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[edit] Suggestions for FPC and VPC A representative photo featuring Native American craft, but needs some restoration, particularly the woman's head to the left. Brand[t] 18:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC) - Articles this image appears in
- Warm Springs Indian Reservation, Confederated Tribes of Warm Springs
- Creator
- Suggested by
- Brand[t] 18:49, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Seconder
Original - Waterfalls near Mallwyd, Wales It is simply a beautiful picutre that stands out on the Wales article and helps to both draw a person's attention and gives a good view of the Welsh country. - Articles this image appears in
- Wales, Mallwyd
- Creator
- Tivedshambo|
- Suggested by
- Sbrianhicks (talk) 03:18, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Thanks for your suggestion. While this is of value to the article, it would not succeed at FPC. The quality is just not high enough. In particular the blown highlights are far too significant, especially in the sky, but also I believe in the water. This type of photo, even when high quality, tends to struggle a bit anyway as the falls themself do not appear that outstanding and there's no other clear landmarks, and thus they are commonly met with a response such as 'could be taken anywhere', a comment on the generic nature of the image, not a question of it actually being of where it claims. --jjron (talk) 13:40, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
This image does a good job of illustrating the shape, external structure, and colour (before maturity) of the cones of the Korean Fir. It is a featured picture on Wikimedia Commons (link) and on the Turkish Wikipedia (link). Another version, which is smaller, is featured on the Polish Wikipedia (link). I am no expert in image quality, so I would like to find out whether this image may be FP-worthy according to Wikipedia's standards. - Articles this image appears in
- Abies koreana, Fir
- Creator
- Jan Mehlich
- Suggested by
- –BLACK FALCON (TALK) 21:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Seconder
Original - Edible seaweed farming in Nusa Lembongan, Bali, Indonesia (photo 2009) Good photograph - Articles this image appears in
- Seaweed
- Creator
- Jean-Marie Hullot also on en wiki Jmhullot (talk)
- Suggested by
- Snowman (talk) 11:54, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- I'd like to see some information in the caption about what specifically is being shown here. You could add it to Edible seaweed. The image quality is good enough. A little fill flash would have helped lighten the guy's face. I think a highlight reduction has been performed on the sky but the haloing is only minor. I'd say it has a good shot. Noodle snacks (talk) 01:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
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- I have added some details in the commons image description gleaned from the wiki article. It looks like she is picking seaweed shoots and collecting them in a basket floating on an inner-tube. Do you think is is reasonable to add this? I have also amended the caption. Snowman (talk) 11:54, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
important part of Eastern Bloc history and great composition. - Articles this image appears in
- History of Poland, Lech Wałęsa, History of Poland (1989–present), People's Republic of Poland, Polish Round Table Agreement, Round table (furniture), History of Poland (1945–1989), History of Solidarity,
- Creator
- BaomoVW
- Suggested by
- Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 03:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- There appear to be undocumented changes between this and the original. They will need to be documented before any nomination. Noodle snacks (talk) 01:17, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Original - map from the Battle of Mount Sorrel, a minor First World War battle of June 1916. I was surprised not to find a single WWI trench map amongst the FPs. There are a number in the commons that have had no restoration work done to them but are high resolution uploads. File:Battle of Messines - plannig map.jpg, File:Battle of the Canal du Nord - 1st Canadian Division planning map.jpeg, File:Battle of the Canal du Nord - battle map (Sept 1918).jpg, File:Battle of Hill 70 - local planning map.jpg, File:First Battle of Passchendaele - barrage map.jpg are a number of examples of higher resolution files for more notable battles. Seeking suggestions on which is a most appropriate as an FPC. - Articles this image appears in
- Battle of Mount Sorrel
- Creator
- n.d.
- Suggested by
- Labattblueboy (talk) 21:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- I'm not sure I can offer a huge amount of input, but geocoding the image would add value in my opinion. Noodle snacks (talk) 03:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Seconder
Original - Data plate of a preserved Bentley BR2 aero engine A close-up of a 1917 aircraft engine data plate taken recently at a museum by myself. Would be interested on thoughts on this image, I tried to capture the essence of it. - Articles this image appears in
- Bentley BR2
- Creator
- Nimbus227
- Suggested by
- Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 20:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- I love these old rotaries! I think it's a very attractive picture, the main technical problem being flash glare. I know shooting pieces in a dimly lit museum, often behind glass, is no easy thing. I suspect the best approach is to use a lens with a fast aperture, or one with good stabilization to allow you to get sharp pictures without the flash. As far as encyclopedic value, I think this image would struggle if nominated because people would want to see a wider view of the whole engine. Or, sometimes you can choose to focus on a single element of the engine, the crankshaft, pushrods, etc. The data plate is good to shoot for informational purposes, but is less interesting by itself, in my opinion. Hope that helps.Fletcher (talk) 05:19, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- It doesn't really have EV (encyclopaedic value) because we can't see the engine. Noodle snacks (talk) 02:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks folks, glad I came here first!! I have a fair collection of engine photos, very difficult to get the shot you want in museums sometimes. Gives me some pointers though, will have a look at some others. Cheers Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 20:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- The best images will have the whole engine in the frame. Noodle snacks (talk) 01:16, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Original - Quiver tree ( Aloe dichotoma) in Namibia Edit1 with noise reduction to sky good image - Articles this image appears in
- Aloe dichotoma
- Creator
- Le Grand Portage
- Suggested by
- Snowman (talk) 15:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- I'd support it, but you should do a noise reduction on the background. Noodle snacks (talk) 02:56, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
- I've attempted a NR on the sky...Edit1. Agreeing with above, the main thing I didn't like was noise in the sky. Otherwise should be worth a nom. Fletcher (talk) 16:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
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- OK. Modified version nominated for FP. Snowman (talk) 23:51, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Was the noise reduction to only the sky, or did the software modify all of the image? Snowman (talk) 23:53, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- I did several selective blurs to different regions of the sky. Should have left the tree alone (it was only the sky that bothered me). Fletcher (talk) 00:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
Nominated at FPC. --jjron (talk) 13:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Original - Five soldiers silhouetted while on the march during the First World War Battle of Broodseinde Ernest Brooks was one of the leading photographers of the First World War. Unlike many of the First World War photos this one is a high resolution scan and also happens to be one of Brooks' more famous images. The silhouetted contrast with the light shinning through the clouds is different from most war photography. - Articles this image appears in
- Battle of Passchendaele, Battle of Broodseinde and Ernest Brooks (photographer)
- Creator
- Ernest Brooks
- Suggested by
- Labattblueboy (talk) 02:55, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Lovely shot, poor reproduction. A great pity, as the print looks to have been a good one, just not very well archived; it was reasonably well scanned, but compressed way too much. Repairing the dust and damage would be a real chore as it's hard to tell damage from jpeg artifact. An uncompressed version at this size might have been a potential candidate. Which brings me to the copyright situation: are we sure this is PD by virtue of being owned by the British government? mikaultalk 08:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
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- I don't think an uncompressed image will be available short of ordering a digital print from the IWM or NLS. The image will certainly be PD. The photo was under crown copyright as it was created while Brooks' was employed as the British official war photographer. --Labattblueboy (talk) 15:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Right, dim of me not to see the crown copyright. FWIW the image probably has enough value in its current state to nominate at WP:VP but the compression artifacts are certainly enough to scupper an FP candidacy. Looking at the source site, they're enough to ruin a detailed viewing there, too. I really don't understand the point of it in that context. mikaultalk 18:51, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I may consider getting a IWM to do a scan of the negative. If I do, I'll be back. --Labattblueboy (talk) 22:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- The scan this jpeg was made from would do, probably still on file so a nicely-worded email might do the trick. If you get it, let me know and I'll fix it up ready for FPC for you. mikaultalk 00:27, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Original - Loggerhead Shrike in Texas, USA Good photograph - Articles this image appears in
- Loggerhead Shrike
- Creator
- Terry Ross
- Suggested by
- Snowman (talk) 15:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Striking as a thumbnail, with a great perch and nice neutral background and lighting, this is much less rewarding at full size. I guess it's been heavily cropped from the full 10MP frame and possibly underexposed/corrected, making for a noisy sky and grainy-looking dark areas. A real pity, as one of these issues could be partially fixed well-enough for FPC, but not both. mikaultalk 19:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
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- I mean it looks unfixable to FPC standards; you could fix the background but on the bird you'd still have a grain/detail payoff to deal with that doesn't look fixable to me. mikaultalk 21:00, 7 December 2009 (UTC) <edit> Sorry, I should add this would probably pass at WP:VP as it is. mikaultalk 21:05, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
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- I think that is it more difficult to fix than I first thought. Thank you for your comments. Incidentally, what software would fix the graininess in the sky? Snowman (talk) 23:32, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
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- You could use a number of dedicated noise reduction programs – noise ninja or similar – but you'd only get good results by also using layers and masks in something like Photoshop, to selectively sharpen and soften the relevant parts. Personally, for an image like this, I think it's an affectation to go to such lengths. In print, there'd not be any grain... as it's way too small a file to make a print big enough to see it. As I say, it should pass at Valued Pictures as-is, maybe just a tiny crop from the left. mikaultalk 08:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I think square images are the best shape for showing in gallerys, so I think I will leave it as a square. Snowman (talk) 15:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Crops don't bother me, agree that it looks like a tight crop. I don't think it would pass (FPC) on quality grounds. Noodle snacks (talk) 02:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for comments. I overestimated the possibilities to repair it to FP level. Snowman (talk) 12:01, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
- Getting close enough to get a featured shot of a wild bird reliably is quite difficult without very expensive equipment unfortunately. Noodle snacks (talk) 12:34, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Nice Resolution - Articles this image appears in
- Sega, Dreamcast, History of video game consoles (sixth generation)
- Creator
- Asim18
- Suggested by
- Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 16:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Nice, crisp, and good composition. Exceptional lighting and no non-free logos visible on the game. I'd say give it a go. ZooFari 16:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
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- You mean, except for the Dreamcast logo itself, right. I'm pretty sure that got copyrighted. Nuclear Lunch Detected Hungry? 06:49, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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- The Dreamcast logo does not meet the threshold for copyright. ZooFari 06:52, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Really, wow... guess I got pwned there... Nuclear Lunch Detected Hungry? 15:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Since when? It's a specific, stylized spiral, not just a simple geometric design. I think it could definitely be argued to be under copyright. And FWIW, we've got the logo under fair-use. Thegreenj 18:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- If you say so. ZooFari 19:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
This is a gorgeous action shot of an Icelandic in a show ring. I've never nominated a picture for FP, so I would like to know if this image would have any chance? - Articles this image appears in
- Icelandic horse
- Creator
- Taken by Dagur Brynjólfsson, uploaded by Pitke from Flikr
- Suggested by
- Dana boomer (talk) 23:21, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Probably problems with motion blur/softness and small size.
- (edit conflict) Nice image. There are some flaws that might prevent successful nomination though. The horse is soft (not sharpened) and suffers blown highlights (overexposed areas) and it kind of seems like the face is out of focus. ZooFari 00:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
One of the most important images in recent history. Despite small size, its irreplaceable, and critically important. - Articles this image appears in
- Cuban Missile Crisis
- Creator
- The CIA
- Suggested by
- Nuclear Lunch Detected Hungry? 18:06, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Unlikely to succeed due to the small size and limited EV. ZooFari 23:42, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Small file size is kind of excusable, as despite the very large-format cameras used, it would have been taken from 60,000 feet or more and would have resolved only very slightly better detail than this on film. Considering the image placement at the moment and the fact that it isn't an iconic image in its own right, I'd say the "limited EV" comment was fair judgement. If it was the defining image of the crisis, it would be the lead image in the article. Placing it at Lockheed U2 or reconnaisance or other places where it also has relevance would increase EV, but not perhaps to FPC required levels. This is because it's not unique; another image of the same place (and better annotated) is already at the latter article and is not only more informative, it's clearly presented as the defining image of the U2 reconnaissance missions over Cuba. Interesting though, viz. my first point, that the higher resolution there doesn't yield any more information than your nomination here. mikaultalk 20:52, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Original - The Republican Guard of the national army of Kazakhstan Don't know how I found my way to this, but when I saw it, I said "wow, this is a great image." Large, so can be downsampled into a crisp image, also likely few replacements that are free. - Articles this image appears in
- Kazakhstan Military of Kazakhstan Republican Guard (Kazakhstan)
- Creator
- Jim Varhegyi, U.S. Air Force
- Suggested by
- Nuclear Lunch Detected Hungry? 19:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Interesting photo-- cropped a bit tight on the left and top, but interesting. Could be useful in illustrating other articles, such as Military parade, or [[At attention]. Spikebrennan (talk) 15:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Due to the tight crop and large amounts of JPEG artifacts, it's not likely to succeed FPC. You could try VPC, but you might want to try adding it to another article as suggested above. ZooFari 23:33, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Comment: View of line up with perspective that takes some concentration to figure out. Snowman (talk) 15:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Original - Frontal view of the Sveti Sedmochislenitsi Church in Sofia, Bulgaria Good lighting and detail. - Articles this image appears in
- Sveti Sedmochislenitsi Church, potentially more
- Creator
- TodorBozhinov
- Suggested by
- Todor→Bozhinov 21:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Nicely squared-up, could do with a small crop from the right to center it properly, detail is ok but lighting is a problem. A bit earlier in the day would likely have seen the sun a little more on the front; as it is you only get a hint of the colour and detail that could have been. Check out the existing architecture FPs and you'll see good, even lighting is a very important requirement. mikaultalk 22:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Lighing could be better. Snowman (talk) 15:17, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Useful encyclopedic shot, can't really see much wrong with it. There's some decent detail and, behold, no cars in the foreground (which is hard to capture in daylight even on a Sunday afternoon). - Is the guy to the right distracting? I think he adds a kind of scale to the photo.
- Also, I'd like to know whether the shadow cast over the building is an issue.
- A frontal shot without the domes of the Alexander Nevsky Cathedral seen in the background is not possible, if that can be perceived as a problem.
- Articles this image appears in
- Politics of Bulgaria, National Assembly of Bulgaria, Tsar Osvoboditel Boulevard, Konstantin Jovanović, potentially a lot more
- Creator
- TodorBozhinov
- Suggested by
- Todor→Bozhinov 21:11, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Answering your questions in turn: the guy isn't a problem, generally one or two people can be beneficial as you say; the shadow is a big problem, see comment on previous nomination; although you may find reviewers forgiving about background buildings etc they're never a plus point, and unless your image is exceptional in other respects that sort of minor issue can tip the balance away from FP promotion. There's some distortion making the building appear curved, which I'd suggest was the most important issue after lighting. mikaultalk 22:58, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Fo me the shadow on building and dark foreground spoils photograph. Snowman (talk) 15:17, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
High resolution and great brightness. - Articles this image appears in
- Golden trout, Golden Trout Wilderness, Mount Whitney Fish Hatchery
- Creator
- Rayfound
- Suggested by
- Secret Saturdays (talk) 01:58, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
Nice pic but I'm not sure about it, not only being a juvenile but being held like that, reminds me more of an angling magazine shot than an encyclopedia illustration. That would be the killer issue at FPC, although you'd also probably find the higher resolution only serves to show up a slight lack of definition common to compact cameras, and find it marked down for being a bit soft. That it's a nice-looking fish, generally, isn't enough. mikaultalk 22:47, 30 November 2009 (UTC) - Seconder
Original - A pair of Helix pomatia shortly before mating. This is an amazing photo. Not only would it be hard to capture, but it is such good quality and shows so much detail. It also illustrates how these particular snails get down and dirty ahah, which adds greatly to the article. (This is my first picture one btw, so might not have done it all correctly). - Articles this image appears in
- Helix pomatia, Love dart
- Creator
- the creator of the image, where possible using the format Gugganij
- Suggested by
- IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 17:47, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Wonderful detail, questionable EV. Also, I fixed it, but new submissions go up top. Nezzadar [SPEAK] 01:05, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'd say it has a good shot, but I would dispute the hard to capture part - snails are about as easy as it gets. Noodle snacks (talk) 03:10, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- As one of only two images in the article, I'd say it had decent EV. Image quality is ok althogh composition could be improved with a crop from the right and more space (if available) at the bottom. mikaultalk 22:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Original - St James Independent School, Twickenham, London (photo 3 January 2009) good photograph, high resolution. - Articles this image appears in
- St James Independent Schools
- Creator
- Jim Linwood
- Suggested by
- Snowman (talk) 00:11, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Very blurry/noisy, either by downsampling gone wrong or a very shaky hand. Look at the rightmost quarter of the image for the best example of this.Nezzadar [SPEAK] 06:26, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
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- I see what you mean on the full size image. The noise is not so apparent at 50% size, which is still big enough for FPC. Snowman (talk) 11:10, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
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- I think you'd have a shot. The noise and blown highlights are the main issues that I can see, otherwise fairly detailed etc. You could try a noise reduction on those areas. Noodle snacks (talk) 22:39, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Its rectangular shape could indicate that the image has been cropped. I have not got the right tools to fix the noise or I do not know how to operate GIMP well enough. Snowman (talk) 21:39, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Original - A video presentation of F-16 Fighting Falcon by USAF A brief presentation of the subject and a valuable video footage, encyclopedic. Is submited here per videos = motion pictures. - Articles this image appears in
- F-16 Fighting Falcon, Fighter aircraft
- Creator
- U.S. Air Force
- Suggested by
- Kozuch (talk) 08:34, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- Blatant ad for the F16, will fail nom on NPOV grounds. Also, quality sucks... Nezzadar [SPEAK] 06:24, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
Original - Australian Pelican ( Pelecanus conspicillatus) swimming well lit, looks natural - Articles this image appears in
- Australian Pelican
- Creator
- Geoff Penaluna
- Suggested by
- Snowman (talk) 15:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
- Comments
- I think you'd have trouble because of the badly blown highlights. Noodle snacks (talk) 05:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- I see what you mean. Snowman (talk) 09:15, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
- Seconder
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