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[edit] November 24 [edit] People flagging new page I have tried to create a page twice for Joseph E Prince. It has been flagged twice! The last time the comment was that we were creating a "non existant" film. Liberation Saturday was premiered at the 2008 nSan Diego Black Film Festival. Photos at liberationsaturday.com and cam be verified at imdb.com, the most widely used data base of fims on the internet. This is ridiculous!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deedee485 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - Liberation Saturday may not meet our guidelines on notability (importance or significance) for inclusion, and therefore actor Joseph E. Prince is not notable per guidelines on actors. You may ask the deleting administrator (User:PMDrive1061, according to the page logs) to userfy the page into one of your user subpages so that you might work on it undisturbed, until you can make it to an acceptable quality for inclusion. Please also read Notability, YFA, and WP:NOT. Intelligentsium 03:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- P.S.: IMDb is not considered a reliable source. All articles must be verifiable with properly cited sources, to prove any claims of notability. This is especially important if the subject of your article is a living person. Intelligentsium 03:19, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Wiki main page bias towards an individuals home country? Hello All, I have the Wikipedia main page as my home page as I like to start my day with 'Today's feature article', 'Did you know...', and 'On this day...' but what I have been noticing is a large quantity of content and articles with Australian subject matter. I do live in Australia, but I'm more interested in a world focus, not just Australian history and news. I was wondering if the Wiki software recognises that I am living in Australia and gives me more Australian content for this reason, and is there a way that I can switch that bais off? Thanks in advance. MST —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.24.203.240 (talk) 03:49, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - What exactly are you seeing that is Australian? Grsz11 04:12, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Nothing out of the ordinary. But there are 20 million Aussies, and a world population of 6 bn+. So seeing Aussie content regularly made me wonder if there was a bias towards giving people more content from their country of origin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MST762 (talk • contribs) 06:06, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - I can't speak for any bias (real or perceived), but everyone who looks at the main page sees the same main page. There is no change in appearance based on the viewer's location. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- The closest thing on Wikipedia to a Main Page for Australia is Portal:Australia. Just now the (real) Main Page doesn't appear to have much if any content about Australia. If it had a lot of Australia content recently, that was probably just a fluke. For more information about the process Wikipedia uses to create the Main Page, see WP:EIW#Main. There are some Main Page alternatives but none listed there are specific to Australia. --Teratornis (talk) 19:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for responses, just a fluke period I guess. MST —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.24.203.240 (talk) 05:27, 25 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Uploading an image A link to an article is no longer in existence. It is an electronic version of a newspaper. Luckily i have the image on my PC. How do i include this in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lag3rman (talk • contribs) 05:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - It probably can't be included, as unless the newspaper edition is very very old it is most likely copyrighted. Uploaded it to Wikipedia (or to another website, and having Wikipedia link to it) would constitute a copyright violation. It's not necessary that sources used on Wikipedia be available online, however, so a citation to an out of print and offline newspaper article is fine. But it's good that you have an electronic copy; if anyone questions the source, you can email it to them. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:23, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I've already done quite a few edits, and have an account 4 days old. I'm still NOT an autoconfirmed user. I need to upload special pictures for the articles I'm editing since they're under the risk of being deleted. but I can't, since im' not an autoconfirmed user... How can I be one?492star (talk) 16:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - You won't be autoconfirmed until 19:11 (UTC)! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Using the Wayback Machine and Wikipedia:Citing sources#Dead links. See also WP:AUTOCONFIRM for details about your user status. --Teratornis (talk) 19:12, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Editing A few months ago, I returned from a long block, and I haven't really made that many edits since then. What's a good way to find edits to make? And what's a good way to make a lot of edits? jc iindyysgvxc (my contributions) 09:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - Well, Wikipedia isn't about making a lot of edits! It's about developing an encyclopedia. If you want suggestions about what you could usefully do, here is a list of tasks which need doing - articles which need to be wikified, updated, rewritten using the Manual of Style, cleaned-up, have information verified, be written in neutral language, be expanded or created. There's always a lot that needs doing! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:21, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] No more pictures My Wikipedia no longer displays pictures, I may pressed the wrong button while setting a picture as a background. How do I unblock pictures. Cpilot (talk) 12:17, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - There are a few possibilities why no images are displaying on Wikipedia for you. One is that you are accidentally blocking all images or images from Wikipedia in your browser settings, or from an add-on like Adblock. Another possibility is that your ISP is filtering images, either because you are viewing Wikipedia from a work computer, or you are in a country whose ISPs filter content.
- It would be helpful to have some more information on the problem. What web browser are you using and what version? Are you using any adblocking extensions like Adblock? Can you try other websites to see if you can load images there? Can you try a different web browser to see if images on Wikipedia using it? Thanks! --Mysdaao talk 13:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- My guess is you have Firefox and may need (possibly some details depend on the version): Tools - Options - Content - Load images automatically - Click the "exceptions" button and delete http://upload.wikimedia.org from the list - Highlight - "Remove site" button. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Question about Actor/Actress articles. I am trying to create an article on Brooke Anne Smith, but I do not know what exactly I'm supposed to put in besides Filmography in regards to making the Article and keeping it from being deleted? Namely, what are the contexts that would make the subject identifiable, and what is "enough"? I'm asking because a previous article for her was deleted due to it not having enough context to identify the subject. As for why I am thinking of creating one, I just felt that it didn't seem right that she wouldn't get an article when other actors/actresses have. I mean, I can understand if absolutely nothing about her is known (like Suzetta Minet, for example), but there is a few stuff that is known about her. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:23, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - Wikipedia:Your first article gives you a pretty good overview on what to take care for and you can use the article wizard as well which takes you through creation step by step. Regards SoWhy 12:36, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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- If you ask me, the deletion you refer to (no context) was incorrect, as there was sufficient context to identify the subject. However, as PhantomSteve points out, Smith may not be notable enough for an article. She seems to be mostly known for her role in Max Keeble's Big Move. If this was a major role, and she also had other significant roles, then an article may be warranted. Regards, decltype (talk) 14:06, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Should I add article about PADsynth or not? Hi to all. I would like to add a short article about PADsynth [1], an synthesis algorithm invented by me. I am aware about "No original research" policy and this is the reason why I ask you here. Despite of this policy, I believe that are some reasons for the PADsynth Wikipedia article. Here are the reasons: - The algorithm was implemented in many software synthesizers, like "WhySynth", "PADpal", etc. If you want links to these software as evidence for this, I can provide it.
- I found many positive comments on forums and blogs about this algorithm.
- I believe that this algorithm is very simple to understand and very useful to be learnt.
- I don't have the intention put on wikipedia the full description with examples, because I already did this on Wikibooks[2].
Please tell me if a short article about PADsynth is suitable for Wikipedia. Thank you. Paulnasca (talk) 13:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you plan to write about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
- editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
- participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors; and
- linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).
- Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view and verifiability of information.
- For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines.
- Finally, please remember that the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed. Please study our verifiability policy on this.
- Kind regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 13:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- Has the algorithm received coverage in reliable, independent sources, such as an article in a reputable journal or a website? (blogs and forum posts are not normally considered reliable). If so, it is quite possibly suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia. decltype (talk) 14:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC) On a tangential note, may I suggest making REALTYPE a template argument instead of a macro in the C++ implementation?
Answer regarding the verifiability: Hi. Yes. I found at least two independent sources about PADsynth. There are two companies which implements audio software. Please note that I am not affiliated to them. They independently read the PADsynth documentation and implemented into their softsynths (or plugins). The first one which I found is Image Line (known for fl studio [3]). I found two plugins on their webpage which implements PADsynth. One is Ogun Pad Harmonics[4] (see on the end of the page) and the other is Autogun [5] (see on the end of the page, too). The other verifiable source is KarmaFX. On KarmaFX version 0.99 they included a PADsynth module. See on the News page [6] and click on the "KarmaFX Synth Modular 0.99 BETA changes." to see the reference.
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- That is not what is meant with verifiable sources. We are talking about New York Times newspaper articles, references in scientific papers or mentions in independent industry magazines for instance. Please see the links mentioned by user spitfire two paragraphs up. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] customized searches? Does the searchbox support regexp of some sort? If so, what format does it use, and what features does it support? If not, does it support [*?] with "?" being a wildcard but required character (that * will return null strings according to current Wikipedia instructions, so... not quite what you want if you know some thing requires something there but not what it would be) 76.66.197.2 (talk) 13:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - The search box does not support regular expressions, but it support some other features like wildcard queries with * and fuzzy queries with ~, which are listed at Wikipedia:Searching#Additional features. --Mysdaao talk 14:07, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] How do you create a new heading? How do you create a new heading in an article for example and article on a musician usually has different headings for each album, how do you insert a new heading? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian610 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - By placing the titles between equal signs. For example, click on the "edit" link for this section and you'll see your header (How do you create a new heading?) between two sets of two equal signs. Adding more equal signs to each side creates smaller headers. TNXMan 15:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- Help:Wikitext_examples#Organizing_your_writing shows you what headings levels 2-4 look like. (Incidently, level 1 headings - using only one = on either side - are only used by the page title automatically - you would never use them yourself) -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Wrong name Dairyland cycle insurance needs to be changed to Dairyland Insurance Company in the title and the URL. There is a link on Sentry Insurance's page that I can change once this gets corrected. Can someone help me with this?? Thanks so much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blancour (talk • contribs) 16:18, 24 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Table of Contents isn't working right I'm working on the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture article and ran into a problem. The Table of Contents is acting weird. Up to section 5.2 Livestock, it works fine, but then starting with section 5.3 Hunting all through the rest of the article's sections, the hyperlink doesn't work. It appears to be fine in the TOC display box - as if there was nothing wrong with the sections - but when you click on the section in the TOC box to go down to that part of the article, it doesn't work. Does anyone know what is going on here? Thanks for the help. Saukkomies 18:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - It is working fine for me. Have you made sure that the entire article has loaded before doing it - if it's not all been loaded, it can't jump to a section that isn't there yet! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 18:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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- One of my browsers is Internet Explorer 8. When it runs in Internet Explorer 7 compatibility mode, I see a normal edit link (and the table of contents still works normally). The double [edit] [edit] in many browsers is caused by the two consecutive images in Cucuteni-Trypillian culture#Diet running down past the following section headings. If this is also causing your problems then maybe it can be fixed with a method at WP:BUNCH. The images were placed there in [7]. Do you see a difference in how the table of contents works in the before and after version: [8][9]. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
(resetting margin) PrimeHunter - thanks for that very useful information about the anti-bunching fix! I applied it to the images you mentioned, but since I wasn't myself seeing the problem with the bunched up [edit] commands, I can't tell whether it made any difference or not. Hopefully, though, for those who were seeing that, it is now fixed. However, I still can't get the Table of Contents to work for me. sigh... --Saukkomies talk 02:22, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - I no longer see the double [edit] [edit] and the table of contents still works normally for me. Did it work for you in the linked before version [10]? If you click on "5.3 Hunting" in the table of contents of that version then does your browser address bar say http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture&oldid=327705137#Hunting without moving you to the Hunting section? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Title maximal length How long can be a title of an article on Wikipedia? --Gikü (talk) 19:59, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)#Title length says: "Titles must be less than 256 bytes long when encoded in UTF-8; a title this long would probably violate other style guidelines, though." PrimeHunter (talk) 20:13, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
What's a "Dereks1x/Archtransit situation"? ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 20:41, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - Archtransit was a sockpuppet who became an administrator. He went on to abuse the position, then the whole farm was uncovered. Le drame ensued. Franamax (talk) 20:45, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- And how. (see Dereks1x) TNXMan 20:52, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] False Information About our Publication on your Website We would appreciate prompt attention to this matter. There are two false statements on your site: 1. Our Publication, Northern Indiana Lakes Magazine, is published by Starboard Publishing, LLC. 2. Our Publication is not Bankrupt. I can provide you information if you need us to. My contact information is Jennifer Wilson, Controller. My phone number is <blanked>. My email address is <blanked> Thank you for your prompt attention. Jennifer Wilson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.134.57 (talk) 20:58, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - To what articles are you referring? I didn't see an article on either Northern Indiana Lakes Magazine or Starboard Publishing. If you do note an obvious factual error, you can just correct it, although due to our conflict of interest policies we would prefer people not make extensive edits to their own pages. --Bfigura (talk) 21:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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[edit] Style Question - is/was? Could not find this in the style guide after a somewhat quick look..... Example... (referring to a person's parent) "his father is John Smith". If John Smith is deceased, does it become "his father was John Smith"? Isn't John Smith always his father, dead or alive? Yunchie (talk) 21:34, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - Conventionally, if you're going to word it that way, you would say "is" if alive and "was" if dead. Just like "he is the son of..." vs. "he was the son of..." The is/was refers to their alive/dead status rather than their parental status. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- Is there a style reference that someone can point me to, regarding this? It would seem to me that if the article was stating the relationship of father and son, then it would refer to the parental status regardless of the alive/dead status. From a practical point of view for an encyclopedic article, the facts could initially be 'alive', but then change to 'dead' at some future time, which would require an additional editing of all of those 'is' entries. Yunchie (talk) 02:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- We actually have a Manual of Style, which deals with everything (style) in Wikipedia from correct use of emdashes (—) to correct titling of articles. You might find what you are looking for there. Intelligentsium 02:18, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Have you seen Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies)#Tense? PrimeHunter (talk) 02:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. That is exactly what I was looking for (and probably looked right past it). Yunchie (talk) 12:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Deletion question from a very occasional Wikipedian I've always found the whole deletion thing to be rather, well, nontransparent - from the point of view of a user. When, on occasions I look for an article only to discover there used to be one, but it's been deleted, there is no obvious way to find out why, in any detail, it's been deleted. Presumably there would have been a deletion discussion somewhere, but it's not linked from the deletion message, at least in the small number of pages I've encountered. How does one locate the deletion discussion? Why is there no way to view the previous contents of a deleted page, like there is with normal modifications? The particular article I encountered recently was Soman_(band). I have no vested interest in this article - I was attempting to consult it for reference, not to edit it. But the deletion reason - WP:MUSIC - is not, prima facie, satisfied according to my reading. More out of curiosity than because I care deeply: how do I find out if this was discussed, and where do I read the discussion? (FWIW, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the article was little more than a stub, but stubs aren't a bad thing (are they)? Google tells me that they've had two albums on Metropolis, which is certainly an important independent label.) (Subsidiary question: is this the right place to ask this?) TIA Roy Badami (talk) 22:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC) - Yes, this is an ok place to ask. Basically, with CSD and PROD deletions, there is no discussion. Someone tags the article as a candidate for deletion, and if no one disagrees within a short time (for CSD) or one week (for PROD), the article is deleted at administrator discretion. If the article goes through Articles for Deletion, there is a discussion about deletion, although I'm not sure whether these are linked or not in the delete summary. Also, administrators can view deleted pages, but others cannot, so there is a way to view deleted content unless it has been oversighted. Hope this helps, Ks0stm (T•C•G) 23:10, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)Yes, this is the right place to ask your question. A page can be deleted through three different ways. One is speedy deletion, which are for obviously inappropriate pages like nonsense, attack pages, and copyright violations. The second is proposed deletion, which is for nominating uncontroversial deletions, and the page is automatically deleted after 7 days, unless anybody objects. The third is a deletion discussion, like Articles for deletion, where there is a discussion that is kept and can be viewed by anyone.
- Only the first two have to have a discussion for a deletion to take place. The page you're looking at, Soman (band), was a proposed deletion, and you can tell this because it says PROD in the deletion log, so there isn't a discussion to be viewed for that deleted page. You can read more at Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted? --Mysdaao talk 23:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Thanks all - I've contacted the admin via his Talk page. Roy Badami (talk) 23:45, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- As to why regular users cannot see deleted pages, see Wikipedia:Perennial proposals#Deleted pages should be visible. If a page was deleted via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion then the deletion log should normally contain a link to the discussion or at least a text containing "AfD". If this had been the case then the discussion would have been at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soman (band). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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- The "What links here" link at the left of the screen can be a useful way to locate discussions about a deleted article. 86.133.247.170 (talk) 03:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC).
[edit] Within sections, should events be placed in chronological order? Thanks MarinaKSF (talk) 23:48, 24 November 2009 (UTC)MarinaK - In most cases it would be natural to use chronological order but it is not required and would depend on editorial judgment in a given context. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:54, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
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- No one person's editorial judgment is considered "more" correct than others; everyone's judgment is valued equally. However, we operate on consensus; therefore, what the community has decided would be the "editorial judgement [that] would prevail". Intelligentsium 02:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- ... everyone's judgement is valued equally, unless they are obviously wrong. 86.133.247.170 (talk) 03:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 25 i am trying to find out wear abouts my grandad is burried in curry mallet church i have tried to find out from somerset records but thay told me it will be with the the church records but i have been told they may have been destroted in a fire can you help please i was born in curry mallet and my grandads name was james stodgell he passed away in july 1958/59 we lived at yew tree cottage lower street and he worked on the farm for glides as a farm hand thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.168.25 (talk) 00:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - You might find what you are looking for in the article about Church of St James, Curry Mallet. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:35, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] AfD listing I nominated Marina 106 for deletion by AfD using Twinkle but it had an error saying that it wasn't listed in today's listing correctly. Could someone take a look and fix it? Thanks Smartse (talk) 00:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)  Y Done diff —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] some table help  Resolved. ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 01:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)I'm looking to make an "invisible" table within another table - That is, one that blends with its background. No borders or outlines. I'm using a template to make this table, so you can view the code at this locale. It doesn't seem to be working though: | Normal table |  | Kawartha Lakes Road 2 | | There are outlines that show up rather strangely as well, for me at least on Firefox 3.5 with OSX. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 00:50, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - I seem to recall reading a similar question before, but I can't find it in the help desk archives. As far as I am aware, you can't hide some of the borders - they are either all there, or none of them are. You might want to ask about it at Help talk:Table -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 01:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Done, in my browser at least. Background must be "transparent"; not "none". Intelligentsium 01:09, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- The background was fine (for me at least) before, its the two outlines around the two table cells (the ones within the "Normal table") which I want kaput. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 01:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
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- (P.S.: I hope you don't mind my editing in your userspace). Intelligentsium 01:19, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- But it looks like you've got it. Intelligentsium 01:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Basically I want the image on the left, and the text spanning two lines to the right. I don't want the text on the second line to go beneath the image (as it is now). - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 01:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- EDIT: After fiddling with what you did above, I got it to do what I wanted! Thank you - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 01:42, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Missing symbols For some reason, my browser doesn't display some commonly used symbols. I see empty spaces, or in some cases a square box. In the edit window, the dropdown menu "Symbols" is missing many of the symbols. I'm using Firefox 3.5.5 for Mac OS X. I found some guidance at Help:Special characters, but nothing specific to my browser/OS combination, so I'm at a loss as what to do. Any suggestions? 72.94.164.21 (talk) 01:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] How to make a redirect page? How to make a redirect page? Such as redirect "Golden Forum" to "Hong Kong Golden Forum"?PowerY (talk) 01:55, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - See Help:Redirect. Algebraist 02:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- I've created the redirect. GlassCobra 17:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
FC_Barcelona_season_2009–10#Squad_stats In this page under the "Squad stats" the template for "Others" is not working. How does one fix the link? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lafuzion (talk • contribs) 03:38, 25 November 2009 - That link appears to be created by Template:Fb_ss_header, and the documentation there describes how to fix the problem. The key would appear to be finding an appropriate target article. Please post again here if you need help with creating the template required. --AndrewHowse (talk) 04:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- The problem is that there currently is no template for "Others" in that article. You can create one by clicking the current red link to Template:Fb competition 2009-10 Others. See how Real Madrid C.F. season 2006–07#Squad stats uses Template:Fb competition 2006-07 Others to produce the text Others1 in the corresponding cell. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:18, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Why is the information not visible? If you take a look on the Goliath II article, you will notice there are some general info in the box to the right, like language, running time and director and so on. But there is nothing about the release date inside this box. The problem is; it's already there, but it is not visible. Then take a look at articles like Fun and Fancy Free. Just like Goliath II, the box contains information about the release date. The only difference is that here you can see it. So why is it not visible in the Goliath II article? 84.210.31.205 (talk) 05:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - The Goliath II article uses the Template:Infobox Hollywood cartoon, while the Fun and Fancy Free article uses the Template:Infobox Film. The arguement labeling is different, the Hollywood cartoon infobox uses "release_date=" while the Film infobox uses "released=". I have fixed the problem. --Jayron32 05:25, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] How does one provide and correct photos currently displaying the incorrect species for a description? Both photos shown for Ctenosaura pectinata appear to be Ctenosaura similis. Besides discrepancies in the physical attributes, the photo data on where the pictures were taken supports this observation. How does one offer up alternate photos and correct the errors? Reference is: Gunther Köhler 2002 Schwarzleguane: Lebensweise, Pflege, Zucht. Offenbach: Herpeton 2002 ISBN 3-936180-016 Trans: [Gunther Kohler: Black iguanas: life style, care, breeding. Offenbach: Herpeton 2002 ISBN 3-936180-016] Glyphseeker (talk) 06:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - If you're certain of your identification you are free to remove the images from the article. Please do so, by deleting their entire file name of the one in the taxobos, just from the word file to through its extension, and the entire image html for the article one. Post a note with your source and a brief description of what is wrong on the article's discussion page. When you do that, you can then upload another image with proper copyright releases. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 06:51, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Plastic film calculation of thickness & its weight how to calculate the thickness & weight of a plastic laminated film manually or if there is any formula for it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Padam.nahata (talk • contribs) 07:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC)  Please do your own homework. Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Toolbar I want to put you in my right hand upper corner where google is. I don't like google as much as you guys and gals. please E-Mail me to let me know how? ok? Thank You CLETE 07:07, 25 November 2009 (UTC)07:07, 25 November 2009 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by CletisArnold1 (talk • contribs) Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC) -
- Actually, he's not in the wrong place at all. He's asking how to turn the search bar in the top right of his web browser (which can be selected for Google, yahoo, etc.) into a Wikipedia search bar. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, that makes sense now, thanks Someguy1221! I have strucken my previous response.
- In that case: go to Microsoft's "Add Search Providers to Internet Explorer" page and follow the instructions. Wikipedia is on the list of the search providers on that page. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Or if you're in Firefox 3.x: immediately left of the upper right hand search field, where you see the Google logo, there is a small down arrow. Click on this to see a list of other search engines you can use. Wikipedia is one of the preloaded options. Gonzonoir (talk) 10:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Reputation Can someone help my reputation? Uncle Tech 08:46, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Hi Technogreek43, although its technacially impossible to actually leave your editing past behind you on wikipedia, if you decide you want to try and improve, most users will be more than happy to aid you in this.
- What I recommend trying is getting adopted by a more experienced user. Although this may sound quite daunting or unwanted, its actually very easy and exceedingly helpful. To get adopted just go here and choose one of the users who have a green box next to them, simply leave a message on their talk page requesting adoption and they'll take it from there.
- The main thing is that you show a genuine interest in improving, kind regards SpitfireTally-ho! 08:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
But who would adopt me with ym history? Heck, I was just unblocked half an hour ago... i even reported my self on the vandalism thing. I don't know. I guess I'll try this adopt thing... I just hope someone will care about me on this site. Uncle Tech 09:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Spend some time looking at the comments that each adopter has left about themselves, and try to make a choice from that, personally I'd recommend Tnxman307 (talk · contribs) or Chamal N (talk · contribs), although you should check out their comments and see whether or not you think they'll be able to help you. Regards SpitfireTally-ho! 09:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Actualy I gave ana dopt request to the admin who blocked me: Carribean H. Q. I figure maybe the guy who blocked me would be the best to help me too. Uncle Tech 09:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Okay, Carribean doesn't actually list him/her-self as an adopter, however there's no harm in trying. What you seem to mostly need is some guidance and advice, rather than learning and experience, so maybe Carribean will be best suited to help you. Regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 09:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Uncle Tech, your signature does not appear to have a link in it (either to your user page or to your talk page). I have modified your user name above so that it will point to your user page, but if you could alter your sig, that'd be great! (WP:SIG says Signatures must include at least one internal link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions page; this allows other editors easy access to your talk page and contributions log. The lack of such a link is widely viewed as obstructive (emphasis mine)). Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Ooh, sorry about that. I think that's taken care of now. And also, I panicked when I was first unblocked and reported myself on the vandalism page out of unconfidence here on Wikipedia. It was about 2 minutes afteer I first posted here. If I removed that, would I get in trouble? Uncle Tech (talk) 09:34, 25 November 2009 (UTC) Thanks! I really don't know what I was thinking there... Oh well, it's over with noe. One again thanks! Uncle Tech (talk) 09:40, 25 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Mass updation on Intranet Hi I have My Company's Intranet Wiki .. I want to Upload a huge bunch of file in single page and also want that they can be searched by their name within document... is there any way that i can upload files together without manually typing everything from scratch... can i mass upload on my intranet.. if yes please let me know how... Ill be waiting for your reply.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bharat0306 (talk • contribs) 10:33, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Have you tried contacting the person responsible for your company's Wiki, or one of its admins? -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 10:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Well one of my admin has asked me to do this... we have inhouse software that we use.. and we want some of its file to be documented for further reference... so that all the new developers can easily refer that.. and also there should be some way that we can search that particular file according to name or description so that it reduce time that we require to go in and search that file on software.. I have around 260 files to be uploaded.. can i do that coz if ill try to upload each file manually that will take lots of time.. can you suggest me some way.. will wait for your response... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bharat0306 (talk • contribs) 12:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - As a note, if you have a conflict of interest, you are highly discouraged from editing articles about yourself, the company for which you work (or products it may sell), etc. TNXMan 12:46, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- If I understand your question correctly, you are asking for advice about uploading to your company wiki? I am afraid that this is the help desk of the English Wikipedia - we cannot give advice about using wiki software elsewhere. Your best bet would be to go to the website of the developer of your wiki software, and either look for a FAQ there, or a support desk. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:51, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
Well i really didnt understand what you meant... I am Trying to update something on my company intranet and that is wiki product i guess.. and i am new member so really dont know much about this.. and i tried going to English Wikipedia but didnt find any helpdesk for that.. if these is some thing that you are not supposed to resolve can you provide me with the link as in to whom should i refer this problem... please let me know.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bharat0306 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Your admin should understand what I mean! OK...
- Ask your admin what wiki software is used for your company Wiki. Once we know that, we may be able to point you in the proper direction. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Missile Sir, My Name is Eshwar Rao I am from Bangalore India. Army retired I have asked this question on many website but I did not get positive result. I think now I am on correct website. Our many scientist are working on this world regarding firing the missile to kill people or for destruction, but is there any one who has built an missile to fire water based or chemical used as firefighting compound used in the missile and fired to put the fire off. this can save our forest and many live on this earth we speak about global warming and other things to save the earth please guide people to do something to save our earth from fire and heat have any comments please write to me. - Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. SpitfireTally-ho! 11:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- See Aerial firefighting for the closest thing we have to what you describe. Rockets probably have insufficient payload to be useful for firefighting. Rockets are more useful for starting fires as this takes only a small amount of incendiary. --Teratornis (talk) 19:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] sorry i made an edit mistake Hi. Please reattribute work done as 202.110.209.167 to me, Radical Ghost. I made an edit and was unknowingly logged out before hand, so my IP address was put down. I searched around for instructions on how to change it, but the information i found was too confusing for me to follow, or was said to be outdated and no longer in use. I made to edits in the "Wink" page the the IP address 202.110.209.167 . The first was the edit, the second was an undid edit. I would like it changed to my username "Radical Ghost". Thanks and sorry for the troubleRadical Ghost (talk) 12:45, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Unfortunately it is impossible to "reattribute" any changes. The best we can do is add to the page of the IP that you have used that address at times in the past. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:51, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- IP edits cannot be reattributed to an account, but Wikipedia:Oversight#Policy says they can be removed from the page history if you don't want the IP address to be public. See Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Or you or we could add that on your user page, you used to edit under that IP address, or add that specific edit on user page saying you made that edit. Both these
editsactions can be done on the your talk page conversely.174.3.102.6 (talk) 14:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - I also made the same mistake as Radical Ghost and came across info to apparently change the IP address to a user ID, but found it too complicated. I did not know (not being great with computers) where to copy and paste the following two suggestions. Does anyone know or is this outated?
cd <path to mediawiki> rm attribute.sql php maintenance/attribute.php OldUserNameOrIP NewUserName mysql < attribute.sql
<from> : Name of the user to assign edits from <to> : Name of the user to assign edits to --force : Reassign even if the target user doesn't exist —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richwww (talk • contribs) 12:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] removing a link Hello, I am trying to create an article about my organization: tvtv Services, a branch of Sony UK. I found an old article named 'tvtv Digital'. I moved it to a new article, named it as 'tvtv Services' and changed the content in order to increase the coverage. However, I want to delete the link, because it is misleading. The company has never been called 'tvtv Digital'. When I google 'tvtv Services' now, google gives the result link as 'tvtv Digital' and I want to avoid it. Is there a way to do that? Thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Orangegray (talk • contribs) 13:35, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - tvtv digital is an appropriate redirect and not misleading at all, as it is the name of the television channel as it appears on the freeview service in the UK, and is thus a very likely search term for readers looking for information.
- Also, can I advise you to familiarise yourself with our guidelines on conflicts of interest - editing articles about your own company is discouraged, and the fact that the article currently reads like an advertisement is precisely the reason for this. Please endeavour to rewrite the article in a neutral tone. Also, the article currently lacks any references which are independent of the subject. This will also need rectifying. Regards, AJCham 13:41, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. It takes some time for Google to register changes in Wikipedia. We don't control that. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:25, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- If you really want to help that article out, please write those lists into good prose. And keep the ad words out of it please :D —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:35, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- And why use tvtv Services, isn't the name just tvtv ? —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:40, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks TheDJ and AJCham for the advise, it is my first article. so working on the article again.
- tvtv Services is the legal name of the company. That is why I used it.
- tvtv doesn't provide data to Freeview anymore. AJCham, are you sure it is still listed as a channel on Freeview? Thanks, Regards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.212.199.56 (talk) 15:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry forgot to sign--Orangegray (talk) 16:35, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] What Does "(top)" Mean? If you look at this page, some of the edits will have (top) beside them at the end on the right. What does this mean?174.3.102.6 (talk) 14:00, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - It means that that edit is the latest edit on its page - so it will appear at the top of the page's edit history. Gandalf61 (talk) 14:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict):It means that edit was the last one made to the page, and it has not changed since then. Please see Help:User contributions#Viewing a user contributions page, #10, for more details. --Mysdaao talk 14:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Copyrights for scanned images What copyright applies to scanned images (pics of people, places from a newspaper, and book covers), and which copyright tag should be used? I couldn't find this among all the image guidelines. Is there a guideline I missed? Thanks in advance. - Draeco (talk) 14:32, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - A scan is a mechanical reproduction of something else. Usually these don't get their own copyright. So the copyright is the one that applies to the original. If you scan a newspaper, the copyright is the one of the Publisher of the newspaper. In those cases, usage of these materials on Wikipedia is only allowed as Fair Use. See our guideline on non-free materials. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:09, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] My edit to existing article "deleted" - how do I find out why? This morning I created a user account. I made minor additions to an existing article ( Concept Maps) - I was creating a new topic (Knowledge Arena) and linking this new article of the existing article when I received notice of a conflict from [Andyjsmith] and have since discovered my edits and new article have been removed. I don't know why. Can anyone help? I am unsure how to find the answer in the FAQs etc.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ray Oaks (talk • contribs) 14:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - If you look through the page history of Concept map by clicking the "history" tab on the top of the page, you'll see that Andyjsmith reverted all your edits with the edit summary "restored content fork material". I suggest you go to the user's talk page at User talk:Andyjsmith and ask why your edits were reverted. For the deleted article, if you go to the former article title at Knowledge Arena, you'll see the deletion log. Administrator Tnxman307 deleted the article with the reason "G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page". Either you requested the article be deleted, or you removed everything on the page, which can be taken as a request for deletion. --Mysdaao talk 15:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- But Andyjsmith just made another edit to Concept map and reverted the change, putting back what you added. Also through the page history, you can see the edit summary "undid myself - got confused by a content fork article (now deleted)". So there's no need to discuss it with the user now. --Mysdaao talk 15:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)x2 Andyjsmith has reverted the edit, and restored your contributions - see here. In future if an editor undoes your work the best course of action is to discuss it with them on their talk page, or begin a discussion on the talk page of the article. Although the help desk probably wasn't the right place to come, I commend you for seeking to discuss the matter rather than edit war with the other contributor. AJCham 15:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Only administrators like me can see the page history of a deleted page. User:Ray The Oaks (apparently another account for you User:Ray Oaks, see WP:SOCK) created Knowledge Arena. Andyjsmith replaced the content with a redirect to Concept map using edit summary "redirect - unhelpful content fork". You blanked the page by removing the redirect code
#REDIRECT [[Concept map]] without restoring the former content. Tnxman307 speedily deleted the page with deletion summary "G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page". Note that G7 links to a policy which says: "If the sole author blanks a page other than a userspace page or category page, this can be taken as a deletion request". I see you have created Knowledge arena (the software distinguishes this from Knowledge Arena with capital A) instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] TracPhone im trying to get a track phone because i am getting help from the state.(foodstamps) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.36.2 (talk) 16:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TNXMan 16:15, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Rollback and page blanking Is it okay to use rollback when an article is blanked (but not entire content replaced with nonsense) by a user (provided he is not the creator of the article, which means he requests for deletion)? Merlion 444 16:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Yep, sounds fine, but make sure that you use {{uw-blank}} rather than {{uw-vandalism}}. Cheers, SpitfireTally-ho! 16:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Confused about IP (non-account) block on my range Every time I try to do anything logged out (usually not realising that I am logged out) I always get a message about my IP range being blocked, sometimes it's different. This only started happening after I changed my service provider to AT&T (specifically U-Verse). Can someone elaborate what's going on here? Shouldn't my range just be limited to my house? I'm a tad concerned. --Glaesisvellir (talk) 17:27, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - ISPs like U-Verse have a group (range) of IPs. They then allocate them to their users, such as yourself. However, these often change (every time you connect, you get a slightly different IP address, but still within the range used by U-Verse). The block is for a group of the IPs (as vandalism has occurred from several addresses within the range). If you are logged in, as you have seen, you don't have the problem - only unlogged-in editors within that range of IP addresses are blocked. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 17:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Joint Account Resolved. Is it prohibited for two people to make a single account? Thanks-Shahab (talk) 18:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - Yes. Please see this page. TNXMan 18:47, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- OK Thanks.-Shahab (talk) 18:55, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Correct english? Hey, I am from Germany and tried to contribute to the articles covering my home country. Could you do me a bid favour and tell me if you understand this sentence/if it is correct english: "The "Education and Science Workers’ Union" wants to abolish Gymnasium in favour of comprehensive schools. According to the Union Gymnasien are open to the average owning-class student, but only to the superior working class student. They hold the opinion that Gymnasium-students are not only selected by merit, but by mannerism and heritage" what I wanted to say is that according to that union the students at the Gymnasium were not nessescarily the smartest, but the most well-behaved with the right parents. Does "mannerism" and "heritage" make sense in that context? I had to look up both words in my dictionary and I am, not sure if I used them in the right way. Thanks a lot.-- 212.201.82.191 (talk) 21:33, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - I think the words you've suggested are close to your intended meaning, but not quite there. "Mannerism" colloquially means a habit of speech or gesture, and (I believe) is generally used to refer to quite individual traits. "Heritage" is generally used to refer to ancestry, with rather more historical (or even genetic or racial) connotations than I think you want. I'd say "social background" would be a closer idiomatic use than those, and would phrase the paragraph like this:
- "'The Education and Science Workers’ Union advocates the abolition of Gymnasium schools in favour of comprehensive schools, arguing that, while Gymnasium schools admit middle class students of average ability, working class students are admitted only if they are unusually academically able. The Union believes that Gymnasium schools select not only for academic merit, but for background and social class." Gonzonoir (talk) 21:40, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you Gozonoir. I will change that. would you like to have a look at Gymnasium (Germany)? I would really appreciate that.-- 212.201.82.191 (talk) 21:44, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Or would someone else like to look if that article makes sense? My english is a little rusty. Would be very nice of you all. Thank you.-- 212.201.82.191 (talk) 22:09, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I've just copy edited the lead section of Gymnasium (Germany) and will look at the rest tomorrow; others should join in as they see fit :) Gonzonoir (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] SUBMISSION AND LACK OF RESPONSE I'm sorry Wikipedia is not end-user accessible. Seems to be high-end academics with pages and pages about themselves. If you are interested. I tried to submit an article, following the style of Nikon and Coca Cola but was rejected almost immediately. Let me tell you some detail, before you flush this email. I wanted to introduce a new product to the world and a new word. I know you are thinking 'dictionary' or wikipedinary but the point is I could not understand why a branded product gets clearance over another. My entry was quite interesting and had technical back up too. The application was a genuine case and if you want to see it I might be able to retrieve from the wiki bucket. If I donate that counts too - you'll find my name on the list. Please advise what I should do to get approval. Ken —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.175.250 (talk) 22:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC) - New products and new words are almost always not notable enough to meet our inclusion criteria. When a product becomes notable and there are sources in support, then maybe. Please also read WP:SPAM and don't SHOUT!. – ukexpat (talk) 22:51, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- Further to Ukexpat's reply, may I just point out that both Nikon and Coca Cola are very established brands, which have received lots of coverage in reliable sources over the years that they have existed. I think that most people (in the Western World at least) have heard of Nikon and would know that they have something to do with cameras. I think that most people in the developed world have heard of Coca Cola! (In fact, some of my friends say that Christmas hasn't really begun until they see the first "Holidays are Coming" advert with the lorry advertising Coke!).
- For a new brand or product to merit inclusion in Wikipedia, it would be necessary for it to receive significant coverage from very reliable sources (for example, a two-page spread in the New York Times, written by staff writers, not a re-write of a press release, or a paid-for promotional piece of writing). Offhand, I can't think of a new brand or product that has been included in Wikipedia within a year of it starting up.
- Incidently, donations made have no effect on editing decisions on Wikipedia - never have, never will. The purpose of the fundraising is to help pay for the upkeep of the servers that are used for all of the WikiMedia Foundation projects (including Wikipedia), and for the 33 staff who work for the WikiMedia Foundation.
- I am sorry that you feel let down by not being allowed to create your article, but Wikipedia has policies and guidelines on this, including the Wikipedia Guidelines on Notability and the Wikipedia Guidelines on Notability for Companies. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:16, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. The critical thing to keep an article about a product or company is not how well written, interesting or technically detailed the article is, but how much coverage the subject has received in independent reliable sources as required in Wikipedia:Notability. Other media like a newspaper would have other criteria but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and doesn't aim to present interesting new products which may or may not become famous in the future. If the writing is not perfect then other editors can improve it, but if there are insufficient reliable sources then the article is deleted. Only administrators like me can see the content of deleted articles (but I haven't seen yours). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:45, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 26 [edit] Wikipedia is Dying Under Its Own Weight ... and if you want an example have a look at this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Lee_(academic) There was a feature in the UK news magazine, Private Eye on this article. I have no truck with this person. I don't even know who he is to be honest. But he's evidently written his own hagiography on this entry. Despite attempts by some to point out the silliness of trying to claim that this is an encylopedic article, nothing gets done. Individuals and organisations use your smug endeavour to further their own PR needs, and there is nothing you bother to do about it. And you have the arrogance to offer a guide to 'citing' Wikipedia - as if 'articles' like this have any kind of academic weight! Pathetic - and yet hysterical. If that's an encyclopedia article, I'm a muskrat. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.221.240.201 (talk) 01:38, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - What's stopping you from improving the article? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia#A caution before citing Wikipedia. This help desk regularly gets questions about how to cite Wikipedia. It would be odd to withhold that information. Many promotional articles are deleted daily or have poorly sourced and unsourced claims removed. Others slip by for some time but may be improved at any time, for example by you. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:48, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- For a recent example of an inappropriate claim which was removed 70 minutes later, see [11] which reverted the only other edit by the IP address in your post. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- This is the Help Desk for Wikipedia - we will answer any questions about how to use Wikipedia. However, you have not actually asked any questions! You are entitled to your opinion, but the Help Desk is not the place to air it - it would be better placed on the article's talk page here. If there are factual inaccuracies, mention these there, and give your sources of information (from reliable sources) that show that your information is correct and that in the article is wrong. The article in question has references sourced from UK national newspaper, which most people (apart from yourself, I assume) would count as reliable sources of information. I was not aware that Private Eye was counted as more reliable than The Guardian, The Daily Telegraph, The Times, Times Higher Education or BBC News, which account for 10 out of the 14 references given! -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 01:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Simon Lee (academic) has had about 424 views so far this month. Articles which few people read take longer to improve, as readers outnumber editors on Wikipedia by at least two orders of magnitude. In general, articles on Wikipedia which get few views may remain poor in quality for a long calendar time, but the most meaningful unit of time on Wikipedia is the page view. Thus on average roughly the same number of people will view a poor quality article as it evolves toward something better. See for example the most popular articles right now. Most of them are either of respectable quality or are rapidly progressing toward it - rapidly in terms of calendar time, but not page-view time. If a significant number of people cared about Simon Lee (academic), his article would get better fast. On Wikipedia there is no deadline. Check back in a few years and things should be better than they are now. Wikipedia does not try to be all things to all people, so if you don't like it, that's cool. --Teratornis (talk) 08:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] wizard draft how to upload/move - need more My draft, created in the wizard is complete with extensive references. I cannot find how to MOVE/upload it to the encyclopedia. My account in new and I do not have edits made to quzlity me for MOVE on my own. I am completely stumped and already spent 3 hours going through all the HELP questions, etc. Marcomgirl (talk) 03:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - You need ten edits and four days to move a page (which I have). I will review the article and move it if appropriate. Please wait for a few minutes while I do so. Intelligentsium 03:55, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- I am concerned there is some clopse paraphrasing in your draft, which may be of some legal discomfort to Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. You may ask any experienced user to move it for you after you have revised it into more of your own words (not me though; it is very early in the morning here). Intelligentsium 04:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- I am concerned with the sourcing and that it comes across overly promotional. I assume it might be easy enough to fix, though. I can provide some feedback on your user tlak page if you want.Cptnono (talk) 04:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Contets box How do I get contents box at the top of article User:Zaikovskis. It doesn't appear there automatically. Have I deleted something? Thanks – imis☂ 04:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - use the template {{TOC left}}. --Jayron32 05:10, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- I don't like it, I want it to be on top. Please advise. Thanks – imis☂ 05:20, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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__TOC__ (double underscores on both sides). See more at Help:Section. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:28, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Resolved. Thanks – imis☂ 02:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] Old Account lost password Is there anyway to get a password for an old account.I lost the password and have not been able to log on for a few years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koneesha24 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - If the account has not stored an email address then the account cannot be retrieved. User:Koneesha has no email address. If you prefer the old username then you can make a request to usurp it. But creating a new account when the old only has two deleted edits is perfectly OK and preferred over usurpation which gives us more work. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:23, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] A.K.A. - How to? Is there an easy way to specify a person's alias within an article and have either name redirect there? Or must a separate redirect page be created? For example I have a page Curtis Grubb, but he also spelled his name Curttis Grubb. Can I handle this within the existing page, or do I have to create a redirect to it? LynnSGrubb (talk) 06:40, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - You should create a redirect and mention and cite the alternate spelling. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 07:09, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] can't open wikipedia pages Dear All - this is pretty basic I'm afraid - frequently I try to open a wikipedia page and I get a dialogue box headed "File Download - Security Warning" which says "Do you want to save this file, or find a program to open it?" - in effect I can't open the page. This happens with many but not all pages - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitz_im_Leben is an example of one where it does happen. I'm using Vista, which must be to blame, since it is the source of all wickedness in the modern world. Any suggestions? Many thanks JR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.210.171 (talk) 10:45, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - The most common cause of this problem is to click on a link through Google or other search engines. If I type that address directly, I have no problems. Do you get the same problem when you click here: Sitz im Leben? -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Hrrm... yes, thanks, now I can open that one... and it does seem that if I search directly in wikipedia I get through. But some pages that I previously searched for on Google and failed to open I don't seem to be able to open in wikipedia either! I can't open the article on von Rad from here http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=von+rad, for example. But I guess I can live with that! Thanks for your help - JR —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.210.171 (talk) 11:16, 27 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] information on natural mutagens and toxicity testing please give information on natural mutagens and toxicity testing... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raghunekkanti23 (talk • contribs) 12:05, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - You might find what you are looking for in the articles about Mutagen, Toxicity or Toxicology testing. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Loss of 49,000 editors [edit] Citation template for an annual report Hi. I'm citing a company's annual report using the citation template. Now I'm not entirely sure what parameters to use or how. Here's an example of how I used it: - date = April 7, 2009 (The date when the annual report was published.)
- periodical = Annual Report 2008 (The title of the report.)
- version = 12 (Version of the annual report. It says 12th operating year so I'm guessing it's the 12th version of the report.)
- publisher = CCP (The company publishing the report.)
- pages = 64-67 (The pages I'm citing.)
There are probably some important parameters that I am forgetting and/or misusing. Could somebody take a look at the company's article and check it out. Cheers. Stefán Örvarr Sigmundsson (talk) 12:56, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - That looks OK, but I do have one question - why is this company having a separate entry to CPP Games? Obviously, you have only started working on the article, but it seems to me that User:S.Örvarr.S/CCP hf could possibly be merged into the main article. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 13:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, the point is to merge it with the CCP article. CCP provided me with the necessary information for the article and I'm working on citing it now. Stefán Örvarr Sigmundsson (talk) 15:14, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Are you employed by the company or do you have some other kind of relationship with them that would put you in a conflict of interest? – ukexpat (talk) 18:14, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] How do I change my email? I got a new email address and I can't figure out how to change my old email on wikipedia to the new one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Argyleislife (talk • contribs) 15:55, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - At the topright when you are logged in is the option "Preferences". On the first tab, at the bottom, you will find "Email options". —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Category with template Is there a code to put on a page so that a category that is embedded in a navbox template will not show on a specific page? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 17:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - If you are talking about a category for a template, try adding <noinclude> [[Category:(insert category here)]] </noinclude> to the template. If you want a template placed on a page to automatically categorize its article, add (to the template) <includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{lc:{{{category|}}}}}|no||[[Category:(insert category here)|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}</includeonly> . Hope this helps! - I.M.S. (talk) 17:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- The template already has the code that adds the category automatically. The problem is that for a few pages that are in this navbox, there is no need for that category since the pages are in a subcat of it already. Other pages in the navbox, however, need the category. I could take the automaticness out of the navbox template, but then I would have to manually add the category to the 20 or so pages that do need it. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 18:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I can't help you there, although I see your problem. It would probably take some rather advanced code, but until someone figures it out, perhaps your idea of adding the categories manually would work best. - I.M.S. (talk) 18:45, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Category suppression. If a template is coded to add a category then a use of the template cannot prevent it (bugzilla:835 has a 5 years old request for that). The common solution is to let the template add categories by default but have a parameter saying to not add categories. A few templates have code to check for such a parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Pages linking to an infobox Resolved. – ukexpat (talk) 18:16, 26 November 2009 (UTC) Hi, how can I find out, which pages are making use of a certain infobox? Thx for your support. FHessel (talk) 17:27, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - Special:Whatlinkshere should show which pages transclude the template. Simply enter the full page title, for example "Template:Infobox software", in the "Page" box, leave "Namespace" at "all", then click "Go". Xenon54 / talk / 17:35, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ok thank you FHessel (talk) 17:38, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- You can also click "What links here" in the toolbox to the left (at least in the default MonoBook skin) when you are on the template page for the infobox. See more at Help:What links here. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] References I've rewritten a definition section. I wanted to include a references, but I wasn't sure where to put the ><ref>…</ref> marker. I've written the standard definition and given some explanation of my own. Putting the <ref>…</ref> marker at the end feels like only the last sentance is from the given reference. I settled on putting the ><ref>…</ref> marker in the section header; but that doesn't feel right either. What's the way of doing this? ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 17:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - At the simplest, add <ref>...</ref> at the end of a sentence, and add, at the bottom of the page, {{reflist}} or </references> so that all your references show. Adding a ref after a section header isn't proper. Within a ref, at the simplest, you can add something like : Smith, John (1998). p. 39. Try messing around at the Sandbox until you get the hang of it. Here's an example:
... died on Nov. 1st, 1926.[1] [edit] References - ^ abc, abc, (2004). p. 300
Hope this helps... I went ahead and fixed the problem on your page. I added <refname="Arnold"> to the ref (see how it looks in wikitext). That way you can use your source multiple times throughout the article. - I.M.S. (talk) 18:02, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - Thanks for making the changes. But your reply didn't really address what I had in mind. I'm already very familiar with how to put in references and reflists. My question was this: If a whole paragraph or section is supported by one reference, then where should the reference tag go? Peppering the article with a reference tag at the end of every sentence is not acceptable; but putting only one isn't ideal either: it might imply that only that one sentence is supported by that reference. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 13:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Image problems. Hello. We've added a few images over at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Saw_characters but for some reason the thumb pic for the characters Lawrence Gordon, Daniel Rigg and William Easton won't update and show their recent image changes. Its taking on the new pictures dimensions but not updating the actual image. If we remove the 'thumb' value it seems to update the pic but leaves them too big. Anyone know why this is happening?Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - Try purging or bypassing your cache. The browser may just be displaying the old thumb because it does not detect that there is a new file to retrieve from the server. —Akrabbimtalk 13:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Looking for an IP... There was an essay I read a long while back about not discrediting IPs, because they can make useful contributions. It included a story about an IP, that, at one point, received an admin nomination. I'd like to get the IP's name (or number, whatever) and if possible, the link to the essay. I'd like to be able to argue on behalf of poor IPs that are called vandals on every talk page I've been to, but I just can't remember the blasted information. ~Thanks, ~九尾の氷狐~ (「Sumimasen!」 「Dochira samaka?」) 22:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - Wikipedia:Not every IP is a vandal. Nanonic (talk) 22:48, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Here's an IP RfA: [12] Ks0stm (T•C•G) 22:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks you two~ Happy Thanksgiving, unless you don't celebrate it, in which case, happy Thursday :3 ~九尾の氷狐~ (「Sumimasen!」 「Dochira samaka?」) 23:05, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] November 27 [edit] Pictures It seems to be so difficult to find a pictures for certain pages. I try searching Google for public pictures that I can use, and I do find some. But when I upload it, there's still a need for licencing and stuff. For the page of House of Heroes, I've been looking for a picture for the page, for the longest time. But the licencing always gets in the way! Why must there be licencing stuff for free images? Is there anyway uploading an image can be easier? Moptopstyle1 00:33, 27 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs) - Experience shows that many users upload copyrighted images without saying they are copyrighted, so we cannot assume an image is free if the uploader gave no license information. There are also many users who don't know copyright rules and have greater risk of making an inaccurate claim if they just write plain text like "This image is allowed to use" than if they use a specific copyright tag which may say where they actually got the image from. Use of copyright tags also help to automate some things. See more at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags. If you are unsure what to do with an image then you can post to Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:00, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Oh, but I do not know anything about, "permissons" and "copyrights" and everything like that So, where do I start? What do I do? Moptopstyle1 01:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moptopstyle1 (talk • contribs) -
- You can start by following these links: WP:Copyrights; WP:CC-BY-SA; WP:FUI. commons:COM:L may also be useful. Intelligentsium 01:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Resolved. At Bud Billiken Parade and Picnic, most of the parameters are not working. I think some tinkering has caused problems.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:52, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - I have fixed this instance through an analysis of the template (the syntax is fairly simple, but a meta-template is used). The problem was that you misnamed the arguments (for example,
|dates should have been |date). If you would like, I could fix the template itself so that it will take both, or at least desensitize it to the variants. Intelligentsium 01:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - Desensitizing the template would be helpful, since it is probably breaking in several other uses. The page had been working for years before recent changes to the template. So whatever changes you can make so that fewer other templates experience problems would be good. Thanks for cleaning it up. Is the size parameter working?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Now, resolved. Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:42, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures in list I'm working with List of heads of state of Argentina, and most of the people in it have images to be ilustrated, but some obscure antique governors do not (at least, not free ones). What do I do with the "Image" field in their cases? Do I leave an image placeholder like File:Replace this image male.svg, or do I leave it empty? MBelgrano (talk) 03:55, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - In a table, it is best to leave the image field blank. Intelligentsium 04:00, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Most edits Which Wikipedia mainspace article has had the most edits? jc iindyysgvxc (my contributions) 08:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - You might find what you are looking for in the article about Wikipedia:Most frequently edited pages. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:41, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- By default the Most frequently edited pages table is sorted on the Recent Edits column. You may want it sorted on the Total Edits column; you can sort it that way by clicking on the column heading. Note that because of the length of the table, the resort may take several minutes. Mainspace articles are those in Namespace 0. —teb728 t c 10:46, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Not too surprisingly, between 2008-04-24 and 2008-05-23 it was George W. Bush's article. I guess that no one has bothered to analyse all of the edits since then. You can check www.wikirage.com as well though Smartse (talk) 18:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Can I translate those pages? I don't know if it's proper to translate a page directly and create them as the page of another language on Wikipedia. for example, I wanna just translate the page introducing Yttria Stabilized Zirconia into Chinese, and then create the Chinese pages in Wikipedia, using those texts i've translated. Do i need to cite the original English page? Thanks a lot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lagrime (talk • contribs) 10:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - Usually what people do is to mention it in the editsummary (add the permanent link). Some Wikipedia versions have a talkpage template for articles that were translated from a different language version. See {{Translated_page}} —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:33, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Edit box doesn't show correct data Twice recently, when I attempt to edit a page, nothing, or a scrambled page source appears in the edit box. For example, I can not edit my Talk page at the moment, as the box says there is no content. I am using the secure server. Thanks ContinueWithCaution (talk) 11:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - Did you try a forced reload in your browser ? WP:BYPASS —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I tried that without success. This happens on the beta, monobook and modern skins, too. Thanks, ContinueWithCaution (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2009 (UTC).
[edit] Question minda amocanis amoxzsna...trapecis partobi? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.54.199.2 (talk) 15:02, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - I'm not sure what you are trying to ask. TNXMan 17:57, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Google Translate with the detect language option claims the source language is Malay, but doesn't translate it to English. If the question really is in Malay language, there is a Malay Wikipedia where the questioner could ask. However, the ip2location tool puts the IP address in the country of Georgia, so who knows. --Teratornis (talk) 20:04, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Using a variety of tools, and assuming it is Georgian (which seems more likely to me than Malay), the best I've come up with is that the original question can be transliterated as "მინდა ამოcანის ამოxზსნა თრაფეcის ფართობი", however when looking for individual words, it seems that most of these are not words, "წმინდა ანბანი ამორჩევა თრიალეთის ფართობი" is what suggestions have produced (I have no idea of the accuracy). With even less accuracy, the word for word translation of this is: "(holy) (alphabet) (to choose) (?) (area)" which doesn't help much. I can't find any Georgian phrase translators on the internet though. The Georgian Wikipedia may be of more help. Thryduulf (talk) 20:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Where to get someone to review a proposed edit Is there a well-trafficked place to ask for someone to review an edit I'm proposing to a page with little discussion-page traffic? A link I proposed for County of Brant was deleted by a bot, but since no one reads the talk page there it's not really a good place to ask anyone to look over it. Misty De Meo (talk) 17:48, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - I had a look on the talk page, and it appears that Brant County falls under both wp:WikiProject Ontario and WP:WikiProject Canada, so they might be good places to check out.
- Depending on the type of link you were adding, the bot might have been set to remove it automatically. In which case, have a read of WP:EL. There is also a noticeboard: WP:ELN that you could try. Stephen! Coming... 18:43, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- The link was to this wiki, it seems like a reasonable link to be included so I'll add it back for you. Smartse (talk) 18:42, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Help with IPA I was hoping somebody could help me by placing the IPA pronunciation guide in Kiliaen van Rensselaer (Dutch merchant). I don't know how to use the system, but I have a sound file of the pronunciation of the name, stated by a Dutch speaker. Anybody here want to take a whack at it? upstateNYer 18:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - As this is a specialized request, there might not be anyone reading the Help desk who knows how to help with this (but check back over the next several days, maybe you will get a useful reply). If nobody here can help you, you can try some of these alternatives until something works:
- Search for other articles having IPA pronunciations for other Dutch words. Look at the history of such articles to identify the users who added those pronunciations. Ask them for help on their talk pages.
- Ask on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Netherlands. Probably some Dutch speakers participate in that project.
- Ask for help on the talk page of the corresponding article on the Dutch Wikipedia: nl:Talk:Kiliaen van Rensselaer. The Dutch-language version of the article should also have the same IPA pronunciation, but it does not currently. I suppose you could leave a question in English on the talk page there, which isn't ideal, but many Dutch speakers also speak English.
- --Teratornis (talk) 19:50, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Page moved incorrectly Could someone fix the moving of Home Rule Movement to Indian Home Rule Movement? Someone copied and pasted it instead of moving it and I couldn't catch it before they edited it again. Afterwards I think they wanted the HRM article to redirect to Home Rule instead. Cheers Smartse (talk) 18:38, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - You will need help from an administrator. See Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves. --Teratornis (talk) 19:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] adding spaces between letters? Is there a way to add blank spaces between letters For example if I want to write a list like the following 1. Walt Whitman: xxxxxx 10. Walt Whitman: xxgggg
but I want the W after the 1. to fall under the same space as the W after 10.
is there a space code I can add to do that?
Thanks. Jonathan Ned Katz Jnkatz1 (talk) 18:45, 27 November 2009 (UTC) <blanked>
- The easiest way I know to force text to line up in HTML is to use an invisible table. Algebraist 19:13, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- See Help:Table and WP:EIW#Table. You can also use the {{column}} templates, like this:
- Walt Whitman:
- Walt Whitman:
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- and you can monkey around with the spacing to make it look the way you want. If you want to number consecutive list items non-consecutively, you have to use an HTML ordered list. See Help:List. --Teratornis (talk) 19:35, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Need for Disambiguation....or not? I would like to create a link from a person, Michael Shane, from the cast list in the article One Potato, Two Potato. No article exists yet for that Michael Shane, however there is a redirect to Matt Bentley, a professional wrestler that uses Michael Shane as a 'Ring Name'. At first I thought that this would be a case for a disambiguation, but now I think that the 'ring name' should not be a redirect, instead simply a reference in that article. If I remove the redirect, would that revert to a red link for Michael Shane on the One Potato, Two Potato article, and could it become an article on its own at some point, or is there a different procedure? Yunchie (talk) 20:02, 27 November 2009 (UTC) [edit] My text doesn't show Resolved. I have tried twice to ad text to a talkpage: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Arab_world&action=historysubmit&diff=328259179&oldid=328253156 But it doesn't show at the page. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - I fixed it. Someone had added a loose <ref>, earlier on the page and it was hiding the rest of the page. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 20:54, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Alt text work Hi. I have been having fun adding alt text to images. But where does the text go? Take the picture of Euler on the Mathematics page. So, we have "Euler, sitting at his desk with some papers yada yada yada". But various pages link to this image. Should I edit the mathematics page, or Leonard Euler? Or do these pages require different alt texts? Robinh (talk) 20:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - In this case, both pages could probably use the same alt text and you would need to edit both pages. There are cases where different alt texts might be used. Imagine an image of a person sitting behind a desk. It is used on the following pages:
- Wooden desk - here you would use alt=A fine grained handmade wooden desk. Peter is behind it writing a manuscript
- Peter - here you might use alt=Peter with a thick woolly beard and his characteristic round hat sitting behind a wooden desk writing a manuscript.
- —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Help with Article Issues on Article Dear Admin(s) and or any authorized person, I would like to request help addressing the issues listed in the Article Issues box on the article page that I created titled Mekael Shane, so that we can ensure that its cleaned up and Wikified. Your assistance is appreciated.MatrixEditor (talk) 20:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - Well, let's start with the first line "a stalwart advocate for change, was born in the United States during a period of intense racial and revolutionary turbulence, which created prolific catalyzing events that reshaped and redefined the tenets of justice and equality in America." This says nothing about the person (other than that he is a poet). It says more about the time he was born. A period he doesn't even remember himself most likely. It's "media talk" and completely out of place in Wikipedia. I don't know this person, but a more appropriate introduction would go along something like this: "Mekael Shane (born sometime, somewhere) is an African American poet . His debut bundle 'aname' was featured by the New York Times and was listed in the Poetry Top 20 of Barnes & Nobles for 15 weeks. He received the 1995 Amazon encouragement prize for poetry for this early work"
- See the difference ? The first is an ad, the latter explains what someone does and why it was important. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:15, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Talkpage archive bot Resolved. I added an archive bot to this talkpage as there were some BLP issues that I wanted to remove but not delete from the talkpage and it has worked but it is not showing a link to the archives on the talkpage, could someone please have a look and let me know what I left off as I want to be able to do this on other talkpages. Off2riorob (talk) 21:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - Y Done diff —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks DJ I saw that was quite easy, but a bit messy, floating box. I really wanted to add the same as what is here is that possible? Off2riorob (talk) 21:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] would someone like to proofread? Hi, I am not a native speaker. I tried to contribute to ther article Gymnasium (Germany), which deals with a school in my country. Could you do me a big favour and have a look at it? User:Gonzonoir already helped me out a few days ago, but I have added some new stuff to the article. So that would be very kind of you if you could proof read it, starting with "Gymnasium and political and social issues" and if you could also tell me: 1. If that article makes sense to you 2. If you have questions about the school that have not been answered by the article 3. If I should add some stuff about scientific studies dealing with the Gymnasium. Recently a lot of studies about Gymnasium and social class have been done and this is a "hot topic" in my home country... but I am not sure if that is so interesting for people from other countries and I already covered it in the article. Thank you very much.--212.201.83.59 (talk) 21:27, 27 November 2009 (UTC) - I will do so; please consider moving to Requests for Feedback, a page devoted to the sole purpose of proofreading articles. Intelligentsium 21:33, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you so much!--212.201.83.59 (talk) 21:35, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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