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[edit] March 1[edit] Cat:Alberta school stubs
The result of the debate was upmerge
[edit] Cat:Asturias stubs
The result of the debate was keep
[edit] March 2[edit] {{singer-guitarist-stub}} → BOTH {{Singer-stub}} and {{Guitarist-stub}} / Category:Singer-guitarist stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{China-geo-stub}} → (something more precise); Cat:Mainland China geography stubs (possible deletion)
The result of the debate was rename/rescope to PRC-x-stub; delete Mainland China
I've come to the conclusion that part of the problem with a number of the stub types relating to "China" is the template names: China can denote the historical entity; PRC (including annexations) and RoC collectively; just the PRC, or even just mainland China, it's alleged. While the broadest definition might make sense in historical contexts, for most purposes we seem to be going with modern day countries (or what some people would prefer were the modern day countries). So I suggest we do one of two things: a) scope the stubs as the People's Republic, rename the stub templates to {{PRC-geo-stub}}, etc, and delete the "Mainland" category; or b) scope the stubs as the Mainland, rename to {{MainlandChina-geo-stub}}, and create corresponding "X of/in [Mm]ainland China" permcats. On the basis that several of the last have already been deleted in the past ("controversially", according to some sources), and there seems no great enthusiasm to recreate them, and also on the presumption that we scope geography, buildings, people etc on the basis of present-day boundaries of present-day sovereign states, my inclination is towards the former. However, my much stronger preference is for something consistent either way, and what I'd very much like to see is an end to edit-warring on these and other such issues, so I'm mainly hoping for a clear-cut outcome either way. Alai 02:07, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Here's all the "China-*-stub" templates I could find:
Note I haven't looked at these, much less tagged them: feel free to wade in, all. Alai 03:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{China-university-stub}} / Cat:China university stubs
The result of the debate was no clear consensus, defaulting to keep. Per the Chinese naming convention, scope China inclusively
[edit] March 3[edit] Cat:WWW stubs → Cat:World Wide Web stubs
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] March 5[edit] {{Aus-tv-channel-stub}} / Cat:Australians television channel stubs (sic) and {{Aus-tv-prog-stub}} (redlinked cat)
The result of the debate was speedy delete with agreement of creator
[edit] {{Poland coat of arms stub}} (no cat)
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] {{IR-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete, use talk page templates
[edit] March 6[edit] Cat:United States hiphop musical group stubs → Cat:United States hip hop musical group stubs
The result of the debate was rename to "American hip hop group stubs"
[edit] {{Indigenous-stub}} / Cat:Indigenous peoples stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] Cat:People's Republic of China road stubs
The result of the debate was upmerge
[edit] March 7[edit] {{art-history-stub}} → {{art-hist-stub}}
The result of the debate was move, keep redirect
[edit] Cat:Paleo-mammal stubs → Cat:Prehistoric mammal stubs
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] March 8[edit] Redirects {{Kyrg-stub}} and {{Kyrg-geo-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 10[edit] {{PNG-geo-stub}} → {{PapuaNewGuinea-geo-stub}}
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] Video game sub-types renames
The result of the debate was rename to X video game stubs, for consistency
Rename all to something making "video" (and/or "computer") explicit, hopefully in a way consistent with permcat's terminology. Alai 21:36, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{Washington-bio-stub}} / Cat:Washington people stubs
The result of the debate was upmerge
Oops. I didn't realize there was a stub proposal process. Bio stubs already exist for a few other US states, see Cat:American people stubs:
Keep {{Oregon-bio-stub}}. Used as part of a very active WikiProject that is in the middle of adding many articles on people important to the history of Oregon. I find it useful. Created in July 2005, it is populated with 60+ articles. Katr67 18:29, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if I got jumpy, but I've seen things added to deletion discussions with "might as well delete this one too" that never got tagged, so no one was notifed, and then they subsequently got deleted, leaving behind baffled editors. One example I can think of is 50 or so List of bands from (U.S. state) Foo, most of which were deleted out of process. Fortunately someone went back and relisted everything properly. In the end they got deleted again, but not before editors were able to go back and put the bands in the lists into the various state music categories instead. Anyway, I wouldn't have even known about this discussion except that I tagging something with the Washington stub today, and I would have hated to see the Oregon stub go without a discussion. (As for the Washington stub, WPWA doesn't seem to be using it so they should be given a chance to populate it and if they do so, then I would vote Keep). So... since someone from WPSS put your project tag on the Oregon stub, does that mean it is "safe"? Katr67 02:55, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Canada <noun> stubs → Canadian <noun> stubs
The result of the debate was no consensus
For the avoidance of 'stub grammar', and to match the numerous other "Canadian X stubs" subcats of Cat:Canada stubs. Alai 06:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
So, what's going on? Can I get a clearer answer? I'd like to close this out soon, and I'm not sure what the decision is. My opinion is that Canada --> Canadian is fine, but I can see how this could cause problems for other stubs. In general, I'd like to see a standard <noun> <blah> stubs pattern, as that would be the easiest to remember and would prevent strange Trinidad and Tobago-type adjective problems. Just my 2 cents... ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 18:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{Caucasia-stub}} / Cat:Caucasia-stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 11[edit] {{Runningbio-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] Cat:Republic of China university stubs / {{Taiwan-university-stub}}
The result of the debate was upmerge to China university stubs
[edit] March 12[edit] {{Duck-stub}} / redlinked cat
The result of the debate was upmerge
[edit] March 14[edit] {{PNG-stub}} → {{PapuaNewGuinea-stub}}
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] March 15[edit] {{DVD-stub}} (redlinked category)
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{ZA-telecoms-stub}} (redlinked category)
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 16[edit] {{User:Masky/Templates/Stubs/SMB}} / Cat:SMB stubs
The result of the debate was delete per WP:MFD
[edit] {{User:Masky/Templates/Stubs/LOL}} / Cat:LOL stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 17[edit] {{Stronghold-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 19[edit] {{Visual novel-stub}} / Cat:Visual novel stubs
The result of the debate was upmerge to anime game stubs (also rename template to conform to NG)
[edit] March 21[edit] {{Singapore-law-stub}} / Cat:Singapore law stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{Pennsylvania-geology-stub}} / Cat:Pennsylvania geology stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 22[edit] {{IE-law-stub}} / redlinked category
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 23[edit] {{Frasier-episode-stub}} / Cat:Frasier episode stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 24[edit] {{Malay-food-stub}} / Cat:Malaysian food stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 25[edit] Cat:Luxembourgish people stubs → Cat:Luxembourgian people stubs
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] Cat:Pre-1980 baseball pitcher stubs → Cat:Pre-1960 baseball pitcher stubs
The result of the debate was rename to "Pre-1940 baseball pitcher stubs"
[edit] {{BR-stub}} / Cat:WPBR stubs
The result of the debate was rename to BluegrassKY-stub; upmerge to Kentucky stubs
[edit] {{Gaelic-stub}} / Cat:Scottish Gaelic stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{British-boxing-bio-stub}} / Cat:British boxing biography stubs
The result of the debate was rename & change wording to be more inclusive
[edit] March 26[edit] {{industrial-design-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] Cat:Industrial design stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{General-church-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{Erie-stub}} / no cat
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{Kurdistan-sport-bio-stub}} / Cat:Kurdish sportspeople stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] March 30[edit] {{Pune-geo-stub}} / Cat:Pune city stubs
The result of the debate was upscope/rename to PuneDistrict-stub; upmerge
Now I have proposed this stub in Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2007/March. I have loosely justified the necessity of this stub to create a comprehensive information of City of Pune. And ready to face questions here
spacejuncky 04:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC) I find this whole thing a big mess. 1. The {{Konkan-geo-stub}} text is misleading. (Mumbai is part of the Konkan but not entirely). Secondly, I think it would be a good idea to have city-based stubs. Keep a criteria of the largest five cities in the state OR those that have a population of 1 million+. The reason I say so, is that if we have to create a Mumbai wikiproject, it would be easy to check and see which all articles need to expanded. Let's pause on the district-level stubs for now until a uniform solution in consultation with WP:INDIA. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
spacejuncky 05:12, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Taking a look at the stub category, I'd have to say that part of the problem is that spacejuncky was very scattershot in applying the stub marker. Take for example Baji Rao I. Leaving aside the fact that it isn't a stub article (there was an existing stub marker that I've removed as well). There's the fact that his notability is not restricted to the city of Pune. He's notable for a lot of other things done in a lot of other places. As such a Pune stub marker was too narrow in scope for that article. If it had been a stub article, a {{Maharashtra-stub}}, if it existed would have been appropriate, but not one for the city of Pune. Similar objections exist for the article Battle of Khadki as it is not a stub and it took place outside the city of Pune, albeit nearby. Kirkee is a stub article, but again, based on the text of the article, it is not inside the city of Pune and as such does not fall with the scope of a stub restricted to just the city. We don't include suburbs in the scope of our existing city stubs and there is no reason why Pune should be treated differently. Caerwine Caer’s whines 06:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
spacejuncky 06:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] March 31[edit] An electronics muddle
The result of the debate was what Caerwine said
all leading into Cat:Electronics stubs. Surely we don't need all three. I propose deleting the electro-stub redirect and either deleting or redirectling electro-stub to reduce the mess a little. Grutness...wha? 23:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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