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Contents 1 Smile 2 Codespring 3 Regarding Carlos Zambrano 4 Where is the "move" tab? 5 Military of Cyprus 6 WP:NEWT 7 Heavy lifting 8 AfD nomination of Hawaii Theological Seminary 9 regarding Foundation for the Preservation of the American Family (FPAF) 10 Schober Schubert 11 Kokoro 12 Lighthouse articles 13 FYI 14 Nelson Antonio Denis 15 The Word Alive 16 Nelson Antonio Denis (Peacock Terms) 17 Nelson Antonio Denis (Peacock Terms - Part II) 18 Question about RussBot 19 Nelson Antonio Denis -- Peacock Term removal 20 Thank You 21 Considering a change 22 categories 23 Calcium sodium phosphosilicate 24 double redirects 25 The Federation of Autonomous Priories of the Sovereign Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, Knights of Malta (KMFAP) 26 Removal of PROD from Oxford Road 13 27 Re: Holiday

[edit] Smile

[edit] Codespring

Posted yet again. Given the spammer's persistence, maybe it's time to protect the page? - Biruitorul ^Talk 16:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding Carlos Zambrano

I wasn't the first person to move Carlos Zambrano while the Requested Move discussion was going on, [1]. Also, I wasn't the first person to begin with the arrogance, "Zambrano, the pitcher, is by far the most well-known of the two Carlos Zambranos". Wikipedia isn't made solely for Venezuelans or for the United States; Carlos Zambrano (the football player) is highly well-known in his native country (Peru, added tha the plays for his nation's national team) and is also highly well-known in Germany (He has played all of his professional football career there, since a very early age; and is part of one of the popular teams of Germany). My argument boils down to the proposal for a disambiguation page. The two Zambranos have achieved great notability in their respective fields, and when fans of each of the particular sports will be looking for the articles of the respective athletes, it is unfair to give the priority to one or the other. If there was, let's say a "President" or "CEO" of a major company, named "Carlos Zambrano," then it would make sense to directly wikilink the name to him (then have a hat note leading to the disambiguation page); however, this is not the current case.--MarshalN20 | ^Talk 13:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Where is the "move" tab?

Hi -- you corrected my cut-n-paste move of Angelico Chavez and told me I could use the move tab instead. But I don't see that tab on any of the pages--just read/edit/view history. How do I find it? Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 16:38, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Well, it should be next to the history tab at the top on an article (two right from "edit this page"). Regards SoWhy 18:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah--found it--it was in the drop-down menu that I never pay attention to (the arrow next to View History). Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 18:53, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Military of Cyprus

Why do you insist on redirecting the MoC to the Greek Cuypriot National Guard when there are two de facto countries on Cyprus? And each with its own armed forces. The Cypriot National Guard of the Greek Republic of Cyprus and the Turkish Cypriot Security Force of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. --Degen Earthfast (talk) 18:21, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Because the Cypriot National Guard is the military of Cyprus. If you want to have a list of "military organizations in Cyprus," that would be a different story. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Which Cyprus is the CNG the military of then? Since there are two Cyprus areas run but seperate governments.--71.246.30.208 (talk) 05:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

As I understand the situation, the government of the TRNC does not claim, nor does any country in the world recognize it to be, the sole legitimate government of the entire island of Cyprus (thus making it different from the situations in Korea and China, for example). Only the (what you insist on calling Greek) Republic of Cyprus claims to be, and is internationally recognized as, sovereign over the entire island. Therefore, only the Republic of Cyprus military can be the military of Cyprus. The TCSF is a military force in Cyprus. The redirect should not come as a surprise to anyone; Republic of Cyprus is a redirect to Cyprus; Politics of Cyprus is an article about the Republic of Cyprus; and on and on and on. You are suggesting that Military of Cyprus should be treated differently than every other Cyprus-related title on Wikipedia. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] WP:NEWT

Hi there R'n'B. I want to inform you that you were unwittingly part of an experiment of newbie treatment in which I participated under a different name. The purpose of WP:NEWT is to determine how experienced users would be treated if they were new users and created sub-standard but viable articles. You can find a recollection of my experience at WP:NEWT#SoWhy's experience in case you are interested. Last but not least I want to apologize for having used your time in this way, diverting it from real work on the encyclopedia. If I can offer my time and services for anything you need in return, feel free to ask at any time. Regards SoWhy 08:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Heavy lifting

Are their bots that fix piped links or whatever it's called? ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:51, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

Before you ask on Bot requests, you might want to think about whether the links you want to "fix" are really broken. A lot of piped links are useful. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 16:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I mean if a page is disambiguated to fix the old links that need to be retargeted. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:57, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

See WP:DPL#Tools and reports. A bot cannot fix these links automatically because someone has to look at them and see what the meaning is, but there are tools to assist in speeding up the review. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:17, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Hawaii Theological Seminary

An article that you have been involved in editing, Hawaii Theological Seminary, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hawaii Theological Seminary. Thank you.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Ἀλήθεια 22:12, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] regarding Foundation for the Preservation of the American Family (FPAF)

Hi there! Thanks for your message The page was speedily deleted by Bearian (talk) yesterday (that's why you said it's empty), and I also message him about it just to explain the purpose of creating a page for the foundation. We will try rewriting it again with a neutral POV. Thanks again Freehelplist (talk) 17:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Schober Schubert

Hello,

would it be possible to put the Schober-article in the right section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.127.105.6 (talk) 11:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not understand the question. Which article? The right section of what? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:10, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I found it. In future, you can use this page to request creation of a new article, or create an account so that you can make new pages yourself. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:23, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Kokoro

I would like to move the novel to a subpage and move the disambiguation to the main page because I don't think there is a main subject. For example there is a Nigerian snack of the same name. But I have not completed work on my redirect fixing cyborg yet. Do you have any suggestions for how to resolve this problem in the meantime? ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:20, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

(just passing by) I don't think the snack food is something to rely on if you want to make such a request; this is a seminal work in modern Japanese literature. I'd suggest opening a move request through WP:RM if you want to see what others think. Dekimasuよ! 09:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Lighthouse articles

I've put in many references in various lighthouse articles to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Your bot has been altering it to University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Maybe you want it to be University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill? Thanks for your good work. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 19:37, 9 November 2009 (UTC) Stan

Can you give me a link? All the ones I've gone back and checked, such as Grosse Point Light, Old Michigan City Light, and Michigan City East Light, appear to have the correct link to University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Russ, I think all or most of the lighthouses in Ohio, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Indiana and Michigan. Start with Sturgeon Point Light. Then drop down to the Michigan lighthouse infobox, and follow those links. Go to Toledo Harbor Light and do the same thing to Ohio. Likewise with Milwaukee Breakwater Light and Wisconsin. Hope that helps. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 22:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC) Stan

My bot did not edit Sturgeon Point Light, Toledo Harbor Light, or Milwaukee Breakwater Light. I thought you had some concern about edits my bot made. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Russ, You are correct. I was suggesting that your bot might 'rethink' the edits you made (as to form, there was nothing 'wrong' with them, but form might be slightly different), and I was also inviting you to 'bot in' on these other articles. Sorry to confuse or mislead you. There are so many articles that I thought your bot might fix them in a direct and expeditious bot-like manner. Thanks. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 23:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC) Stan

[edit] FYI

There is a new category, Category:Latin name disambiguation pages, that is causing some trouble with the processing of The Daily Disambig (and possibly the toolserver). I'm not sure how to get that straightened out in either case, but I'm guessing you do. Dekimasuよ! 09:54, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

The articles in that category don't seem to contain any disambiguation templates (as listed on MediaWiki:Disambiguationspage, therefore they aren't recognized as disambiguation pages by the software or by the bot that assembles the Daily Disambig. Do you consider that a problem? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I shouldn't say that. My bot doesn't look at the disambig pages at all; all it does is count up the pages listed on Jason's toolserver report, and I don't know exactly what algorithm Jason uses to determine which disambig pages to list in his report. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:13, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll contact JaGa when I get a chance, then. Thanks for the reply. Dekimasuよ! 00:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

cf. User talk:Nono64#Latin name disambiguation pages. Dekimasuよ! 00:30, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nelson Antonio Denis

Dear R'n'B:

I saw your editing recommendations for the Nelson Antonio Denis article.

In-line citations will be placed into the article.

With respect to Peacock Words -- could you please help by listing the peacock words you found, so that they may all be addressed? Otherwise we may miss one, or several, which you feel are important.

Thank you for your assistance, and we'll get to work on it!

Regards, MBernal615 (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Word Alive

On certain websites it says that The Word Alive was on Billboards heatseekers # 15. Does this establish notability or do I actually have to have found them on the Billboard site to possibly have the page restored? Just curious, I'm not trying to annoy anyone. --Łoshɢooþii (talk) 02:36, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

If the page cannot be restored, please tell me sir. --Łoshɢooþii (talk) 21:06, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, the article was deleted as the result of a discussion, so you would probably get a better response by asking the people who participated in that discussion. According to the guidelines, "songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts" are generally notable; but like anything else, that must be verifiable by reference to reliable sources. Without knowing what sources you are planning to rely upon, I don't know how to answer your question. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:30, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure how to make the links but here are the url's.

• http://www.indiestar.tv/grafwall/labels/Fearless%20Records.html
• http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1226222

I hope these are reliable sources, but I'm just not completely sure. --Łoshɢooþii (talk) 21:37, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Also the discussion where the page that I created is here. You were the person who deleted it. I'm not sure if you knew cause you put the wrong deletion in the discussion link. --Łoshɢooþii (talk) 22:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

No, I deleted it because you had recreated it after the deletion discussion, and then asked for it to be deleted again. As for your other question, I don't know enough about these sources to comment. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the information you have provided me with. One last question? Am I supposed to talk to the person who deleted it the first time and the other people in the discussion? Just trying to make it clear what I need to do to see if I can get it restored. Sorry if I am bugging you sir. --Łoshɢooþii (talk) 22:14, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest you try asking User:Juliancolton or User:Krazycev13, since they seem to be somewhat knowledgeable about this topic. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:16, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your time Russ. --Łoshɢooþii (talk) 22:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nelson Antonio Denis (Peacock Terms)

Russ,

I provided in-line citations for the Nelson Antonio Denis article.

When you get a chance, could you please inform me of the Peacock Terms that you think should be addressed?

This would help me, so that I don't miss any PT's which you think are significant. I want to make sure I address all of them.

Thank you for your assistance!

Regards,

68.173.125.102 (talk) 07:50, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nelson Antonio Denis (Peacock Terms - Part II)

Russ,

I wanted to make sure you received my correct signature for the above note (Nelson Antonio Denis - Peacock Terms).

I typed the four tildes but it yielded something else.

Here it goes again (with correct signature) and thank you for your assistance.

Regards,

MBernal615 (talk) 07:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Question about RussBot

I see that Template:Room is listed on User:RussBot/DPL/Templates. I am not certain what listing it on that page means or does. The links listed there are to disambiguation and/or redirects. The template is supposed to link specifically to certain disambiguation and redirects in addition to specific targets. That is because many terms (hallway/passage/corridor, or living room/lounge) have slightly or significantly different current or historical meanings. It is good to have direct links to these alternate article titles, though they are visually identified as being effectively synonyms for the main term. I just wanted to check that your bot isn't likely to go through and rewrite those links attempting to "fix" something that's not actually broken. Thanks! —Willscrlt ( “Talk” ) 08:50, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

That list is now outdated; a more current list of the same information is available at http://toolserver.org/~jason/templates_with_dab_links.php. It means that the template contains links to disambiguation pages; simple as that. Whether the links are appropriate or not is something that editors need to determine using their own judgment. In the majority of cases, however, it is more helpful to readers to link directly to articles about a substantive topic than to disambiguation pages. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nelson Antonio Denis -- Peacock Term removal

Russ,

I did not receive feedback from you regarding the Peacock Terms, but I went ahead and identified/removed what could be construed as PT's from the Nelson Antonio Denis article.

Please review, and thank you for your assistance.

Regards,

MBernal615 (talk) 02:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Russ,

Thank you for your review of Nelson Antonio Denis.

The page is stronger now; the in-line references a big help.

Regards,

MBernal615 (talk) 18:37, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Considering a change

Heya, I've been thinking about that A1 article - its list of links is almost entirely redirects and is still pushing 100! It bugs me that A1 pretty much is guaranteed a permanent spot on our list from now on, and you gotta figure there are more like this.

So I'm thinking about not counting redirects as links. Still count links through redirects, but not count the redirects themselves. It'll take some work, but I've some time off coming up so I'll have the chance to do this.

What do you think? It would greatly affect the numbers, but that may be a good thing, since a redirect to a dab isn't necessarily undesirable. And redirects would no longer give undue weight to dabs' link count. --JaGa^talk 12:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I would agree with that entirely, if you can program it to work that way. For the pages that I monitor, I don't count redirects as links. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:55, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

OK, I've coded the change. I'm not going to make it live before hearing from you, but I'd like to deploy it for tomorrow's run. The only way it'll affect you that I can think of is about 9,000 dabs will leave the list, which could be a problem for TDD. --JaGa^talk 17:39, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Be my guest. The only problem for TDD might be a little bit of bloating of the hidden lists for one day, but that's not a big deal. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Done. We'll see how it goes tomorrow. --JaGa^talk 18:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] categories

Thanks for the information, and fixing Category:Maritime incidents in xxxx etc. That was really bothering me ;-) Bonewah (talk) 14:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Calcium sodium phosphosilicate

Hello R'n'B, I wanted to create an article for "Calcium sodium phosphosilicate", but it seems you deleted one at 8:11, 20 July 2009. I don't know why ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Galmicmi (talk • contribs)

I deleted it because "‎(One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page (CSD G7))." In other words, it had nothing to do with the topic or content; someone created a page (which contained the text "hh") and then decided it was a mistake and blanked it. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:07, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your answer, I created a page for Calcium sodium phosphosilicate which redirect to NovaMin -- Galmicmi (talk) 13:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] double redirects

Hi, I fear I've made a bit of a mess in moving List of The Bill characters to List of characters of The Bill along with its associated lists. I'm in the process of manually fixing the double redirects but there are over 100 (the name of each character redirects to the list entry, which redirects to the new title), thus, any help from your bot would be very much appreciated! Regards, HJMitchell You rang? 02:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

• It looks like Xqbot has already taken care of it. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Federation of Autonomous Priories of the Sovereign Order of Saint John of Jerusalem, Knights of Malta (KMFAP)

Hy

I have now more resurses books articles defending my article that the federation talked about is not tha sem and not a hoax.

Please, could you help me edit this article and make it stay on the wikipedia.

Thank you. Gall T. Barna (talk) 15:53, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of PROD from Oxford Road 13

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[edit] Re: Holiday

Thank you for your efforts to clean up the Holiday page and create a disambiguation page. Now, what do you propose should be done with the 800 or so other articles that contain links to holiday? In particular, what do you propose that {{Holiday-stub}} should link to? I can't figure out what specific type of holiday a "holiday stub" might relate to. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:51, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

I am planning to work on that in the coming week. I just cannot do it all on a single day, since it is a major effort. There are also a number of changes I am yet to make to the articles to which this has been split. Besides, there is a lot of discussion that is yet to be held on this in the coming days to work out certain issues, and I am waiting for it to be initiated. Tatterfly (talk) 23:03, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Please note that I have created a new template called {{converted}} and given instructions on these types of changes at WP:USURPTITLE for dealing with this and future situations like this. Tatterfly (talk) 18:14, 29 November 2009 (UTC)