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Welcome to my talk page, where you are welcome to leave a message at the bottom of this page for any reason at all and I will attempt to respond ASAP. I try to remember to respond on your talk page, and I mostly do, but if you leave a message here and for some reason i'm not replying, perhaps check back here from time to time :-)

My edit count. Backup if not working. 1,757 watchlist articles and counting.

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[edit] Lindsay Tanner references

I have to say I found your edit summary here a little rude. Moving the tag to a single section is incorrect, the majority of the article is unsourced and the tag applies to more than a single section. Given that most of the article could have been deleted under BLP policy, I hardly think adding the tag to attract people to improve the article is "pointless". From WP:TC: "In obscure articles with few editors, the templates can serve to attract attention to problems that have not been addressed. In articles that are heavily edited or discussed, templates can be used to indicate ongoing problems or disputes in order to attract outside help and caution readers that the content may be shortly subject to change. Unless otherwise noted, they should be placed at the top of the article." Jezebel'sPonyoshhh 02:31, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

It's been brought to my attention on my talk page that my comments above may have come off other than I had intended. If so, I apologize. I really was just trying to get more sources added to the article so that the multiple inline citation tags could be removed, improving readability. I always try to add references to articles as opposed to simply tagging them (as I had done here earlier in the day), but was on a time crunch. All's well that ends well though, as additional sources have been added. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyoshhh 04:14, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gordon Moyes

Timeshift9, there's no rational reason for the changes you have made. All you have done is remove factual information so I can only assume the intent is a personally motivated one / vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curleighandmowe (talkcontribs) 02:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


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Re the changes on Nathan Rees site. Information put is fully accurate, provable and citable. Please advise protocol difficulties. Wish right of free speech but realise obligation to Wiki is absolute accuracy. Not vandalism nor POV. Facts as printed in revertable objects. Advise ? Yours In goodwill.

[edit] WTF

9 CDP candidates in a total pool of 22 in the Bradfield by-election. ABC AEC Scary to think the amount that's going to cost in non-refundable nomination fees alone. Orderinchaos 02:02, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Australian Sex Party

The Australian Sex Party's logo, as displayed on the ASP article here on Wikipedia, clearly shows the colours red and either a deep yellow or orange. Is this acceptable to you, to use the colors on their logo? or does the term Party not mean they are an individual candidate such as an Independent candidate? BTW, I have done some editing on Nathan Rees I would like to read your detailed critisisim on my talk page or that article instead of a three word expert opinion. Watchover (talk) 09:20, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Yawn. Timeshift (talk) 22:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Your action of violating WP:BURDEN at a WP:BLP article

You have violated WP:BURDEN at a WP:BLP article, by your recent actions at the article Nick Xenophon. Do not do this again. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 03:32, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] November 2009

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 week for excessive violations of the biographies of the living persons policy.. Addition of unsourced content into a biography of living person, especially after a warning, is completely unacceptable. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below. NW (Talk) 03:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
This block was heavy-handed and ill-justified. I see nothing in this diff to justify a one week block. There isn't even 3RR at work here. I have unblocked, reverted the text (with the sole exception of the text about health difficulties at the end) and will refer my own actions to AN/I following this post. Orderinchaos 04:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I see something. Why? Because Cirt warned him in the section above this, yet Timeshift added it back again. I'm not going to wheel war, but the ANI will be interesting. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 04:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
The above sounded more like "Do not disagree with me or else", given it was basically a content dispute. Orderinchaos 04:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Nope. Was not a "content dispute". Was an enforcement of site policy regarding WP:BLPs. Cirt (talk) 04:50, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Cirt, per WP:BURDEN, should have allowed the uncontentious paras to remain with tags to draw attention to the fact they needed refs, before he went removing them with such a bitter attitude. Timeshift (talk) 04:47, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Per WP:BLP, any unsourced content on BLPs should be removed. Cirt (talk) 04:50, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] ANI notice

Hello, Timeshift9. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Cirt (talk) 04:17, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Scientology

Regarding your comment [1] at Talk:Xenophon - Please, take a moment to read through a few of the articles that I have successfully gotten to WP:FA status on the subject, and perhaps you will see that my intention at the Nick Xenophon article was not an attempt to denigrate the Senator, but rather to make sure unsourced info does not get re-added to a WP:BLP article. I think you have got the wrong idea about me. Cirt (talk) 06:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Peace dove

Comment: Here's hoping we can move past the prior conflict and work towards improving the quality on the article about Senator Nick Xenophon. :) Cirt (talk) 07:11, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I see you have yet to respond to above. I truly am trying to WP:AGF here and move forward. :) I welcome your positive contributions to the article Nick Xenophon, and I thank you for adding more sourced information to the article. Cirt (talk) 10:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
I think my response to cojoco below sums up my feelings succinctly. Timeshift (talk) 10:58, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry to read about the Nick Xenophon palaver

Hi, TS9, I was sorry to read about that palaver with NX. I hope that everyone's honour is preserved. I think I quite understand your actions in attempting to defend long-standing material, and added a note to say as much on the noticeboard. cojoco (talk) 10:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Mmm. I don't have too much to say. As my mother always said... if I don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. I do however feel vindicated by the words and actions of other various users and admins. That's all I have to say on that matter. Timeshift (talk) 10:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Citation templates

When adding new information and sources to the article Nick Xenophon, could you please utilize citation templates for the references, instead of simply giving plain external links as the cites? This will help to make things much easier as Orderinchaos (talk · contribs) and I work together to improve the article towards WP:GA quality-rated status. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 11:03, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but it's how i've been rolling for three years. Timeshift (talk) 16:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
They are quite easy to use, and like I said it would be most helpful in working together to improve the article to WP:GA status. Cirt (talk) 20:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Lack of usage of Edit summaries

When editing at the article Nick Xenophon, could you please try to use Edit summaries in your edits? This will make for a more constructive editing process, where we all have at least some semblance of what each others' edits are doing, as we work together to improve the quality of the article to WP:GA status. You can set a prompt to always have an edit summary or be told when you accidentally forget to do so, at Special:Preferences. Thank you, Cirt (talk) 20:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Per above. Please cease your demands, everyone edits their own way. Timeshift (talk) 00:25, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
It is not a demand, but a polite request. Thank you very much for using the word "please", I most appreciate that. Cirt (talk) 02:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Citing direct quotes

Direct quotes need cites directly after those quotes, not just at ends of paragraphs. Especially in WP:BLP articles. Please do not remove the {{fact}} tags until this is remedied (or the quotes are removed). Cirt (talk) 02:01, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

[2] = there are two cites following that quote. Which one verifies the quote? Cirt (talk) 02:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Fixed, by Orderinchaos (talk · contribs). :) We still have a couple other spots to cite fix. Cirt (talk) 03:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Rudd made a funny

In Question Time today: "The member for Pyne... the member for Sturt, the pining member for Sturt" Orderinchaos 03:48, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Kevin Andrews

Hello, Timeshift9. I noticed your revert on this article. I followed the 'trail' back to the 'editor' and found they had also vandalised the Fred Nile article. I reverted it so all ok, for now. "138.130.100.204" may need to be kept under surveillance, or a warning dropped on their page. --220.101.28.25 (talk) 08:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Liberals

I think that you'll be amused by this edit (which the IP editor has since reverted). Nick-D (talk) 07:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

WP:CRYSTAL vio! :-O --Surturz (talk) 23:16, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Use of "Sir" etc

Hi. In the edit summary of this edit, you wrote: sir and other prefixes are not to be used anywhere except the lead of that person's page.

I wonder if you can point me to a policy or consensus on that. Cheers. -- JackofOz (talk) 08:04, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Smirk

I was smirking like Peter Costello when I typed this. lol --Surturz (talk) 12:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Soap opera?

The woman later revealed that she wanted her estranged husband back, and that she has moved to Queensland.[3]
Perhaps the writers of "Home & Away" should be taking notes? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:55, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I think both points are relevant. Timeshift (talk) 12:56, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I don't know - or at least, I don't think it's irrelevant. That wasn't my point.
My point, which was supposed to be amusing, is that it is more interesting than "Home & Away" ...
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:01, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Apologies for misinterpreting your words.
Mea Culpa.
I can't believe quickly politics has changed here. I just hope like others who've been in his position that the electors don't care. Timeshift (talk) 13:15, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I expect that those who were, or were not, going to vote for him anyway, are unaffected. As for the "undecided", I hope that the state of the Murray, lower lakes and Coorong are of greater importance to them, than is Kerry Stokes making another million. (Though, if Stokes continues to buy Oz VCs that would otherwise end up overseas, then I guess I'm in favour of him making as many millions as he needs in order to continue to do so ... )
Ho hum. Bed time. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:31, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] An offer you can't refuse

In fact, I'd like to bet you that after the Next Australian federal election, Tony Abbott will be sworn in as Prime Minister of Australia. If I win, you will put a picture of a Liberal pollie of my choice on the top of your user page for 30 days (Maybe Abbott, probably Captain Smirk). If I lose, I put a picture of a Labor pollie of YOUR choice on my user page for 30 days. Have we got a bet? :-) --Surturz (talk) 00:55, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Coward :-) Look I agree that on paper, Abbott hasn't got a chance. But I'm hoping the electorate votes for the leader with principle rather than for the one without. Rudd never cared about an ETS, he only cared about wedging the Libs. I don't hear him going cap in hand to the independents. Even the Greens are against the CPRS, IIRC. --Surturz (talk) 02:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
This is the tragedy of the modern Australian Left that because their core ethos - the socialisation of the means of production - has been debunked, issues are only as important as their effect on the opinion polls. The ALP have been going on an on about the need to bring in the CPRS quickly but now it has been rejected twice they plan to reintroduce it a THIRD time in February?[1] Why not go to the polls and settle the issue? Because they don't really care about the CPRS, their only motive is to wedge the opposition. --Surturz (talk) 02:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Duncan Kerr

Gulp! The perils of copy-and-paste! Frickeg (talk) 03:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sex Party

Fixed. Someone (can't recall who) changed the template a while ago so that if you want the template to show up in infoboxes you now need to enter it in Template:Australian politics/party colours. I didn't challenge it because it seemed to me a rather good idea. I made a name template for the party too, so should all be in order to me. Frickeg (talk) 02:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Force?

I have no emotional investment in any of this, I am merely enforcing the wikipedia style. Telling me to "CEASE" in capitals mind you seems to think this is some vendetta, which is odd as I have not editted these articles... well maybe in two years? –– Lid(Talk) 11:19, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] November 24

Since you have been blocked in the past for edit warring, you know the rules. If you revert edits to November 24 again you will be blocked without further warning. Discussion on the topic is ongoing and evidently no consensus exists. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 02:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

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[edit] Check your email

I sent you a heap of polling stats re the 1972 election that I'd scribbled down years ago and found this morning while cleaning my room. Orderinchaos 00:43, 17 December 2009 (UTC)





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