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[edit] Communism

Dear Sandy, I know that you usually deal with the best of articles and not with the low-end ones, but you are one of the few experienced editors I know here and I feel that your advice and help could perhaps solve my problem. The problem is about the article Communism. I think that it is in a bad shape now - a rather unbalanced and POV list of communist sects, not a systematic explanation. I invested many hours to improve it (you know that I lived long years under a Communist govt so I am very interested in this matter) and my new version stuck for some time (this is the last version of it, after many colleagues changed it in this or that way). After some moths, an editor reverted it without previous discussion to the older version. I tried to revert back, but another editor, Bobisbob2, asserted that "my" version is not neutral enough and reverted again. I tried to discuss it (see Talk:Communism#Reverts to the previous version) but nobody else appeared and Bobisbob2 looks like a more able edit warrior than myself.

So my first question is: As an independent observer, do you think that "my" version is clearly better than Bobisbob2's? Perhaps I deceive myself and my text is really not as good as I think... And if you think that the current version is worse, what would you suggest me to do?

Thank you for your time. Best wishes,--Ioannes Pragensis (talk) 22:11, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

I have to think on this, Ioannes. I had a similar, unfruitful experience at Hugo Chavez, and finally decided to walk away, so my advice could be biased by personal experience and the lack of Venezuelan Wiki editors to help out there. Good to hear from you, and I see we have a Chess article proposed at WP:TFA/R; we should hear more from you folks in the FA department! I'll think on this and get back to you. Best, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:29, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
I understand your advice, Sandy. But on the other side, Communism is a too important theme to be left to communists. Much more important than a minor chess master from the 19th century. It would be really nice if you (or another experienced editor) could compare the two versions of Communism a tell me which one is better. Best regards,--Ioannes Pragensis (talk) 08:49, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] When you get a moment

...could I trouble you to read through this and offer feedback? I am trying to get our academy up and running ASAP now that I am back, but to do that I need input from others who have better understandings of certain wikipedia-wide operations.

Also, I gather from the number of posts ahead of mine that you lost a dog. Although I am not sure of the whole story (I've been more or less absent the last two months) I offer my condolences as well. Loss is always a hard thing to take, but the hurt is amplified by the amount of time we had before the loss. TomStar81 (Talk) 08:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] FA downgrades

Hi Sandy, I hope that I am not bothering you when you are busy. I have noticed that when FA's are downgraded, they seem to be downgraded to B class articles. Is this true or are my perceptions wrong? Should FA's not be downgraded to good article status? I am asking because I think if this is the case that it would motivate editors not to go beyond a good article, knowing if the standards slipped a bit over time, it would go straight to a B article rather than GA.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 19:55, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

When FA status is removed, the article is not assessed as a GA. This is because many of the former FAs don't meet current GA status (GA standards have risen too). The article would need to be assessed against the GA criteria, and FAR is designed to only assess against the FA criteria. Karanacs (talk) 20:34, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
That is a shame for the articles which would still meet GA standards but like you say FAR is not designed to assess against GA criteria; it would be nice if that could be changed one day. Thank you for replying.--Literaturegeek | T@1k? 10:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Did you get the article I sent you

Hey Sandy

Did you get the article on Trichotillomania I sent you? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:23, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Will look now; sorry, just got home, was going through my watchlist, and came across that unfortunate mess. Concerned because Una has done such things before. Will check my mail; thanks! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:26, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
The formatting came through in poor shape, so I've got to reformat it in Word to read it, but the first thing I noticed was University of South Florida ... which has been the source of some very poor research papers on TS. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Arbitration Motion's regarding Mattisse

The Arbitration Committee has passed a motion amending Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse The full voting and discussion for the original clarification and motions can be found here

  • Mattisse (talk · contribs) is placed under a conduct probation for one year. Any of Mattisse's mentors may impose sanctions on his or her own discretion if, despite being warned or otherwise advised, Mattisse repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to any expected standards of behavior and decorum.
  • Editors are reminded that baiting, antagonistic comments, and other such behavior is disruptive. Uninvolved administrators are encouraged to handle such circumstances as they would any other disruptive conduct, including appropriate warnings and advice, short page bans, as well as escalating blocks for repeated or egregious misconduct.
  • Editing of the the page User:Mattisse/Monitoring, as well as its talk page and any other pages created for the purposes of carrying out the mentorship, shall be limited to Mattisse (talk · contribs) and her mentors for the duration of the mentorship. Users wishing to comment upon any aspect of the mentorship may contact the mentors directly, or on a subpage designated for such a purpose. Modified by next two motions.
  • "Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Alerts" will be set up for the community to report issues to the mentors.
  • User:Mattisse/Monitoring is moved to "Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Mattisse/Monitoring".

For the Arbitration Committee,

Seddon talk|WikimediaUK 01:18, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Original Annoucement

[edit] contacting you

Sandy, a friend of a friend from your husband's hometown wants to get in touch with you. where can i send you his email address and number?Verdadseadicha (talk) 21:19, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

¡Qué mensaje misterioso! No me acuerdo haber mencionado aquí ni un esposo ni su lugar de nacimiento ... un hombre que pueda llamarse "my husband" debe ser un macho excepcional! Cualquier persona me puede mandar correo electronico por "E-mail this user" a la izquierda de esta pagina, pero eso no quiere decir que yo devuelva el favor :) Cordialmente, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:01, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Sandy is married to Wikipedia. MastCell Talk 22:12, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
'Ya missed that one by a long mile, dear MC :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
correo electronico - what a cool term :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
'Ya like that one? How about la red mundial? Or descarado? While we're on the topic, I'm still waiting for Yomangani to show up and fill a big hole in la red mundial; the lack of an adequate translation for this song anywhere on the 'net. I believe it can't be done without references to Prince Charles' love life, but if Yoman can do it, there's a full-pretzel bonus in it for him. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:40, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Is that an entree, or a dessert? MastCell Talk 22:37, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Neither. If'n you have to ask, you should turn off your computer and get some strawberries and chocolate to go with your champagne :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:40, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Way ahead of you. I never edit Wikipedia without a supply of chocolate-covered strawberries and Veuve Clicquot at hand. I'm not an animal. MastCell Talk 01:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I sure can't speak Spanish, but at least I can read it :P I love the language just because the extra punctuation always makes it sound more exaggerated in my head (maybe that explains the telenovelas). Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 23:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Mujer, donde carrizo esta el "email this user" seguro soy bruto pero no veo esa opcion. dame una manito y explicame donde en la pagina esta y te envio el mensaje que me pidio un pana tuyo que te hiciera llegar. Gui guich ju a merri crisma an a hapi niu yir!Verdadseadicha (talk) 17:46, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Que cariso "pana mio"? Lo dudo! Ve al lado izquierda de la pagina. Hay un "Toolbox" en el margin, despues:
What links here
Related changes
User contributions
Logs
E-mail this user
Upload file
etcetera ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:34, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Is it customary to address someone as "Woman" in Spanish? I reserve that term of endearment to Mrs. Moni when she's driving me right up the freakin' wall. Which is...you know...hardly ever... --Moni3 (talk) 18:41, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, when you're close friends. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:43, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Might it be worth it to you to put up a warning/caution notice on your talk page that statements written in Spanish will be put through Google translator by the majority English readers of your page, if not for the pure hilarity of whatever that thing was about bamboo and corduroy and gross'm? Perhaps notifying such contributors that they may sound like Jar Jar Binks would be a courtesy. --Moni3 (talk) 18:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Google translator doesn't work at all. Period. Plain and simple. Remember that when we get translated articles at FAC. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:11, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Where is bamboo coming from? It's much better to translate carrizo as male anatomy. Эlcobbola talk 19:14, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm holding my tongue on bamboo :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:25, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Should that read, not as Google translator suggests "Women where bamboo is the", but as "Woman, where the dick is the"? Skipping the fact that someone might ask where the dick is something, which I'm assuming is idiosyncratic to regional Spanish, how often do people ask on your talk page by addressing you as "Woman" and asking you where the dick is something? And what are you holding your tongue on really? --Moni3 (talk) 19:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
<sigh>Cannibalism and sexual innuendo. Today is an interesting day to be a talk page stalker. ;) Was I the only one who took way too long to realize that the last sentence wasn't Spanish but funkily-spelled English? Karanacs (talk) 19:43, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
güat is rang güit iu? Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:03, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Hell, I speak Spanish and I have no idea what the heck Sandy meant with the cariso line. Although "Where the hell is the email this user link" is sort of understood... hombres, no se fijen tanto en pequeñeces... Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:01, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Por lo que me cuentan, los hombres siempre se preocupen por pequeñeces, por mas que las mujeres le dicen que no importa :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:06, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Hey, careful spreading that nonsense around - you'll jeopardize my lucrative male-enhancement medical practice, and then I'll have no choice but to go join ILADS or something... MastCell Talk 20:17, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Deberían aprender que no son las pequeñeces las que importan, sino lo que hacen con ellas... :P Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 20:29, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Somebody run "preaching to the choir" through Google :) MC, you should give up on bats and start watching the mating habits of squirrels. Very Darwinian; I feel for the dumb slow one. He can't outchase the fast one, so he hides behind the wood pile, hoping to ambush her. But every time he stands up to see if she's approaching, his white belly gives him away. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:40, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I didn't realize female squirrels were so picky ([1]). Besides, why hasn't someone Intelligently Designed darker belly fur for the dumb, slow squirrel? MastCell Talk 23:13, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm watching grey squirrels. (No comment on ID and the slow dumbo :) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:21, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Reminds me of that time when a family friend had squirrels inside their house. They got in, somehow, through some opening on the roof. ceranthor 23:57, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Take care

It was good, it was bad, it was good and bad. Keep Johnson looking good. Ottava Rima (talk) 05:19, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1997 Qayen earthquake/archive1

Hi Sandy, I asked Karanacs to tell me what else was needed for this article but she hasn't responded. (e-mail) Do you think it's ready for promotion, and if not, what do you think it still needs? ceranthor 14:26, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Ack, I missed Tony1's new comments! Disregard the above. ceranthor 14:29, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] no chica, es en serio

Mija, fui al bendito toolbox y no esta la opcion de "email this user" te lo juro por mi madre. no hay nada. entonces decidi intentar el fulano "try beta" solo esta: What links here Related changes User contributions Logs Upload file Special pages y ya....no hay mas naaa. es en serio.

Sera que no tengo una cuenta de usuario que me permite mandate un correito? como hacemos? escribire en criollo pa que ni mandrake entienda. tu pana ya ha tenio contarto contigo pero estravio el correo. hagamos una cosa. que tal si nos anotamos conque el le mande un correito al marido tuyo por rostrolibro? :-) Verdadseadicha (talk) 01:17, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

(Comment, sorry for not writing in Spanish - I can kind of understand it but certainly not write it.) You probably have not set up an e-mail address yourself. You can do that under "Preferences" (in the top right corner) and then go to the bottom where it says "E-mail (optional)", and enter your e-mail address. Ucucha 01:21, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
As far as I know, all logged in editors should be able to see my "e-mail this user" link in the toolbox at the left hand side of my talk page. Are you looking at the toolbox on my talk page, or elsewhere? Someone else may know if you need to change something in your preferences settings to be able to e-mail other users, or why you don't see the "e-mail this user" link on my talk page, but plenty of people e-mail me, so I know my link is enabled. Since I doubt that your friend knows "el marido mio", sending an e-mail to a stranger about me might not be the best idea; keep trying to e-mail me. Or tell me, if this person has been in contact with me, what are his initials (nombre y doble appellido), and I will tell you if I know him. Please do not put any names here.
(ec) Ucucha is saying that lo mas probable es que no ves mi "e-mail this user" link porque tu no has establecido e-mail en tus preferencias. Hago lo tuyo por tu lado, y despues ve si aqui sale el link. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:26, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Vergacion! tenia razon UCUCHA. andaba yo mas perdio que un mucuchies ciego en el paramo. ya active la cuestion del imeil por lo tanto ya te mando algo por ahi!Verdadseadicha (talk) 01:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Esperando ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:41, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Recibido. Me hiciste pasar un buen susto por nada ... no me sigues proponiendo ningun maldito marido :) Escribo mañana cuando tenga más tiempito. Saludos, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:48, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

ay mi sen~ora, perdoneme... pero como le dije, ya cumpli con el mensaje. pasa ud. buenas noches!Verdadseadicha (talk) 02:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Zero rollo, pana ... despues hablamos. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:37, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Illumination

Hi, Sandy, wondering if you could talk to User:John Cardinal about ref consistency and what exactly that entails. I noticed he wholesale changed the ref style to Hey Jude and looking at his talk page he's been doing the same to other articles due to a misinterpretation of WP:CITEHOW (in the example of Hey Jude, he changed it from this to this, the latter implementing the use of Harvard-style cite templates). Other editors have brought the issue up to him regarding other articles but he doesn't quite grasp what's the matter, and I figured you might be better at explaining than I, particularly with your FA/FAR experience. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Happy holidays!

Best wishes for the holiday season and the upcoming new year! (To all of your talk page stalkers, as well. :)) –Juliancolton | Talk 16:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Why such a fast FAC closure?

Both Economic history of China (pre-1911) FAC's were closed in only a few days, while most FAC's last two weeks or more. Why? It is difficult to build a consensus in four or five days. Teeninvestor (talk) 14:03, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello?Teeninvestor (talk) 16:06, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
A message at the top of this page says that Sandy is traveling until January 1, and may take a long time to respond until then. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 16:19, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Railpage Australia

Think it's a sock FAC YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 23:19, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Premature closure

You seem to be getting a lot of complaints about premature closure. Fortunately, help is on the way. Merry Christmas. :) MastCell Talk 04:12, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Merry Christmas, Sandy!

I know you're not here, but have an exceptional holiday. The best ones are the ones you can't remember... May you wake up without a hangover in a bed strange to you. That's as far as I'm going with that on your talk page. Thanks for all the work you do at FAC! --Moni3 (talk) 13:40, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Same here Sandy. I don't have the bandwith or time to give you a proper, colorful 21st-century greeting, but hope that you have enjoyed your Christmas (holiday, if you wish) season. Cheers, Dabomb87Public (talk) 16:26, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Seasons Greetings and all that ...

Modern-Knight.jpg Happy Holidays
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. Ealdgyth - Talk 16:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Seasons Greetings

Artsy Christmas Tree.jpg Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and all the best in 2010! Yours, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 01:30, 25 December 2009 (UTC) Candy Cane Lane 4.jpg

[edit] Holiday greetings

Best wishes from a secret admirer. Finetooth (talk) 05:05, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] And now... yes, you've guessed it

Windbuchencom.jpg Here’s wishing you a happy end to the holiday season and a wonderful 2010.
Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:37, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Cerebellum

Hi -- I've pretty much completed my work on the article, though I may still do some tweaking. Once I got started, I ended up basically rewriting the whole thing from top to bottom. I'll leave it to you to decide what to do about that. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 15:19, 26 December 2009 (UTC)




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