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[edit] December 26

[edit] hi...

Hi,

I am VISHNU S UNNITHAN. I have just created a account to write something about me on wikipedia. IS it possible to create the page by us or may i post the page to you. So that you will publish it for me?. Please respond back to me.

thanking you

vishnu —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vsu47 (talk • contribs) 01:25, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, Vishnu. However, you really shouldn't be writing an article about yourself. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. You should also look at Wikipedia:Your first article, WP:BIO, and WP:NOT. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:29, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation of a minor previous entry to a new major entry of the same name

Hello,

For the past few weeks I have been compiling facts to create a new Wikipedia entry for the artist group named Celer, who was active from 2005-2009. I have all the necessary information, biographies, discography, sources, relevant links, etc.

In searching Wikipedia I found no pages created for the artist group Celer, but instead I found this one, created because of a mention in a book by Ovid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celer

My question is this.. Since Celer (the artist group) would be searched heavily, far more than the literary reference, should I change the literary reference to a minor article, but creating a descriptive addition to the link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celer (literary reference) or something like that..

or should I instead create something like this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celer (artists) for the artist group, and leave the other alone?

Doing a simple google search for Celer obviously shows there is more popularity directed towards the artists.

Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it, and thank you for helping me create a good information source for these important, and meaningful artists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Missing Symmetry (talk • contribs) 02:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I think that you should create an article called Celer (group). I am going to create a disambiguation page for Celer, which will link to the various Celers we have on Wikipedia. I will include a link to Celer (group) in anticipation of the new article! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:48, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I have moved the original Celer page to Celer (builder) and made Celer as a disambiguation page. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:09, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Administrator

Does anybody know where all the administrators are located so I can ask them for assistance? 24.189.90.68 (talk) 02:53, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

You can find the list here. Alternatively, you can use {{adminhelp}} and ask your question on your talk page, and an admin will come along and help you. ≈ Chamal ^talk ☃ 02:56, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 02:57, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] soccer

who is the premier league manager caught nvisiting a brothel? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.18.0 (talk) 05:48, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] RADHA the movie

Dear sir, we making a movie in kannada,indian langauge titled RADHA the movie, the website is under construction, anwe would like to use wikipedia as a source of information in reference to the movie RADHA, we request you to kindly guide me in this regard as to how i start and post the necessary detail , we also assure thaat we will strictly adhere to the guide lines set by your company —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muraligshankar (talk • contribs) 09:23, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Movies which have not actually been released are very seldom notable before release. The Notability Guidelines for future films says Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines'. If you think that this film meets those guidelines, I would suggest that you leave a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films/Future films and discuss it there. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Toolbox antics

Hi, I have created a toolbox without really considering what sort of thing goes in it. I have looked at User page help pages and have still not found an answer. Can somebody please tell me? Thank you. Rock drum (talk) 10:34, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you checked the user page design center? You'll probably find some ideas there. ≈ Chamal ^talk ☃ 11:39, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I have already done that. I'm sorry for not mentioning it before. Rock drum (talk) 15:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] erroneous article

The original entry on my father Charles "Chick" Parsons was a short and accurate biography of that man. Now it is not visible and has been replaced by a highly erroneous article. How did this happen? I do not want to spend a lot of time correcting the present one. But I would like to have the original available once again, instead of the one that is there now. thanks. How do I do that???-----PetercparsonsPetercparsons (talk) 11:55, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Autobiography#Problems in an article about you. Even though the article is about a relative and not you personally, that section should help. Dismas|^(talk) 13:03, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

The article's talk page discusses what happened. Thomas R. Fasulo edited and the article based on a book. He says he talked to you and stopped editing based on your feedback on the source he was using. It might be best to discuss your concerns more with him. I hope this helps explain what happened and there are a couple of suggestions on how to proceed from here. If you need anything else I will try to help. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 13:29, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] TOU violation?

I found a website that contains text from Wikipedia. I know that reusing texts from Wikipedia on other websites is allowed, but, according to Wikimedia's Terms of Use, shouldn't be there a link to the page's history so that its authors could receive some credit?--ATDC Raigeki (talk) 12:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:22, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Changing my archive bot

I want to change my archive bot and have added mizabot 3 to my talkpage, I now have both bots, User talk:Off2riorob could someone tell me what is the easiest way to transfer my archives to the list so I can remove the original bot. Off2riorob (talk) 16:32, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

I think I have sorted it out now, thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 17:10, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] moving from user pages to articles space

I have written an article in user space and now want to move it to article space. How do I do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiroshermes (talk • contribs) 16:55, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

You can only move pages when your account is autoconfirmed, which happens when your account is at least four days old and has made at least ten edits. You can request someone here move your page for you, but I think your draft has issues with its sources and notability that should be addressed first. I suggest you read Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft before a requesting it be moved. --Mysdaao ^talk 17:44, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] December 27

[edit] Table trouble

Why doesn't the films table in Barbara Stanwyck filmography have a line at the bottom? Clarityfiend (talk) 00:51, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

There was a rowspan="2" code which indicated there should have been one more row but the extra row was not there. This causes some but not all browsers to not display a line at the bottom. I fixed it.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 01:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

2009	Thanks
2009	Thanks

Clarityfiend (talk) 02:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] route location

coming from antipolo city which is the shortest route going to sm city north edsa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.105.177.241 (talk) 00:59, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Opening article drafts for review

I am working on the basics for a new article, currently located at User:Scottius11/Lancefield railway line, Victoria. What is the best way to request criticism/comments/improvements from other users before I move it out of my userpage? In particular, I need a bit of help with perfecting the Template:Railway line header. Scottius11 (talk) 02:02, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The best place to ask for comments is Wikipedia:Requests for feedback, and I see you've already made a request there. --Mysdaao ^talk 03:41, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Return/get first word of page title

Would it be possible through the use of a template or any other means to be able to quote the certain words from a page's title? Consider this page's title for example "Help desk". Is it possible by some means to write a code so that the word "Help" is written/returned? (or if this 'code' or whatever is placed on some other page it writes/returns the first word from the title) --72.241.13.250 (talk) 02:58, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I think a better choice of a word instead of quote would be return. Thanks. --72.241.13.250 (talk) 03:05, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

mw:Help:Extension:ParserFunctions##titleparts is the closest thing I know of, but is not exactly what you want. See the links under WP:EIW#Template and WP:EIW#Magic. You might ask on WP:VPT if you don't get an answer here. There is a mw:Extension:StringFunctions available for MediaWiki, but it's not installed on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 04:36, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The template is rather new, but it works: {{first word|{{PAGENAME}}}} -> Help —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:38, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

I was at the new pages forum and there are a lot of pages there that are vandalism, so I tried marking them as that and it worked with ((Vandalism)) (but with the other kind of brackets). Are there other ways to mark pages as pages that do not belong? There's a new page called Ispystrangers as an example that may not be vandalism but it is just a blank page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady in polka dot (talk • contribs) 03:18, 27 December 2009 (UTC) Oh I didn't sign.--Lady in polka dot (talk) 03:22, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

You may want to take a look at WP:NPP and WP:SPEEDY, those pages might help you out. ArcAngel (talk) 03:28, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] creating category article

at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard_2.0/Wizard-Ready_for_submission the article says that after creating a new Userspace draft "you'll see instructions on how to get your draft ready". when i did this ABSOLUTELY NOTHING APPEARED! Wran (talk) 03:43, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Do you refer to User:Wran/Egg breads? Maybe you misunderstand categories. See Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates. --Teratornis (talk) 04:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

yes, that's what i'm referring to; but i can't find anything in either of the links you give that adresses my question Wran (talk) 07:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The directions to create a category are at Help:Category#Category pages. Basically, categories are created just like any other page. Just add the category to a page using the category name you want. That will create a redlink to the category on the bottom of the page. Click on the redlink, add any information want to the category page, and then save it. Then add the category to other pages you want in the category, and that will automatically populate the list on the category page. --Mysdaao ^talk 16:08, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Umm kinda stupid question :S

Is there a page that tells me how to create a table/chart for Wiki? Link please? Thanks :) Cruise meerkat (talk) 06:39, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I think Help:Table is what you're looking for. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 11:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Marley

HI there - I am a member of the Marley Family and when looking at the Bob Marley page we found 2 mistakes under his personal information. Our web person tried to fix these mistakes a while back but was not allowed. Please let us know how to go about correcting them.

1 Bob Marley did NOT father a child named Imani Carole, born May 22, 1963 to Cheryl Murray (this person needs to be removed)
2 Makeda Marley needs to be removed as his child. Please note that she was born after Bob Marley's death and although she was initially acknowledged as child and received compensation from the estate at the time of his death she is not recognized as his child by the family. Please check the official Bob Marley website that is being maintained by the family members and under family you can see all the children. Please let me know if you can correct these 2 points for us. Thank you.Aniohevetotcha (talk) 07:40, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Because you are associated with the subject of the article, it is strongly suggested that you not edit the article because that is a conflict of interest. You should request the edits be made on the discussion page for the article at Talk:Bob Marley. Because Wikipedia policy is that content must be verifiable by reliable secondary sources, you should provide a source that says these two people were not Bob Marley's children, other than the official site. Because the official site is run by the family, it is not sufficient to verify what you say. --Mysdaao ^talk 16:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I have edited to remove these two from the main list, as they are not listed at the official site. However, since there are sources on the web that say that they are Marely's children, I did not think it proper to remove them completely, but described the uncertainty.

In the case of Makeda, I note that Meredith Dixon lists her as Marley's daughter, unsurprisingly given you say she was at first acknowledged. But I cannot add the information you give about her status subsequently changing without a reliable published source.

The case of Imani Carole is different: there are many places on the web that mention her, but I did not find any reliable ones. It would be within Wikipedia's guidelines just to remove her; but since there are so many places that mention her I thought that this would be unwise, as somebody else will just add her in again (still without a reference). So I have explicitly said that there are places on the web that list her, but the official site does not.

I realise that this does not go as far as you have requested, but as always Wikipedia's criterion is verifiability not truth. If there is a published source explaining that Makeda's status changed, or that Imani Carole is definitely not a child of Bob Marley, then this information can go into the article. But as it stands, I'm afraid we cannot accept the information you have given. --ColinFine (talk) 16:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sound clips

I've moved this from Jimbo's talkpage. Skomorokh 11:07, 27 December 2009 (UTC) Completely lost

OK, this is probably completely the wrong place to be but in 45 minutes of searching it is the first place I can actually post a comment. The last thing I want is to conceal my internet address.

I looked up the (British) NHS (National Health Service) for a book chapter I am writing. I found a number of significant sound clips but clicking on any one of them brought up the message "this is not available in your area". We are talking about items that are 60 years old and so out of copyright. So what gives? Can anyone give me an answer?

OK, I have really low expectations of getting a reply.

Dr Guy Cox, <email address redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.173.16.156 (talk) 11:03, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address.
Are you talking about sound clips on Wikipedia? If so, could you give links to specific ones, then we can help more! If you are talking about sound clips on the web in general, many streams (both video and audio) are only allowed in the country in which they are hosted. For example, UK visitors to US websites can't see TV episodes. As for its copyright status, generally works are copyrighted for 50 years (see IPO's notes) - but the problem isn't the copyright, but the fact that you are trying to access a stream on a UK site from a non-UK site. You might want to contact the website owners and ask them about it.

Alternatively: Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.

As you left this question elsewhere, I am leaving a message on your talk page referring to this reply. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 13:06, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] adding a full article from an official source to the minimal bio already existing in Wikipedia

This is the first time to add information vs. edit existing info. We do not have time to incorporate more information into the existing biography of Doris Twitchell Allen, but have found an excellent full length aricle on the CISV Youngstown Ohio website that offers a lot more information about DTA. Is it possible to just copy and paste this article and provide the source citation? Is there a special way to do this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Allen existing article

article we'd like to add: http://youngstown.cisvusa.org/basic%20information/Doris%20Twitchell%20Allen.htm

Thank you for your help. Katie and John Greenman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jayfrancis (talk • contribs) 15:13, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, probably not. First of all, Wikipedia cannot accept copy/pasted material where the copyright status is unclear. If you own the copyright to the material in question, then this page can help you. Secondly, the article is written from a very positive slant and Wikipedia articles should be written from a neutral point of view. The best way to use the document provided is to verify some of the facts listed in the article and cite your source. TNXMan 15:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] ridding an article of inappropriate templates

I was still in the process of creating the page Ed Naha when objections regarding originality, notability, references, and neutrality were raised, even though a glance at the page history would have revealed that the article was in a state of rapid development. This shows an absence of good faith on the part of the editors imposing these templates.

I have posted to the talk pages of the objecting editors, but haven't gotten their attention. How can I best get a set of objective eyes to evaluate the article and these templates? Bustter (talk) 18:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

A good place to go to get comments is Wikipedia:Requests for feedback.

They're not assuming bad faith by adding those templates, even if you're in the middle of making changes. It's an important part of an article's creation to let editors and readers know about potential problems, so they can be resolved and the article can be improved. I see you posted messages to those users less than 2 hours ago. You can't always expect an immediate response, and there's no rush because on Wikipedia, there is no deadline. --Mysdaao ^talk 18:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Of course there is no deadline, yet the "rush to judgement" on the article's validity came within five minutes of its creation. If it's clear that I am working on a newly created article, shouldn't a "presumption of good faith" bring the presumption that I am addressing the very issues being raised? The two editors who saddled the article with their templates, had they noted that I was working on the piece, should certainly revisit it after my activity was done. Further, the challenge against Naha's "notability" is clearly spurious, as searching for his name in Wikipedia itself demonstrates. Bustter (talk) 19:14, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

This is why it is often a good idea to work on an article in your userspace, and move it to article space when it's ready. --ColinFine (talk) 20:29, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Bustter, this is bad faith, when your editing is interrupted by a rush to tag. If it had been an attempt to assist you or improve the article, the tagger would not have interrupted your writing to tag. The article does have a lot of issues, particularly with the close paraphrasing, that need addressed. I will see what I can do to help with the article. There is no hurry to tag an article. The tagger can wait a day until you're done writing, the tagger can edit the article, the tagger can point you to resources. There are alternatives. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:35, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I agree whole-heartedly! For someone to jump in and start criticizing a writer's work before he has even completed composing its first draft are the actions of a braying donkey. Every writer deserves the necessary quiet time to simply write down his own thoughts and to edit or reorganize them before being interrupted by criticism. Doing otherwise is rather like interrupting a cook at his or her work, and interjecting, "I don't like the way that you are peeling that potato."
For Pete's sake, it is a work in progress.98.67.170.12 (talk) 14:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

If a user were judging the article's "validity", someone would have nominated it for deletion. That hasn't happened. Maintenance templates are not meant to attack the article. No article is perfect, and even very good, longstanding articles sometimes have templates on them pointing out ways to improve it. Please don't take it personally or be possessive of the article you created. All Wikipedia content is edited collaboratively (editing includes adding maintenance templates). Please read Wikipedia:Ownership of articles for this policy. If you want to request that other users not edit while you are in the middle of a series of changes, you can put {{inuse}} or {{increation}} templates, or another template from Category:Under-construction templates to let others know it is being actively worked on, as long as you remove it when you have completed your work. --Mysdaao ^talk 22:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

You know, it looks like the editor who tagged the article is trying hard to work withyou Bustter. Maybe go with it, instead of forum shopping. --IP69.226.103.13 (talk) 20:57, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

You are correct (wrt slashme, anyway) and I've conveyed my thanks to him. Should have updated here that the situation seems on the mend.

Anyway, I was not "form shopping." I asked a precedural question, that is, how to recruit a set of objective eyes to appraise the work, in one place -- right here, which I still believe is the appropriate place. Bustter (talk) 23:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Graphemes

There has been some discussion on Talk:Latin spelling and pronunciation about the use of chevrons/angle brackets to represent graphemes - for instance "macrons are frequently used to mark long vowels (‹ā›, ‹ē›, ‹ī›, ‹ō›, ‹ū›)" - my view is that the chevrons are ugly, unnecessary and distracting and this would be much better written as just "macrons are frequently used to mark long vowels (ā, ē, ī, ō, ū)" - the letters are here being used to represent themselves and the situation is therefore quite different to the use of slashes and square brackets to indicate that the letters they surround have a special phonemic or phonetic value. Ohters clearly take a different view. I'm not sure if this is the correct place to raise this issue, but if not perhaps someone could advise me where it should be raised. --rossb (talk) 19:27, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The place to discuss it is exactly where it has been discussed (where there has been a fair bit of discussion). If you really can't agree than see dispute resolution. But what you have done here looks a bit like "They won't listen to me there so I'll come and find somebody else to complain to". Apologies if that is not what you intend. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I think the point I wanted to make is that only a few people have participated in the debate on the article in question, but it's surely a more general issue which ought to have a wider airing. I note for instance that the grapheme article has no mention of this convention --rossb (talk) 22:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't mention very much of anything, including any references. It does however use the convention twice, even if it does not explain it. I have rarely come across the term 'grapheme' in linguistics (it's relevant to a rather specialised subfield, that of writing systems) but I am very familiar with the use of chevrons to enclose characters of a script (rather than graphemes stricto sensu) as opposed to sounds (whether phonemes or morphemes). --ColinFine (talk) 00:14, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Alt text parameter for an infobox

Help please Can someone add a parameter to Template:Infobox Bibliography to allow for alt text? Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Please discuss at Template talk:Infobox Bibliography. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:57, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Done —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:16, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Fix

Resolved.

Can someone fix this page Tennis at the 2009 Southeast Asian Games - Women's Doubles? Thanks in advance. Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 19:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

A link was closed with a single bracket. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 20:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 09:30, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] 1.000.000

hi guys.

the german wikipedia now has a million articles on stock... =:-) seems you'll have to create a new cat on the english main (bottom) site at "Wikipedia languages": more than a million articles.

anyway, thx for all & have nice 2010. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.202.51.173 (talk) 19:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It has been sorted! Incidently, if anyone wants to add to my congratulations message on the German Wikipedia, I've put it here: de:Wikipedia_Diskussion:Eine-Million-Artikel-Seite#Herzlichen Glückwunsch aus der englischen Wikipedia-Editor (Congratulations from an English Wikipedia editor) - and if anyone can do a better translation of the phrases I used, please feel free to add them! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

I should add that I didn't sort it (as the template is fully protected), but I asked for it to be done, and an admin did it -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 21:38, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you PhantomSteve, I owe you one... =:-) Again, thanks to everone ('round the world) for this project -- thank you, and you all have a pleasant 2010, will you? Off now for a new years trip to Crete (Greece), 27 °C weather prognosis for the next week... =:-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.202.42.81 (talk) 05:02, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] something is wrong with an article

If you think something is wrong, or misunderstand what is being said, how do you know and contact the person that has written it ???

As it says on the Potential energy page;

If the work done moving along a path which starts and ends in the same location is zero.

How can something move alone a path and back and have zero work ??? As mechanical work is the amount of energy transferred by a force acting through a distance

Mind you I just thought of this, BUT IT DOES [u]NOT[/u] say there was any work done on the path !!!

<redacted email address> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Waynesplash (talk • contribs) 20:43, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address.
The best place to discuss it is on the article's talk page (in this case, Talk:Potential energy. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 20:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

IIRC, the phrase you have quoted, far from being incoherent, is the definition of a conservative field. --ColinFine (talk) 21:52, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Federal Ruling

I'm trying to find federal court ruling on the following topic: Maybe you have some suggestions!
The topic is:
Attorney and client priviliege when it comes to business records. These would be records used to file their tax returns with the state as-well-as with the IRS. Note:
I am currently a plaintiff in a civil case where-as the defendants attorney are claiming that such business records are priviliege, and I am claiming that such records are by nature public when they can be used for filing taxes and for making business and marketing promotional packages. Do you think that anyone can help me?
Manly R. Willis
Email at: (removed, we don't give email addresses here, spammers will love you) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.223.209.141 (talk) 21:27, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

You could try FindLaw or another legal search engine. This Help Desk is only for questions directly relating to Wikipedia; for all other knowledge questions, including this one, the Reference Desk is better equipped to help. Xenon54 / talk / 21:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

It should be noted that the Reference Desk is unable to offer legal advice to our readers. Your attorney should be familiar with these references; if you don't have an attorney, you should probably consult one. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 17:41, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] December 28

[edit] english grammar

Hello,
In this article Destroyer of Worlds, there is a part that says "I am become death, destroyer of worlds". How is this correct in english ?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.12.233.111 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

It's not grammatically correct English. It's a famous quote from J. Robert Oppenheimer when helping to create the first nuclear weapon. He himself was quoting the Hindu scripture Bhagavad Gita. See Bhagavad Gita#Influence for more information. --Mysdaao ^talk 02:00, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Why didn't Oppenheimer translate it correctly then ?

Correct translation is not always defined exactly and language changes. I found a discussion at [2]. Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

It is not incorrect English, just rather archaic. There are many examples in the King James Bible of "am/are/is become" where modern usage would prefer "have/has become". --ColinFine (talk) 00:15, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] citations

I've created a couple and help maintain several articles on Wikipedia. As with most contributors, I take this seriously. Although I cite often on my contributions, I was curious about Wikipedia's standard for citing on articles that are basically a blurb or summary of another main article.

For example, look at Major League Baseball scandals. There are very few citations. However, most of the categories are referencing main articles elsewhere on Wikipedia which do have citations. Does the Wikipedia standard require these articles have the same citations or does the reference to the main articles that have the citations suffice?

Thanks in advance for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjb (talk • contribs) 02:57, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Verifiability is one of Wikipedia's main content policies and must be adhered to. All articles require sourcing, regardless of size. Jeffrey Mall (talk • be merry) - 03:26, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

My take on this is that although the main articles have citations, the 'sub' article also needs to have the citations, even if they are repeated from the main article. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Me and Sockpuppetry

How do I delete a second account that has me listed by another name?

I do not wish to use the second account, and had completely forgotten about it.

Beaconmike —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beaconmike (talk • contribs) 05:44, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

We can't delete accounts due to attribution. You could change the userpage of the old username to include {{User_Alternate_Acct}} perhaps? — Deon^talk 08:00, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] New User Help (merged)

I have translated an entry. I need assistance to upload the translation? The file is in WORD now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conefor4200 (talk • contribs) 06:56, 28 December 2009 (UTC) I have translated an entry. I need assistance to upload the translation? The file is in WORD now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conefor4200 (talk • contribs) 06:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Conefor4200, welcome to Wikipedia. Because you have not yet fulfilled the requirements for autoconfirmed (10 edits, 4 days); you can make a request for it to be included at Articles for Creation. Cheers, — Deon^talk 08:24, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Only autoconfirmed users can upload files, for example images. Word files cannot be uploaded. An article is not a file. New users can create articles right away. See Wikipedia:Your first article#How to create a page. Articles must use wiki markup. If you have formatted the Word file then you can try Wikipedia:Tools#Importing (converting) content to Wikipedia (MediaWiki) format. If the Word file is basically just plain text then copy the text and add some wiki markup to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Image reversion

I tried reverting to the earlier version of File:Gottlieb.jpg, but it didn't work. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

I've reverted it for you, not sure what happened. FYI, in the future, you can link to (but not display) a picture, by including an extra colon, eg: [[:File:Gottlieb.jpg]] produces File:Gottlieb.jpg. Cheers, — Deon^talk 07:57, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Why is the painting still showing up in the Sig Ruman article? Clarityfiend (talk) 05:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

It isn't for me. Try to bypass your cache if you still see it. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

Why was "edit=sysop move=sysop" changed to "edit=sysop (indefinite) move=sysop (indefinite)"? "edit=sysop move=sysop (expires X)" to "edit=sysop (expires X) move=sysop (expires X)"? jc iindyysgvxc (my contributions) 08:39, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

It's a reflection of a software change that now allows move-protection and edit-protection to have distinct expiration dates on the same page. Someguy1221 (talk) 08:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] search/go

What is the difference between SEARCH and GO?

^{[details removed]} —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.53.120.9 (talk) 16:38, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

If you click "Go" it will go directly to a page with the title you entered, if one exists. If it does not exist, it will load a list of pages with the search term entered. If you press "Search" it will load a list of pages with the search term, whether or not a page with that title exists. More information on this can be read at Wikipedia:Searching. --Mysdaao ^talk 16:46, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Favorite articles

Is there any way of storing a list of my favorite articles ? I would suggest this as an option.

Thanks and regards Maxi Moscardi M4RLO WIKI —Preceding unsigned comment added by M4RLO WIKI (talk • contribs) 16:58, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

You can add them to your watchlist if you'd like. Simple click on the "Watch" tab at the top of the article which you would like to monitor. Then click "my watchlist" at the very top of pages to view the list. TNXMan 17:04, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) There are two ways to do this:

Just bookmark the page(s) in your browser as you would any other web page
create links to them on your user page (here) by using the format [[article-name]] e.g. [[The Beatles]] or [[William Stanley (Victorian inventor)]] give The Beatles and William Stanley (Victorian inventor).

Just make sure that each link has at least one space after the ]]. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:09, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

There are also user scripts that can store favorite articles in other ways, such as WikiMark. --Mysdaao ^talk 17:42, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback rights?

Is this something that has been made available to all users in the beta version? I just noticed that I appear to have rollback rights, but I don't recall getting any notification on this, and to the best of my knowledge I have not asked for them. My question, I suppose, is multifold - is this a mistake? does everyone have the rights? have I been given rollback rights? do I actually have rollback rights, or have my eyes, in some sort of strange collusion with the anti-delusional centers of my mind, conspiring to drive me further toward the edge? (Given their track records, I strongly suspect the latter). If I have been given the permission, cool. It would come in handy now and then during my recent edit patrols..... Thanks Vulture19 (talk) 17:07, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

You don't appear to have rollback rights according to Special:ListUsers/Vulture19 -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:15, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you installed Twinkle by any chance? That would cause the term "rollback" to appear near recent edits. TNXMan 17:25, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

DING DING DING we have a winner. Forgot I did that a while back..... Thanks to all.Vulture19 (talk) 17:29, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gadgets

I wish to install one or more of these. In the installation instructions it tells me to insert a line of code into monobook.js. How do I access monobook.js and where can I get detailed information on doing this so that so I can use the gadgets?

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Traralgon (talk • contribs) 17:23, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Your monobook is located at User:Traralgon/monobook.js. The gadgets you wish to install should have instructions on how to add the code to your monobook, for example, see WP:TWINKLE#Installation. TNXMan 17:27, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] guardian ad litem

I believe a guardian ad litem has additional functions in some cases not mentioned on Wikipedia.That is it can be to protect the interests of those not yet in being, and interests not yet ascertained. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.41.54.7 (talk) 18:21, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, i found it at [3] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Huik01 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Problem editor

Hello. Can someone please help me with Huik01, who is posting offensive messages on my talk page and on Talk:Northwest Airlines Flight 253? Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:39, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Already zapped. TNXMan 18:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How to correct bulk misspellings in Wiki Commons images

As a member of the Typo team, I have discovered (via an advanced google search for the word "relase" in wikipedia.org) a common misspelling in many images that appear on WikiCommons. The text in error "Orginal NASA relase" should be "Original NASA release", both Original and release should be corrected. One example is File:Delta II 7925 10C fairling is ready for installation oround THEMIS.jpg, there are many many others. Is there an easy/efficient way to correct these, perhaps a spell-check bot? My WikiGnome energy is rapidly depleted on edits of so many pages. Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 19:39, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

See the links under Commons:COM:EIC#Bot in particular Commons:Commons:Bots/Work requests. --Teratornis (talk) 20:00, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. A work request has been added here Cheers. Truthanado (talk) 20:14, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] InfoBox and notability question

I created an infobox by copying and pasting infobox code from your infobox instructions. That worked except that the box isn't aligned to the right of the first line of the article such as a right column. How do I do that within userspace?

I would also appreciate it if you can review the test article I created on the Health Care Innovations Exchange program which involves a Web site to determine whether it meets your notability requirements.

HCIE.author (talk) 23:08, 28 December 2009 (UTC)IE Author

It will align if you remove the <noinclude>{{Documentation}}</noinclude>. Btilm_{Happy Holidays!} 23:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Note that the username HCIE.author may violate WP:ORGNAME. --Teratornis (talk) 23:35, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How to edit a title

I've created and edited an article about a director, but I accidentally left his last name all undercase. I was looking for a way to fix this and can't find one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.14.45.12 (talk) 23:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed accounts can move pages. If your account is not autoconfirmed then you can post the article name here and somebody else can move it. You posted here without being logged in so I don't know the name or status of your account or article. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:30, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A PENNY OF YEAST

i AM LOOKING FOR A MEASUREMENT FOR A PENNY OF YEAST THAT IS IN A RECIPE BOOK. AMERICAN GERMAN COOK BOOK FROM THAT MID WEST EARLY 1900'S. MY EMAIL IS <redacted> thank you gary meixner —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.189.167.220 (talk) 00:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I removed your email address. No one will email you, and posting your email address on a public website opens you to spam abuse. The question you asked would be best suited for the Reference Desk instead of here. --Jayron32 00:52, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

And there too the people will appreciate not being YELLED AT.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:36, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] frustrations at being booted out.

I spent 2 hours on the ron barassi entry which was marked for neutrality, structure, citing etc.

I was near the end. I had restructured, removed "glowing", found sources for most of the information - and included it.

I went to add a reference australian-rules-football . suite101 . com/article.cfm / australian_footballs_irish_experiment and it just automatically booted me out and deleted all the changes. If you have an issue with the reference page (I can't see why) you should warn people rather than undo everything. It is really frustrating when you are attempting to so something that no one else has touched for 2 years to have this happen. Or maybe it has happened to many others over the past two years. Hope you can think of some way to solve this problem as I will be reticent to take on such a big job knowing that this can happen Gervo1865 (talk) 01:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Did you receive an error message when you tried to save? No one reverted your work to Ron Barassi, and the automated filter did not block any of your edits. It looks like it was just a technical glitch. Errors like that are more likely to happen the longer you keep the edit window open, especially if its been open for over an hour. Someguy1221 (talk) 02:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Gervo1865 shows 5 saved edits to the article around an hour before your post here. suite101.com was blacklisted after a lot of spamming so edits with links to it cannot be saved. See meta:Spam blacklist/Recurring requests#suite101.com. If you use your browser back button then you may (depending on the browser) get back to an edit window containing the text you tried to save. The spam filter message says "Return to (page you were editing)", but that link does not give a window with your text. Edits blocked by the blacklist are not shown in the filter logs Someguy1221 probably looked at so we cannot see your attempted edit. You can copy text in the edit box to a text editor or the clipboard before trying to save or while making large changes. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Signature

There was an editor who had a signature with a white border, and a white background. Like, the border was indistinguishable from the background itself. And it had a sort of Windows XP feel (compared to, say, a Windows 98 feel of a signature that looks like it's been made in Paint). And the color wasn't really white either. It was sort of a shiny white and the text was inside the "box". I know I'm not describing it very well, but I'm dying to get the above signature, and I can't remember who had it... So if you remember, or you think you remember, please please post here. 5:40 (talk) 05:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] why don't you put advertisement ?

hello all, I am very happy to find site like wikipedia. I had been always find initial guidance through this site and found much valuable materials of all major/minor subjects. I have heard and also saw on the site that, site need a financial support to maintain the site. As, professional in IT world, I have seen putting advertisement on site can give handsome income to hosted site company, and wikipedia is one of the most hitted site on internet. So, why don't you guys are putting advertisement on site to gain money rather then appealing from users. This is big question of hundreds of users and readers of wikipedia. I guess there must be a strong reason for not doing this. Please tourch some light on this question. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.131.103.131 (talk) 05:52, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Advertising for more on this. The basic idea is that Wikipedia is not to be beholden to any interest except the general advancement of knowledge. Accepting advertising would compromise the basic principles of Wikipedia. --Jayron32 05:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Twinkle

Hello, for some reason i cannot use twinkle. I already enabled it on Preferences. And im using Firefox but i dont see the Rollback buttons. What do you think is the matter?--GeneralCheese 08:08, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Firstly; are you using the modern skin? If you are, then you will need to go to Preferences > Library and compatibility gadgets > and tick "Compatibility function".

Secondly; are you using an older version of firefox? If you are, then you will again need to go to Special:Preferences > Library and compatibility gadgets > but this time tick "JavaScript Standard Library"

Please let us know whether this works or not. Kind regards, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 11:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

You are not yet a confirmed user; this requires four days and ten edits. See Wikipedia:Twinkle ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 14:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] What categories are not showed in the lower part of the page?

I want to find categories for all pages, then I use the `categorylinks` table and `page` table. However, I found that the result categories I found are different from what are showed in the webpage. For instance, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_accessibility is showed to be in the category `Computer_accessibility`, but in the table it is in two categories `Computer_accessibility` and `Spoken_articles`. So where can I found whether a category is showed below the web page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.46.92.16 (talk) 09:11, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Not sure if I quite understand your question, but it appears that you want to be able to view hidden categories. These are normally categories that relate to the project itself, for example, maintenance categories such as CAT:CLEANUP are normally hidden. To show these categories on the page you will need to create an account, which is quick and requires no personal information beyond a user name and password, see: Special:CreateAccount. Once you're logged in you will need to go to Special:Preferences, click on the appearance tab, scroll down to the Advanced options section, and tick Show Hidden Categories, then click save and clear your browser cache. You will now be able to view hidden categories on pages. I hope this answers your question, but if not, please say below. Kind regards, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 11:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How to handle information in article that has nothing to do with stated subject

What do you do with information in an article that has nothing to do with the article topic, however is otherwise generally encyclopedic, at least at first glance? Specifically, I'm talking about the last section of the Voting Rights Act. It seems the article seems to veer off onto a tangent regarding a the topic of a constitutional right to vote. Lulaq (talk) 10:23, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I suggest you look at the talk page Talk:Voting Rights Act to see if this has been discussed before. If so, feel free to join in the discussion. If not, it's also worth looking at the page's history to see if there are editing comments that relate to this. But in the end you have the choice of being bold and removing it - but make sure you put a helpful edit comment, and consider starting a topic on the talk page, perhaps including the material you've removed; or else, leave it in the article but start a discussion about it on the Talk page.

If you do remove it, it might be worth seeing whether it is duplicated somewhere else, or should be added into a different page. --ColinFine (talk) 13:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

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