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[edit] November 1[edit] Cat:Stubs that need expanding
The result of the debate was speedily deleted as creation by sockpuppet of blocked user Apparently connected with {{expandstub}} below, though none of the articles marked with that template feed into it. We already have a category for stubs that need expanding - it's called Cat:Stubs. All stubs need expanding. Delete (preferably speedily, since it's empty) as redundant. Grutness...wha? 00:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] {{expandstub}}
The result of the debate was speedily deleted as creation by sockpuppet of blocked user Looks like an attempt to combine two different templates which serve widely different purposes - parameterised, too, which is strictly avoided for stubs. Not useful for the purposes of sorting stubs (quite the opposite - it's already leading to stubs being placed in non-existent categories due to the ease with which a spurious non-existent stub name can be used), and certainly not a viable replacement for either. Much more prominent than a standard stub template (which is one thing we try to avoid), overly linked to Wikispace, and a pain to edit (requires double the number of edits to add it or remove it, and due to its placement harder for newbie editors to edit around it). Delete Grutness...wha? 20:42, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] November 3[edit] {{Manchester-railstation-stub}} and {{Manchester-geo-stub}}
The result of the debate was moved (snowballed) Per discussion over at WP:WSS/P, these should probably be renamed to {{GreaterManchester-railstation-stub}} and {{GreaterManchester-geo-stub}} respectively for uniformity and more intuitive scoping (i.e., they already feed Greater Manchester categories). Rename, keeping the current names as redirects. Grutness...wha? 23:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cat:Football (soccer) stubs etc.
The result of the debate was no consensus at CfD
[edit] November 4[edit] baseball pitcher
The result of the debate was redirected
Waacstats (talk) 22:38, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] November 5[edit] {{Soft drink-stub}}
The result of the debate was speedily deleted NOTE: this isn't in any way connected to the long-standing {{soft-drink-stub}}. This one's just plain bizarre. This attempted stub template has a header followed by two transcluded stubs, one for food brands and one for television. Even more weirdly, the only article that uses this is for a soup company. Would have perhaps made sense if it had been for non-alcoholic beverages. If it had been naming compliant it could have been used as a redirect, but it ain't, so delete. Grutness...wha? 00:54, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] November 7[edit] Cat:South Africa rugby union biography stubs → Cat:South African rugby union biography stubs
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] {{Macedonia (region) -stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
keep it because it points Macedonia as a whole not as divided.Vlatko (talk) 13:49, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Oookay. Vlatkoto - firstly, as already explained, the stub type is already covered by other stub types, and is not needed for that reason. If, however, you wish to consider it from the the political viewpoint, consider how many problems it is likely to cause as a stub type. Consider an analogy. for much of its recent history, Pakistan was part of British India. Once the region won its hard-fought-for independence from Britain, it engaged in a series of bloody wars with India, and even today there is only an uneasy peace between the two nations, and decidedly mixed feelings towards the UK. Consider if you were a Pakistani, how would you feel if someone created a {{BritishIndia-stub}} template and added it to the article on your home town. Would you be likely to leave it there, or would you remove it? Would you feel inclined to leave a heated comment on the user page of the editor who had added the template? A similar problem exists here. As you are no doubt only too aware, the relationship between the Former Yugoslav Republic, Greece, and Bulgaria is not entirely friendly. The use of a template which attempts to indicate that the articles for the entire region belong together is not likely to do anything except engender edit wars and heated arguments. So the stub type isn't useful from the point of view of stub sorting, and would be detrimental to cooperation on Wikipedia in terms for its potential as an edit-war magnet. Grutness...wha? 23:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] {{China-health-stub}} / Cat:Chinese health stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{China-university-stub}} / Cat:China university stubs
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] November 9[edit] Cat:Harry Potter stubs/{{HarryPotter-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete - empty
[edit] November 10[edit] More footy cleanup
The result of the debate was rename
Her Pegship (tis herself) 19:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] November 11[edit] {{Stargate-stub}} / Category:Stargate stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] November 13[edit] Cat:Stub parent categories
The result of the debate was rename
Also, the heading on this page does say that stub categories without templates should be discussed here, so the lack of a dedicated template is not cause for change of venue. Her Pegship (tis herself) 16:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thanks. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 15:17, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] November 16[edit] Cat:Montserratian people stubs
The result of the debate was upmerge template, delete category Unproposed, but more importantly never likely to get anywhere near threshold. It would require almost 1.5% of Montserrat's population to each have stub articles for this to get to threshold. Currently contains three articles. For some reason, the creator also seems to assume that Cat:North American football (soccer) biography stubs would be the most sensible parent for this category. Delete. Grutness...wha? 00:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] November 21[edit] {{SouthAfrica-media-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete and create separate templates for tv and film
[edit] November 26[edit] {{Videogame-fict-stub}} and {{Videogame-char-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] November 27[edit] {{Bulgaria-settlement-stub}} / Cat:Bulgaria settlement stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] Art museum and gallery categories
The result of the debate was rename all cats
Grutness...wha? 05:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] {{Place-stub}} (redirect)
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] November 29[edit] Cat:Foo political party stubs
The result of the debate was rename per nom, with rev of North/West Africa per Grutness
and Cat:Ukraine political party stubs currently at WP:WSS/P. Waacstats (talk) 19:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] November 30[edit] {{Youtube-videos-stub}} (redlinked)
The result of the debate was delete Incorrectly named, redlinked, and unproposed, not to mention the fact that the usefulness of this is questionable, to say the least. If kept, it would need to be upmewrged and renamed to the naming-compliant {{YouTube-video-stub}}, but given that most youTube video articles are speedily deleted, the rationale behind having such a template is wanting. Delete. Grutness...wha? 00:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
[edit] {{Internet-meme-stub}} ((redlinked)
The result of the debate was delete.
[edit] "Europe" subtypes renaming
The result of the debate was no consensus
Per the 22 other subtypes of Cat:Europe stubs that use the form "European" (not counting the 'original usage' case of "European Union"), and well, the English language. Alai (talk) 06:36, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
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