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Redirects for discussion (RfD) is the place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic redirects. Items sent here usually stay listed for a week or so, after which they are deleted by an administrator, kept, or retargeted. Note: If all you want to do is replace a currently existing, unprotected redirect with an actual article, you do not need to list it here. Turning redirects into fleshed-out encyclopedic articles is wholly encouraged at Wikipedia. Be bold. Note: Redirects should not be deleted simply because they do not have any incoming links. Please do not list this as a reason to delete a redirect. Redirects that do have incoming links are sometimes deleted as well, so it's not a necessary condition either. See When should we delete a redirect? Old discussions are archived at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log.
[edit] Before you list a redirect for discussion......please familiarize yourself with the following:
[edit] The guiding principles of RfD
[edit] When should we delete a redirect?The major reasons why deletion of redirects is harmful are:
Note that there could exist (for example), links to the URL "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attorneygate" anywhere on the internet. If so, then those links might not show up by checking for (clicking on) "WhatLinksHere" for "Attorneygate" -- since those links might "come from" somewhere outside Wikipedia. Therefore consider the deletion only of either really harmful redirects or of very recent ones. [edit] Reasons for deletingYou might want to delete a redirect if one or more of the following conditions is met (but note also the exceptions listed below this list):
[edit] Reasons for not deletingHowever, avoid deleting such redirects if:
[edit] Neutrality of redirectsNote that redirects are not covered by Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. This covers only article titles, which are required to be neutral (see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view#Article naming). Perceived lack of neutrality in redirects is therefore not a valid reason for deletion. Non-neutral redirects should point to neutrally titled articles about the subject of the term. Non-neutral redirects are commonly created for three reasons:
If a redirect is not an established term and is unlikely to be used by searchers, it is unlikely to be useful and may be nominated for deletion. However, if a redirect represents an established term that is used in multiple mainstream reliable sources (as defined by Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable sources), it should be kept even if non-neutral, as it will facilitate searches on such terms. Please keep in mind that RfD is not the place to resolve most editorial disputes. See also: Policy on which redirects can be deleted immediately. [edit] Closing notes
Nominations should remain open, per policy, about a week before they are closed, unless they meet the general criteria for speedy deletion, the criteria for speedy deletion of a redirect, or are not valid redirect discussion requests (e.g. are actually move requests). [edit] How to list a redirect for discussionTo list a redirect for discussion, follow this two-step process:
[edit] Current list[edit] November 8[edit] Immaculate conception seminary
Delete: the page this redirects to is about a school in New Jersey, but all the pages that link to the redirect are talking about a seminary in New York. The one in New York does not have an article, as far as I can tell. Auntof6 (talk) 19:47, 8 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] 2008 Soccer Championship[edit] Aerial combat engagements between cyprus and turkey
Moving this here from AfD, where it was nominated for deletion by Socrates2008 (talk). The rationale was "Pointless redirection of a long, orphaned article name." I am neutral. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 15:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Vichy liberalismMoving this here from AfD, where it was originally sent by The Four Deuces (talk · contribs). Rationale was "The term was used by a writer in an article. It does not refer to liberals in the Vichy Republic but is a sarcastic reference to American liberals. Not notable." I am neutral. Olaf Davis (talk) 09:25, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Miss World 2011Delete the "Miss World 2011" article. The event is too far away in the future to have some verified facts included, other than the assumption that it will take place in 2011. Joey80 (talk) 06:01, 8 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Miss International 1982Delete the "Miss International 1982" page. The redirect goes to the person, the winner of the said event but the "Christie Claridge" article does not contain extensive info about the event. The "Miss International 1982" is currently linked via the "Miss International" template. However, no attempt has been currently made to write about the actual event since by looking at the template (and the fact that the link is colored blue instead of red when the article is non-existing), one might be led to the assumption that the 1982 article is already in existence and complete. Joey80 (talk) 05:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Ivan Grabovacdeletion. No mention on article to explain why redirect exists, Google search couldn't confirm Boleyn2 (talk) 20:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] November 7[edit] Thomas gogginUnnecessary redirect Jezhotwells (talk) 15:58, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] AgüeiraAgüeira is the name of a river in Galicia, Spain, no reason to redirect it to a Portuguese village Jezhotwells (talk) 15:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Mad at the world (disambiguation)Unnecessary redirect Jezhotwells (talk) 15:46, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Jam hot
Unnecessary redirect Jezhotwells (talk) 15:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Good old boat magazineUnnecessary redirect Jezhotwells (talk) 15:19, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] List of fatal, unprovoked shark attacks in Australia
Unlikely redirect Jezhotwells (talk) 15:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Siratal Saif InternationalUnnecessary redirect, anyone typing in first two words will find article Jezhotwells (talk) 14:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] 2009–10 Coupe de France 5th through 7th Rounds
Unlikely redirect Jezhotwells (talk) 14:42, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Daily failRedirect actually a sarcastic nickname for the paper NellieBly (talk) 06:34, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 6[edit] F.I.R.-Fairyland in Reality (F.I.R. album)
Delete. Redirect is left over from a page move made because the article name was unnecessarily disambiguated. The old name is not a likely search argument, and I have cleaned up all links that used the redirect. TJRC (talk) 20:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Gorka José Unda VelascoA non-notable player who plays for the Real Madrid's third team (Real Madrid C). This article should have been deleted in the first place instead of made into a redirect. Geregen2 (talk) 19:30, 6 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] 81 pointsDelete. Redirect has nothing to do with the linked article except the number of points that Kobe Bryant scored in one game. I don't believe it belongs. Manway (talk) 02:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] الشيعهDelete. Improperly applied PROD tag says the following: "Not Encyclopedia. Translated text =
Since prods are for articles only, I'm bringing this redirect here for deletion discussion. I do not see any utility whatsoever for this redirect. 147.70.242.54 (talk) 00:55, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Battle of DoreDelete. The recent AfD found a strong consensus that there was no evidence of a Battle of Dore, and the outcome was that the article was deleted. However, the admin deleting it recreated the page as a redirect to Dore, explaining here that "An entry that makes the creation of duplicate articles less likely by redirecting a misnomer to a correct term. Evidently somebody thought there was a Battle of Dore because there is a memorial stone in the village. By creating the redirect, we prevent others from making the same mistake, and we help people who also think there was a battle to find the relevant information." But this is not a misnomer, and there is no evidence of any kind of such a battle. The "memorial stone in the village" makes no claim of one. As stated at the 2nd para of this page, "Turning redirects into fleshed-out encyclopedic articles is wholly encouraged at Wikipedia". I see no difference between Battle of Dore and Synod of Dore, Palace of Dore, Bishop of Dore... they are all fictional and by existing can only mislead and (in the first case) encourage the recreation of an article we have decided to delete. Moonraker2 (talk) 00:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 5[edit] Wheel of Fortune Wheel Configuration
Same as below. The article on the Wheel's configuration was removed. I'm sure JTRH wants to get rid of this too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 23:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Wheel of Fortune (The wheel's configuration)
Same as below. The article on the Wheel's configuration was removed. I'm sure JTRH wants to get rid of this too. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 23:00, 5 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Wheel of Fortune (List of puzzle categories)
No such list exists at the target article; and it shouldn't since the list was consentually deleted. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Wheel of Fortune wheel configuration
The wheel's configuration isn't mentioned in the article, and it shouldn't be because there would be no way to source it. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 4[edit] Google cacheSuggest deletion unless anyone considers the Google cache to be notable and wants to fill in a stub. As raised on Talk:Web cache, the Google cache is not mentioned in that article, leading to confused readers (like me). It's also not really a web cache in the sense that that article defines it (automated things like Squid caches that are transparent to the user) - if anything it's a temporary variation on the web archive. Old Man of Storr (talk) 00:30, 4 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Manuel Pérez Rodríguez
Should be deleted. All the sources I could find refer to him as Rodrigo, not Rodriguez. There was a stray article that listed him as Rodriguez, then both Rodrigo and Rodriguez articles got merged into the Rodriguez one, creating a mess. I cut-n-paste-moved Rodriguez article back to Rodrigo, keeping the redirect for now. In the end only Rodrigo article should stay. Geregen2 (talk) 15:21, 4 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Emily Booth (disambiguation)I think this should be deleted, it does not redirect to a disambiguation page; there is only one article on WP on an Emily Booth. was PRODded and prod2ed before anon rv and made this a redirect to only target. Boleyn3 (talk) 19:05, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Phil Boyer (disambiguation)I think this should be deleted, it does not redirect to a disambiguation page, so could cause confusion. Was PRODded before anon rv and made this a redirect to only target. Boleyn3 (talk) 19:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] David Broome (disambiguation)I think this should be deleted, it does not redirect to a disambiguation page, so could cause confusion. Was PRODded before anon rv and made this a redirect to only target. Boleyn3 (talk) 19:28, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 3[edit] G-loading[edit] Joseph SquittiDelete this redirect. This person is only notable for having been mayor of Alleyn-et-Cawood, which prompted an AfD previously and led to it becoming a redirect. Now that he no longer is the mayor, all notability is gone and there are no references to him in the target article. -- P 1 9 9 • TALK 14:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] 2011 Bahrain Grand Prix
Delete, as per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 September 25#2011 Australian Grand Prix. This one must have been missed from the bulk RFD. Falcadore (talk) 06:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] GLAMCopied from AFD placed by Gimme danger (talk · contribs) with rationale: "Misleading redirect. No mention of "GLAM" on LAMP page, only link is from glam (disambiguation) where it is defined as an unrelated acronym. To find mention in the page one must go back to 2006. The term is now used in a Wikipedia space essay recommended to new users, making it even more in violation of the principle of least astonishment." Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 05:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Wayback Machine/redirectsThis redirect is on a sub-page of Wayback Machine and is unlikely to be of any use. allen四names 03:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 2[edit] Jak 4This related to video games-- "Jack" is a main character in a running series. However, a game of this name was NEVER made and its title was changed to what it is to be sold as in the near future before any verifiable claims came along, and the current game name already has its slew of redirects and the like. ♪ daTheisen(talk) 23:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Ila (mythology)I moved Ila (mythology) to Ila (Samoan mythology) as character Ila appears in Hindu mythology too (see Ila (Hinduism)). This redirect is not needed. All links to Ila (mythology), relinked. Redtigerxyz Talk 16:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
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