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[edit] August 1[edit] Category:Taito stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{Afl-bio-1980s-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] {{Tv-autobio-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
I disagree. Autobiographical articles are inherently biased and SHOULD be monitored to ensure that the author isn't attempting to self-promote via WP. Writing your OWN article in Wikipedia is extremely bad form, and should be discouraged as much as possible! Propose to expand the usage of this template. Aug 1, 2007
Delete, unless there are plans for a {{Tv-cleanup-stub}}, or maybe a {{Tv-db-stub}} (for when a TV article needs to be speedily deleted and expanded). The premise of this stub is just plain silly. Let's be perfectly plain here, stub categories describe the subject, not the article, aside from the fact that the article is a stub. Instead, supplement {{Autobiography}} with {{Tv-stub}}. ~ JohnnyMrNinja 06:24, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 2[edit] {{India-edu-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] Cat:European figure skater stub
The result of the debate was speedy delete
[edit] {{Nevada-State-County-Highway-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete Template is unnecessary; very few, if no, articles that would require a stub template of this type. Easily replaced by Nevada-State-Highway-stub or US-road-stub. . Son 21:17, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 4[edit] {{Horticulture and gardening -stub}} / Cat:Horticulture and gardening stubs
The result of the debate was delete
[edit] Various US state Road stubs and their categories
The result of the debate was rename; do not parameterize US-road-stub
added 8/5/2007, all will put in Category:United States road stubs:
Rename all of these per WP:WSS/NG. {{Texas-road-stub}} is a redirect to {{Texas-State-Highway-stub}} so the content of the latter needs to be moved to the former and the latter deleted. master sonT - C 00:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cat:Estonian athletics biography stubs
The result of the debate was delete/upmerge
[edit] August 5[edit] Category:Magic: The Gathering stubs
The result of the debate was create "Collectible card games" cat and CCG-game-stub, delete Magic cat, upmerge Magic template Rename to the more useful Category:Trading card game stubs for all trading/collectible card games (or TCGs). Current Cat has only 18 stubs. Keep and upmerge {{MTG-game-stub}}, and create {{TCG-game-stub}}. Although redundant, TCG is a very easily recognizable abbreviation for trading card games, usually used to easily differentiate within franchises (i.e. Pokemon TCG, Yu-Gi-Oh! TCG, etc.).~ JohnnyMrNinja 23:44, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{American-biography-stub}}
The result of the debate was speedy delete
[edit] August 6[edit] {{TRNC-stub}}, {{Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus-stub}} (redirect) / Cat:Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus stubs
The result of the debate was speedy delete
[edit] {{Cue-sports-stub}} rename
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] August 7[edit] Cat:1950s country album stubs
The result of the debate was delete/upmerge
[edit] August 8[edit] {{Nicaraguan-protected-area-stub}} / Cat:Nicaraguan protected area stubs
The result of the debate was delete Unproposed and - given that there are only some 210 Nicaraguan geography stubs - not likely to come within a bull's roar of threshold. Template is misnamed, too - should be Nicaragua-protected-area-stub. The two most obvious options are renaming/upmerging or simply deleting. The latter is probably the better option - though Cat:Protected area stubs is a candidate for splitting, splitting out larger regions and those which actually have a large number of stubs would make far more sense than starting with ones which have very few. An upmerged {{CentralAm-protected-area-stub}} might be a viable compromise. Grutness...wha? 01:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 9[edit] Czech Republic geography stubs
The result of the debate was keep
I propose merger (redirection or deletion) of these two, because: Chrudim District and Pardubice Districts are a Districts of the Czech Republic. It is a second-level administrative subdivision of the country which is (from 2002) not fully used. Competences of districts are now low and districts became, let's say, traditional matter. Primary administrative subdivision of the country are Regions. We have stubs for all of them and they are just perfectly sufficient and more transparent. - Darwinek 12:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Unnecessary hierarchical level in Asian geo-stubs
The result of the debate was delete CAsia; keep SEAsia template, delete cat; keep both MEast This is a follow-up to a comment I made at W talk:WSS/P: With almost every country now having its own geo-stub template, I'd like to propose simplifying the Asian geography stub hierarchy by removing three subcontinental stub types that have largely outlived their usefulness -
Central Asia is the most straightforward. It has no template, and every stub in it is within one of its six nation-specific subcategories. "Central Asia" is a fairly amorphous term anyway - some definitions include parts of Russia - others exclude Mongolia. deletion of this will need no redirecting of templates and will only save effort all round. Southeast Asia is also a moderately vague term with several definitions. Currently this category contains fewer than 80 stubs, all but about three of which are either marked ith Brunei-geo-stub or Timor-geo-stub - the two remaining countries in the region that have not yet reached threshold. These templates can be redirected easily enough to Cat:Asia geography stubs, as can SEAsia-geo-stub. Middle East is also fairly vague as far as its definition is concerned, though probably it is a stronger candidate for retention - I've basically added it here as much as anything to test the waters and "complete the set". Currently this category contains fewer than 120 stubs, all but a handful of which are either marked ith Bharain-geo-stub, Kuwait-geo-stub, or Qatar-geo-stub - the three remaining countries in the region that have not yet reached threshold. These templates can be redirected easily enough to Cat:Asia geography stubs, as can MEast-geo-stub. So, to sum up - strong delete for the Central Asia category; moderate delete for the Southerast Asia one (with redirection of templates) and weak to mild delete of the Middle East one, with redirection of templates. Grutness...wha? 12:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 10[edit] {{Cprg-stub}}
The result of the debate was speedy delete
[edit] {{Mattress-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete Unproposed and malformed (check the "expand" link), and with no category. Pretty useless, too. Are we likely to have 60 stubs on mattresses? I don't see us even needing this one - {{furniture-stub}} suffices. Delete. Grutness...wha? 00:45, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 13[edit] {{California-county-route-stub}} / Category:California County Route stubs / {{California-County-Route-stub}} (redirect)
The result of the debate was keep due to WikiProject Delete and merge to {{California-road-stub}}, which has been expanded to accomodate the new articles. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 23:40, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Category:Narnia stubs
The result of the debate was rename
[edit] August 14[edit] {{Michigan-County-Designated-Highway-stub}} / Cat:Michigan county-designated highway stubs
The result of the debate was delete Given the recent Big Bang solution to the naming of the various by-state road stub types, this looks a little narrow and awkwardly-named. Suggest outright deletion, merging the articles into Cat:Michigan road stubs. Alai 06:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{INA stub}}
The result of the debate was delete Unproposed and...well, let's start with the name. INA can refer to a large number of things, so this template fails on that count. It also has a space rather than a hyphen, so that's two strikes against it. Above all that, do we really need a stub typed for a short period of one country's history? We don't generally have stubs diving up a country's history into separate periods - the only 20th century ones I can think of are Soviet-stub and Nazi-stub - both of which are likely to have significantly more stub articles than one on the Azad Hind/I.N.A. period of Indian history. And with only about 450 stubs, Cat:Indian history stubs is far from needing splitting. What's more, the permcat associated with this, Cat:Indian National Army only has 76 articles - 80% of which would need to be stubs before this could become a viable subtype. Simply not necessary. Delete. Grutness...wha? 01:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Also, without offence (honestly) I don't like the tone of the comment by Alai informing me my vote will be counted when it does come to vote. I am sure it doesn't meaning to be offensive and I'm sure probably blowing this out of proportion, but I have had extremely distasteful experiences of admins in the past behaving or talking like they have a higher or stronger right to edit or decide some courses of action over other users. Without being rude (or offending you Alai), I'd rather this did not happen here.Rueben lys 23:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 16[edit] {{Republika Srpska-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete First TRNC, now this. For the same reasons - or similar ones, at least - this should also be deleted. In fact, ISTR that a virtually identical stub type may have been deleted previously, in which case this would be speediable (the title of it, though, was different, and I can't seem to find details of it). Bosnia-Herzegovina - though a fairly shaky construct - is a federation, and any stubs relating to Srpska should naturally get BiH-stub. (Note - if kept, the namer needs changing, the formatting needs fixing, and it needs a category. So we'd pretty near have to start from scratch anyway). Grutness...wha? 02:25, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 17[edit] Cat:China geography stubs
The result of the debate was delete Created as a "placeholder" (i.e., kludge) measure to take the deprecated China-geo-stub in April. Since then, that template seems to have been used once. It would make more sense, in terms of surveillance of that template, to direct it straight to the main Cat:Geography stubs (which I check and re-sort daily) - that way, the any uses of the template that aren't initially noticed will be corrected within 24 hours, rather than sitting by themselves in an otherwise empty category. Grutness...wha? 13:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{LittleLeague-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete Unused stub template not listed anywhere. --MZMcBride 00:49, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 19[edit] Cat:Theater (structure) stubs → Cat:Theatre (structure) stubs
The result of the debate was rename This looks to have had a somewhat tortuous history of moves and duplicate templates, but as its parents are at Cat:theatre stubs and Cat:theatres, the latter variant should presumably be used. No objection to retaining separate {{theater-struct-stub}} with that spelling in the text for those delicates flowers who'd otherwise be driven off to Conservapedia by the sight of a non-Websterised spelling. Alai 04:47, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{Fort-Worth-stub}} / Cat:Fort Worth stubs
The result of the debate was delete Long-standing unused type, non-NG template. Alai 04:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] no template / Cat:Homeopathy stubs
The result of the debate was delete/listify Empty, so technically speediable, but being used as a list, so I thought I'd list it to try and clear up any confusion about its use. Suggest the page contents be moved to a WPJ sub-page, and the cat deleted. Alai 04:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 20[edit] Cat:United Kingdom metro stubs
The result of the debate was rename/rescope And also relatedly: the scoping statement implies this is about "rapid transit" in general, and the stub parent is Cat:rapid transit stubs. Rename, if that really is the intended scope. Alai 22:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{Undergroundstub}} (pseudo-redirect), {{LTstub}} / Cat:London Transport stubs for renaming/rescoping
The result of the debate was keep London Transport cat, rename to LondonTransport-stub, have London-tube-stub be child, delete undergroundstub Also with naming guidelines and ambiguity issues, and unilaterally rescopes the former {{London-tube-stub}} / Cat:London Underground stubs to be multi-mode. We should try to work out which axis we want, as having both at once will lead to some very small types (aside from the London Underground itself, which will be viably-sized with one, the other, or both in combination). At a minimum, rename to be NG-compliant; possible rescope (and further rename), if we're going to split by mode, rather than region. Alai 21:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{UK Tram Stub}} / Cat:UK Trams stubs, Cat:United Kingdom Tram Stubs
The result of the debate was rename Obvious NG and duplication issues. Also, per my comments at WP:WSS/P, it's far from clear whether we should be splitting {{UK-metro-stub}} by region, by mode, or given their fairly modest size, at all. Alai 17:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 21[edit] {{CartoonNetwork-stub}} / Cat:Cartoon Network stubs
The result of the debate was delete Two articles, and numerous discussions on the topic of TV material have concluded that by-programme-maker isn't a good axis. Delete. (Failing which, upmerge.) Alai 05:50, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cat:Slovak writer stubs
The result of the debate was upmerge One article, otherwise fine. Populate or upmerge. Alai 05:45, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cat:English football defender, 1990s birth stubs
The result of the debate was upmerge Highly undersized, for fairly obvious reasons. Suggest upmerger, while they're daily growin'. Alai 05:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 22[edit] {{2000s-rock-band-stub}} / Cat:2000s rock band stubs
The result of the debate was delete Currently has one stub in a rather ill-formed category dent hat is only borderline notable enough not to go to afd. No sign of any proposal. Consistent naming for the category would be Cat:2000s rock musical group stubs, only - given that there are very few articles in Cat:Rock musical group stubs and no other decades have been split off, this seems a poor subject for a split at the moment. Delete Grutness...wha? 02:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{Vietnamese-American-bio-stub}} / redlinked
The result of the debate was delete It is rare indeed for us to split bio-stubs by ethnicity, and for the most part controversial to do so - as well as being unnecessary and overly confusing, given the usual method of splitting is by nation then occuption (very few people have ethnicity as a major factor in their notability as opposed to what they actually do). In those instances where a person has two nationalities, fine - use two stub templates. In those where it is only ancestry, it's leaving the door open to unnecessary fractionated splitting. Delete. (note: if decision is to keep, it will need renaming to stub standards) Grutness...wha? 02:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 23[edit] {{Republic of Macedonia-geo-stub}}
The result of the debate was rename to RMacedonia Surprise, surprise, someone decided to unilaterally move {{Macedonia-geo-stub}} to a new title, without first checking the naming guidelines or proposing the rename. unfortunately, they chose a non-compliant name. Now, while I can understand the name "Macedonia" creates some problems with one neighbouring country, this new name is not a good one, for the reasons stated. In order not to create a diplomatic incident, may I suggest the solution used by the UN with the renaming of this to {{FYROMacedonia-geo-stub}}. It's probably worth checking the other Macedonian stubs to see whether similar botching has been made of them, too. Grutness...wha? 07:19, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] reversal of redirect {{BiH-geo-stub}} / {{BosniaHerzegovina-geo-stub}}
The result of the debate was reverse redirect Just a minor bit of housekeeping. At the moment BosniaHerzegovina-geo-stub redirects to the poorly-named BiH-geo-stub. I've not too much objection to the BiH name being kept, though it is a bit kludgy, but since we're now adding -bio-, -politician- etc stubs, it would be as well to use a better "main name". Grutness...wha? 07:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 27[edit] {{New-Jersey-road-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete I've moved this to {{NewJersey-road-stub}} per the naming guidelines, suggest we tidy up the redirect, by the same reasoning. Alai 17:20, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{Synchronization-stub}} / redlink
The result of the debate was delete Unproposed, with very few stubs likely in the subject covered (ot would require about 75% of the articles in Cat:Synchronization and its subcats to be stubs for it to reach threshold) - of which are alreadyeasily coverable by existing stub types. The template also links directly to permcats (surprisingly, though, not to Cat:Synchronization), which is poor stubbing practice. A more widely-scoped timekeeping-stub (or even time-stub) might be a better solution than this. delete or upscope. Grutness...wha? 00:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 28[edit] {{us-road-stub}} (redirect)
The result of the debate was delete all "us" and "uk" redirects Surely the definitive "SPUI-style" redirect. Only helpful if we were to systematically alias all "US-" templates as "us-", which I propose isn't worth the candle. Alai 14:15, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{South-US-road-stub}}, {{South-us-road-stub}} (redirect)
The result of the debate was delete I take it all back... These are now unused -- someone's obviously been busy! Since there's now per-state templates for everything in the Southern USCB region this is unnecessary, and I think ultimately counterproductive. Suggest we delete these, and return the regional cats to being containers amd upmerger targets, only. Alai 05:55, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] August 30[edit] Cat:Tibetan geography stubs → Cat:Tibet geography stubs
The result of the debate was rename Noticed while checking the details re the Jilin etc nomination below: not sure how this one slipped through with an adjectival form, but AFAIK it's the only geography stub category which doesn't use the noun. It also may need rescoping - irrespective of how we feel about Tibet one way or the other, this category should be for the current Tibet A.R. to keep it in line with the standard practice of using official top-level regions. The scoping of this category looks a little mpre muddy than that. Grutness...wha? 12:01, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] {{turkmen-bio-stub}}
The result of the debate was delete Incorrectly named redirect to a generic stub for Turkmenistan and I created the Turkmenistan-bio-stub just before discovering this redirect. It was used on 2 articles only but these have been sorted to the correct name and prior to proposing this for deletion had no links to it at all. At the very least it should be a reirect of the bio stub, but I think it should be deleted as it is redundent. Waacstats 08:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Template:Jilin-geo-stub, Template:Liaoning-geo-stub, Template:Heilongjiang-geo-stub (debatable: need to be improved or delete if no compromise are found)
The result of the debate was keep Those three templates can NOT be considered directly as a subcategory of the Category:Northeast China geography stubs those provinces were created long time before the artificial Chinese macro-region of Northeast China (having only a political-socio-economical aspect). Northeast China become famous since the controversial Northeast China Project. On the other side, Manchuria (see Category:Manchuria) has a historical and cultural aspect, and the term Manchuria although being considered as an offense by some Chinese peoples remain widely used by Western countries.
[edit] August 31[edit] {{Europe-tram-stub}}
The result of the debate was move to Euro-tram-stub Seems to have been accidentally created recently at the wrong name (should be Euro-tram-stub) - nip it in the bud with a quick rename? Grutness...wha? 00:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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