtis mathes 32 inch tv model #cm32010 without a user guide and I cnat program the tv to work what can I do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.144.169 (talk) 15:52, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:06, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] article an photo

i am trying to find an article in which a photo was taken of a couple of planes, i believe over korea in 1959 and the clouds were in formation of a perfect picture of jesus. i would like a copy of the picture. i'm hoping you can find in your archives. thank you. my name is pat tucker —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pat.tucker98 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I can't find the image on Wikipedia or on Commons, but I've found it at http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/jesusclouds.asp. Whatever you're going to use it for, keep in mind that the photo is fake. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:55, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Fb and Template:Fb-rt

Merry Christmas to everybody.

I know how to use those templates, I'd just like to ask the following. "Fb" and "Fb-rt" are abbreviations of what? --62.204.152.181 (talk) 18:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

They stand for football and football-right. The templates display an image of a nation's flag and an internal link to that nation's national football team. {{fb}} puts the flag to the left of the team link, and {{fb-rt}} puts the flag to the right of the team link. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:34, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Extra code on top of new image

Resolved. Fixed image in infobox on Julian Casablancas. --Mysdaao ^talk 15:45, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I put an image in the infobox for the article on singer Julian Casablancas. ([1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Casablancas)

However, after I've edited the page with the new image, there is an extra code that is visible above and beneath the image. What's wrong?

Nash212 (talk) 18:50, 25 December 2009 (UTC)nash212

You added the full image syntax to the infobox. You only need that if you're displaying an image on its own in an article. In an infobox, you only need the image name. You can see the documentation, including how to use images, at Template:Infobox musical artist. I have changed the infobox fields on Julian Casablancas so it won't display the extra code. --Mysdaao ^talk 19:02, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh I knew something like that was the problem! Thanks a lot, still getting used to the editing side of the site. Nash212 (talk) 14:30, 26 December 2009 (UTC)nash212

You're welcome! --Mysdaao ^talk 15:45, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I need help with searching and disambiguation

There are now three films about Che Guevara. There is "Che Guevara", "Che!", and a new film made in two parts called "Che". I would like to make it easier for people to find and distinguish them. For beginners, people should be able to search for "Che film" and have all three appear in the drop down menu. All all three should also appear if someone searches for "Che Guevara". A disambiguation page may also be indicated. I am not sure of all the steps involved to accomplish these things. There are also several other pages about Guevara.

Che! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che!_(film)

Che Guevara http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara_(film)

Che http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_(film)

bruvensky (talk) 20:47, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Currently there is a disambiguation page Che (disambiguation). The top of Che Guevara has a link to the disambiguation page, so if somebody searches for "Che Guevara", they will first go to the article and can see the link to the disambiguation page immediately. There is also now a redirect from Che film to Che (film). If you want to change the redirect to something else (such as the disambiguation page), go to Che film, and at the top you'll see "(Redirected from Che film)". Click on the "Che film" link and that will take you to the redirect page. Edit that page and you can change where it redirects to. --Mysdaao ^talk 20:54, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

There is a {{Che Guevara}} navigation template you could add to all the articles about him (which do not already display the template). See Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates for an overview of navigation methods on Wikipedia. You probably cannot satisfy everyone who tries to use the search box, since you cannot predict all the different keywords people will try to search for something. Your use of the phrase "drop down movie" suggests you may be asking for search box behavior that we do not have. --Teratornis (talk) 21:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I meant to say "drop down menu". bruvensky (talk) 21:12, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

The only kind of "drop down menu" is what pages are suggested in search bar when you type words in. That is a technical feature of Wikipedia, and users have no direct control over what appears or what order the pages are in. --Mysdaao ^talk 21:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

There may be a way to indirectly control what appears in the drop down menu by making redirect pages or something else. bruvensky (talk) 23:09, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-11-10/Search engine gives some hints. But note, we have zero information about how many people are searching in any particular way. You can only know how you would like to search for something, but once you know where an article is, you no longer need to search for it. Thus it is difficult to know whether a change that would have helped you search for something will help others, or how many others it will help. Also see Category:Che Guevara which should list all the articles directly relating to the subject. --Teratornis (talk) 19:31, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] December 26

[edit] hi...

Hi,

I am VISHNU S UNNITHAN. I have just created a account to write something about me on wikipedia. IS it possible to create the page by us or may i post the page to you. So that you will publish it for me?. Please respond back to me.

thanking you

vishnu —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsu47 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, Vishnu. However, you really shouldn't be writing an article about yourself. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. You should also look at Wikipedia:Your first article, WP:BIO, and WP:NOT. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:29, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation of a minor previous entry to a new major entry of the same name

Hello,

For the past few weeks I have been compiling facts to create a new Wikipedia entry for the artist group named Celer, who was active from 2005-2009. I have all the necessary information, biographies, discography, sources, relevant links, etc.

In searching Wikipedia I found no pages created for the artist group Celer, but instead I found this one, created because of a mention in a book by Ovid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celer

My question is this.. Since Celer (the artist group) would be searched heavily, far more than the literary reference, should I change the literary reference to a minor article, but creating a descriptive addition to the link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celer (literary reference) or something like that..

or should I instead create something like this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celer (artists) for the artist group, and leave the other alone?

Doing a simple google search for Celer obviously shows there is more popularity directed towards the artists.

Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it, and thank you for helping me create a good information source for these important, and meaningful artists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Missing Symmetry (talk • contribs) 02:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should create an article called Celer (group). I am going to create a disambiguation page for Celer, which will link to the various Celers we have on Wikipedia. I will include a link to Celer (group) in anticipation of the new article! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:48, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I have moved the original Celer page to Celer (builder) and made Celer as a disambiguation page. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:09, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Administrator

Does anybody know where all the administrators are located so I can ask them for assistance? 24.189.90.68 (talk) 02:53, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

You can find the list here. Alternatively, you can use {{adminhelp}} and ask your question on your talk page, and an admin will come along and help you. ≈ Chamal ^talk ☃ 02:56, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 02:57, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] soccer

who is the premier league manager caught nvisiting a brothel? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.18.0 (talk) 05:48, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RADHA the movie

Dear sir, we making a movie in kannada,indian langauge titled RADHA the movie, the website is under construction, anwe would like to use wikipedia as a source of information in reference to the movie RADHA, we request you to kindly guide me in this regard as to how i start and post the necessary detail , we also assure thaat we will strictly adhere to the guide lines set by your company —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muraligshankar (talk • contribs) 09:23, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Movies which have not actually been released are very seldom notable before release. The Notability Guidelines for future films says Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines'. If you think that this film meets those guidelines, I would suggest that you leave a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films/Future films and discuss it there. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Toolbox antics

Hi, I have created a toolbox without really considering what sort of thing goes in it. I have looked at User page help pages and have still not found an answer. Can somebody please tell me? Thank you. Rock drum (talk) 10:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you checked the user page design center? You'll probably find some ideas there. ≈ Chamal ^talk ☃ 11:39, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I have already done that. I'm sorry for not mentioning it before. Rock drum (talk) 15:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] erroneous article

The original entry on my father Charles "Chick" Parsons was a short and accurate biography of that man. Now it is not visible and has been replaced by a highly erroneous article. How did this happen? I do not want to spend a lot of time correcting the present one. But I would like to have the original available once again, instead of the one that is there now. thanks. How do I do that???-----PetercparsonsPetercparsons (talk) 11:55, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Autobiography#Problems in an article about you. Even though the article is about a relative and not you personally, that section should help. Dismas|^(talk) 13:03, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

The article's talk page discusses what happened. Thomas R. Fasulo edited and the article based on a book. He says he talked to you and stopped editing based on your feedback on the source he was using. It might be best to discuss your concerns more with him. I hope this helps explain what happened and there are a couple of suggestions on how to proceed from here. If you need anything else I will try to help. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 13:29, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] TOU violation?

I found a website that contains text from Wikipedia. I know that reusing texts from Wikipedia on other websites is allowed, but, according to Wikimedia's Terms of Use, shouldn't be there a link to the page's history so that its authors could receive some credit?--ATDC Raigeki (talk) 12:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:22, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Changing my archive bot

I want to change my archive bot and have added mizabot 3 to my talkpage, I now have both bots, User talk:Off2riorob could someone tell me what is the easiest way to transfer my archives to the list so I can remove the original bot. Off2riorob (talk) 16:32, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I think I have sorted it out now, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 17:10, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] moving from user pages to articles space

I have written an article in user space and now want to move it to article space. How do I do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiroshermes (talk • contribs) 16:55, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

You can only move pages when your account is autoconfirmed, which happens when your account is at least four days old and has made at least ten edits. You can request someone here move your page for you, but I think your draft has issues with its sources and notability that should be addressed first. I suggest you read Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft before a requesting it be moved. --Mysdaao ^talk 17:44, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] December 27

[edit] Table trouble

Why doesn't the films table in Barbara Stanwyck filmography have a line at the bottom? Clarityfiend (talk) 00:51, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

There was a rowspan="2" code which indicated there should have been one more row but the extra row was not there. This causes some but not all browsers to not display a line at the bottom. I fixed it.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 01:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

2009	Thanks
2009	Thanks

Clarityfiend (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] route location

coming from antipolo city which is the shortest route going to sm city north edsa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.105.177.241 (talk) 00:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Opening article drafts for review

I am working on the basics for a new article, currently located at User:Scottius11/Lancefield railway line, Victoria. What is the best way to request criticism/comments/improvements from other users before I move it out of my userpage? In particular, I need a bit of help with perfecting the Template:Railway line header. Scottius11 (talk) 02:02, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The best place to ask for comments is Wikipedia:Requests for feedback, and I see you've already made a request there. --Mysdaao ^talk 03:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Return/get first word of page title

Would it be possible through the use of a template or any other means to be able to quote the certain words from a page's title? Consider this page's title for example "Help desk". Is it possible by some means to write a code so that the word "Help" is written/returned? (or if this 'code' or whatever is placed on some other page it writes/returns the first word from the title) --72.241.13.250 (talk) 02:58, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I think a better choice of a word instead of quote would be return. Thanks. --72.241.13.250 (talk) 03:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##titleparts is the closest thing I know of, but is not exactly what you want. See the links under WP:EIW#Template and WP:EIW#Magic. You might ask on WP:VPT if you don't get an answer here. There is a mw:Extension:StringFunctions available for MediaWiki, but it's not installed on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 04:36, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I was at the new pages forum and there are a lot of pages there that are vandalism, so I tried marking them as that and it worked with ((Vandalism)) (but with the other kind of brackets). Are there other ways to mark pages as pages that do not belong? There's a new page called Ispystrangers as an example that may not be vandalism but it is just a blank page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady in polka dot (talk • contribs) 03:18, 27 December 2009 (UTC) Oh I didn't sign.--Lady in polka dot (talk) 03:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

You may want to take a look at WP:NPP and WP:SPEEDY, those pages might help you out. ArcAngel (talk) 03:28, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] creating category article

at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard_2.0/Wizard-Ready_for_submission the article says that after creating a new Userspace draft "you'll see instructions on how to get your draft ready". when i did this ABSOLUTELY NOTHING APPEARED! Wran (talk) 03:43, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Do you refer to User:Wran/Egg breads? Maybe you misunderstand categories. See Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. --Teratornis (talk) 04:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

yes, that's what i'm referring to; but i can't find anything in either of the links you give that adresses my question Wran (talk) 07:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The directions to create a category are at Help:Category#Category pages. Basically, categories are created just like any other page. Just add the category to a page using the category name you want. That will create a redlink to the category on the bottom of the page. Click on the redlink, add any information want to the category page, and then save it. Then add the category to other pages you want in the category, and that will automatically populate the list on the category page. --Mysdaao ^talk 16:08, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Umm kinda stupid question :S

Is there a page that tells me how to create a table/chart for Wiki? Link please? Thanks :) Cruise meerkat (talk) 06:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I think Help:Table is what you're looking for. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 11:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Marley

HI there - I am a member of the Marley Family and when looking at the Bob Marley page we found 2 mistakes under his personal information. Our web person tried to fix these mistakes a while back but was not allowed. Please let us know how to go about correcting them.

1 Bob Marley did NOT father a child named Imani Carole, born May 22, 1963 to Cheryl Murray (this person needs to be removed)
2 Makeda Marley needs to be removed as his child. Please note that she was born after Bob Marley's death and although she was initially acknowledged as child and received compensation from the estate at the time of his death she is not recognized as his child by the family. Please check the official Bob Marley website that is being maintained by the family members and under family you can see all the children. Please let me know if you can correct these 2 points for us. Thank you.Aniohevetotcha (talk) 07:40, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Because you are associated with the subject of the article, it is strongly suggested that you not edit the article because that is a conflict of interest. You should request the edits be made on the discussion page for the article at Talk:Bob Marley. Because Wikipedia policy is that content must be verifiable by reliable secondary sources, you should provide a source that says these two people were not Bob Marley's children, other than the official site. Because the official site is run by the family, it is not sufficient to verify what you say. --Mysdaao ^talk 16:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I have edited to remove these two from the main list, as they are not listed at the official site. However, since there are sources on the web that say that they are Marely's children, I did not think it proper to remove them completely, but described the uncertainty.

In the case of Makeda, I note that Meredith Dixon lists her as Marley's daughter, unsurprisingly given you say she was at first acknowledged. But I cannot add the information you give about her status subsequently changing without a reliable published source.

The case of Imani Carole is different: there are many places on the web that mention her, but I did not find any reliable ones. It would be within Wikipedia's guidelines just to remove her; but since there are so many places that mention her I thought that this would be unwise, as somebody else will just add her in again (still without a reference). So I have explicitly said that there are places on the web that list her, but the official site does not.

I realise that this does not go as far as you have requested, but as always Wikipedia's criterion is verifiability not truth. If there is a published source explaining that Makeda's status changed, or that Imani Carole is definitely not a child of Bob Marley, then this information can go into the article. But as it stands, I'm afraid we cannot accept the information you have given. --ColinFine (talk) 16:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sound clips

I've moved this from Jimbo's talkpage. Skomorokh 11:07, 27 December 2009 (UTC) Completely lost

OK, this is probably completely the wrong place to be but in 45 minutes of searching it is the first place I can actually post a comment. The last thing I want is to conceal my internet address.

I looked up the (British) NHS (National Health Service) for a book chapter I am writing. I found a number of significant sound clips but clicking on any one of them brought up the message "this is not available in your area". We are talking about items that are 60 years old and so out of copyright. So what gives? Can anyone give me an answer?

OK, I have really low expectations of getting a reply.

Dr Guy Cox, <email address redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.173.16.156 (talk) 11:03, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address.
Are you talking about sound clips on Wikipedia? If so, could you give links to specific ones, then we can help more! If you are talking about sound clips on the web in general, many streams (both video and audio) are only allowed in the country in which they are hosted. For example, UK visitors to US websites can't see TV episodes. As for its copyright status, generally works are copyrighted for 50 years (see IPO's notes) - but the problem isn't the copyright, but the fact that you are trying to access a stream on a UK site from a non-UK site. You might want to contact the website owners and ask them about it.

Alternatively: Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.

As you left this question elsewhere, I am leaving a message on your talk page referring to this reply. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 13:06, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] adding a full article from an official source to the minimal bio already existing in Wikipedia

This is the first time to add information vs. edit existing info. We do not have time to incorporate more information into the existing biography of Doris Twitchell Allen, but have found an excellent full length aricle on the CISV Youngstown Ohio website that offers a lot more information about DTA. Is it possible to just copy and paste this article and provide the source citation? Is there a special way to do this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Allen existing article

article we'd like to add: http://youngstown.cisvusa.org/basic%20information/Doris%20Twitchell%20Allen.htm

Thank you for your help. Katie and John Greenman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayfrancis (talk • contribs) 15:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, probably not. First of all, Wikipedia cannot accept copy/pasted material where the copyright status is unclear. If you own the copyright to the material in question, then this page can help you. Secondly, the article is written from a very positive slant and Wikipedia articles should be written from a neutral point of view. The best way to use the document provided is to verify some of the facts listed in the article and cite your source. TNXMan 15:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] ridding an article of inappropriate templates

I was still in the process of creating the page Ed Naha when objections regarding originality, notability, references, and neutrality were raised, even though a glance at the page history would have revealed that the article was in a state of rapid development. This shows an absence of good faith on the part of the editors imposing these templates.

I have posted to the talk pages of the objecting editors, but haven't gotten their attention. How can I best get a set of objective eyes to evaluate the article and these templates? Bustter (talk) 18:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

A good place to go to get comments is Wikipedia:Requests for feedback.

They're not assuming bad faith by adding those templates, even if you're in the middle of making changes. It's an important part of an article's creation to let editors and readers know about potential problems, so they can be resolved and the article can be improved. I see you posted messages to those users less than 2 hours ago. You can't always expect an immediate response, and there's no rush because on Wikipedia, there is no deadline. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Of course there is no deadline, yet the "rush to judgement" on the article's validity came within 5 minutes of its creation. If it's clear that I am working on a newly created article, shouldn't a "presumption of good faith" bring the presumption that I am addressing the very issues being raised? The two editors who saddled the article with their templates, had they noted that I was working on the piece, should certainly revisit it after my activity was done. Further, the challenge against Naha's "notability" is clearly spurious, as searching for his name in Wikipedia itself demonstrates. Bustter (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

This is why it is often a good idea to work on an article in your userspace, and move it to article space when it's ready. --ColinFine (talk) 20:29, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Bustter, this is bad faith, when your editing is interrupted by a rush to tag. If it had been an attempt to assist you or improve the article, the tagger would not have interrupted your writing to tag. The article does have a lot of issues, particularly with the close paraphrasing, that need addressed. I will see what I can do to help with the article. There is no hurry to tag an article. The tagger can wait a day until you're done writing, the tagger can edit the article, the tagger can point you to resources. There are alternatives. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:35, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

If a user were judging the article's "validity", someone would have nominated it for deletion. That hasn't happened. Maintenance templates are not meant to attack the article. No article is perfect, and even very good, longstanding articles sometimes have templates on them pointing out ways to improve it. Please don't take it personally or be possessive of the article you created. All Wikipedia content is edited collaboratively (editing includes adding maintenance templates). Please read Wikipedia:Ownership of articles for this policy. If you want to request that other users not edit while you are in the middle of a series of changes, you can put {{inuse}} or {{increation}} templates, or another template from Category:Under-construction templates to let others know it is being actively worked on, as long as you remove it when you have completed your work. --Mysdaao ^talk 22:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

You know, it looks like the editor who tagged the article is trying hard to work withyou Bustter. Maybe go with it, instead of forum shopping. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:57, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Graphemes

There has been some discussion on Talk:Latin spelling and pronunciation about the use of chevrons/angle brackets to represent graphemes - for instance "macrons are frequently used to mark long vowels (‹ā›, ‹ē›, ‹ī›, ‹ō›, ‹ū›)" - my view is that the chevrons are ugly, unnecessary and distracting and this would be much better written as just "macrons are frequently used to mark long vowels (ā, ē, ī, ō, ū)" - the letters are here being used to represent themselves and the situation is therefore quite different to the use of slashes and square brackets to indicate that the letters they surround have a special phonemic or phonetic value. Ohters clearly take a different view. I'm not sure if this is the correct place to raise this issue, but if not perhaps someone could advise me where it should be raised. --rossb (talk) 19:27, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The place to discuss it is exactly where it has been discussed (where there has been a fair bit of discussion). If you really can't agree than see dispute resolution. But what you have done here looks a bit like "They won't listen to me there so I'll come and find somebody else to complain to". Apologies if that is not what you intend. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I think the point I wanted to make is that only a few people have participated in the debate on the article in question, but it's surely a more general issue which ought to have a wider airing. I note for instance that the grapheme article has no mention of this convention --rossb (talk) 22:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Alt text parameter for an infobox

Help please Can someone add a parameter to Template:Infobox Bibliography to allow for alt text? Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Please discuss at Template talk:Infobox Bibliography. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:57, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Fix

Resolved.

Can someone fix this page Tennis at the 2009 Southeast Asian Games - Women's Doubles? Thanks in advance. Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 19:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

A link was closed with a single bracket. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 1.000.000

hi guys.

the german wikipedia now has a million articles on stock... =:-) seems you'll have to create a new cat on the english main (bottom) site at "Wikipedia languages": more than a million articles.

anyway, thx for all & have nice 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.202.51.173 (talk) 19:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It has been sorted! Incidently, if anyone wants to add to my congratulations message on the German Wikipedia, I've put it here: de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:Eine-Million-Artikel-Seite#Herzlichen Glückwunsch aus der englischen Wikipedia-Editor (Congratulations from an English Wikipedia editor) - and if anyone can do a better translation of the phrases I used, please feel free to add them! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I should add that I didn't sort it (as the template is fully protected), but I asked for it to be done, and an admin did it -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] something is wrong with an article

If you think something is wrong, or misunderstand what is being said, how do you know and contact the person that has written it ???

As it says on the Potential energy page;

If the work done moving along a path which starts and ends in the same location is zero.

How can something move alone a path and back and have zero work ??? As mechanical work is the amount of energy transferred by a force acting through a distance

Mind you I just thought of this, BUT IT DOES [u]NOT[/u] say there was any work done on the path !!!

<redacted email address> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waynesplash (talk • contribs) 20:43, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address.
The best place to discuss it is on the article's talk page (in this case, Talk:Potential energy. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 20:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

IIRC, the phrase you have quoted, far from being incoherent, is the definition of a conservative field. --ColinFine (talk) 21:52, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Federal Ruling

I'm trying to find federal court ruling on the following topic: Maybe you have some suggestions!
The topic is:
Attorney and client priviliege when it comes to business records. These would be records used to file their tax returns with the state as-well-as with the IRS. Note:
I am currently a plaintiff in a civil case where-as the defendants attorney are claiming that such business records are priviliege, and I am claiming that such records are by nature public when they can be used for filing taxes and for making business and marketing promotional packages. Do you think that anyone can help me?
Manly R. Willis
Email at: (removed, we don't give email addresses here, spammers will love you) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.223.209.141 (talk) 21:27, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

You could try FindLaw or another legal search engine. This Help Desk is only for questions directly relating to Wikipedia; for all other knowledge questions, including this one, the Reference Desk is better equipped to help. Xenon54 / talk / 21:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

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