[edit] Thanks

For your support.--Nemonoman (talk) 16:38, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bhagavata Purana

I received T.S. Rukmani's A critical study of the Bhagavata Purana, Chowkhamba Sanskrit Studies, from the library today (had even forgotten that I had requested it!). Looks very interesting and readable at first glance. Intend to read it over this month and add pertinent bits to the BP page (haven't really been "editing" for some time). Hope you are doing well, and that we'll see more of you around these parts. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 19:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I see now that it was you who had recommended the book to me in the first place, way back in September ... :-) Abecedare (talk) 19:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear that - I ordered it a couple weeks ago from my slow backwater library (they usually come through in their own time). I'm hoping its arrival will coincide with having more time for editing. I'd like to see Bhagavata Purana brought to GA, though it's probably close enough even now. And it was a real treat seeing SpacemanSpiff at RfA! (though I need to tell him that using his RL name as his username may not be a good idea :-) the Zorg have good eyes...and big ugly ones at that). Priyanath ^talk 19:43, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

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I've started this case on Avatar's discussion page u r welcome115.252.34.64 (talk) 21:07, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I've responded there. Please stop edit warring, and allow other editors to discuss and reach a consensus on the talk page. This may take a few days, so please be patient. Priyanath ^talk 21:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Gayatri

Hi ! On http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayatri_mantra appears a significant update about the gayatri mantra. According to S. M. Hamsananda, (Le yoga de l'Amour dans la Force, nouvelles révélations, Albin Michel, 1990, 343 p., p. 215-226) quoted in the article, the mantra described and used untill now, know as the brahman's mantra is the Gayatri of the Iron Age (Kali Yuga) humanity has left in 1986 to enter in the Golden Age (Hiranya Yuga). The delivering of the new Gayatri of the Golden Age, remained secret untill now is also revealed, the translations, significations, and effects. The referring to Savitur is here, the changing part of the new mantra, replaced by "HAMSAH MANARAH MIRCHOAN", which meaning is close to the ancient one. This is no more referring to the Sun (Savitur) but, the Divine Breath (HAMSAH) of the Absolute (similar to the expanding breath of Brahma), of the Column of light MANARAH, (bridge between Celestial and Physical realms, between God and Humans) and Synthesis of God's lights as one (MIRCHOAN). So this still refers to the same thing, principle, but given an other name, according to a cosmic change of age (yuga). I think such an updates needs to be considered and the french wikipedia article be translated to complete this wiki english article (about the same subject !) Ishadawn (talk) 22:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ishadawn, When I looked into this earlier, I saw that this doesn't meet the standards for inclusion in the English Wikipedia. This S. M. Hamsananda, even though he has proclaimed himself the "COSMOPLANETARY MESSIAH OF SYNTHESIS",[1] instead needs to be a notable scholar or neutral authority on the Gayatri Mantra. His views on the Gayatri Mantra might be notable to his particular spiritual organization or group, but not for inclusion in the Gayatri Mantra article on English Wikipedia. Alternately, if his views were covered by notable scholars, in academic journals for example, it might also merit inclusion. I didn't see that in my searches. Priyanath ^talk 01:36, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Kambojas (Mahabharata)

Can you take a look at this thing? It's more up your alley. I think this needs to be deleted as pure synthesis/OR, taking a few lines from the Mahabharata and blowing it out of proportions. What's your take? cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 07:03, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

A quick glance says it's a deletion candidate. I'll look at it again this weekend, and probably nominate it. Most of it is just about the Mahabharata, I think to try and make it look like a real article. It's interesting, if true, that the Kambojas were on the Kaurava side. Priyanath ^talk 07:12, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

It's a bit difficult to compare with translations, but I found five mentions of Kamboja in the Ganguli version (online) and one mention of Sudakshina. I remember a vague reference to the Kambojas being one kingdom that fought with the Kauravas (Rajaji's version, but can't remember any other mention in that). cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 07:19, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

There's some general mentions in Sabha Parva and the war specific ones in Shalya Parva. (more than the 5 I mentioned above actually, but most are just in passing, like they were part of a larger group or so on). cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 07:33, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I've put it up at AfD. Fyi, when I said it was 'interesting, if true...' I meant it in the sense that I found it personally interesting - it's not notable for WP. Also interesting is reading the references (dated and also not able to check them), where it claims that the Pandavas were actually Aryan invaders, and that the Mahabharata was a non-Aryan Kuru epic coopted by the Aryan Invading Pandavas. What I Learned on Wikipedia Today....

In further news, I tried moving Sudakshina Kamboja to Sudakshina, but wasn't allowed, since I'm of a lower caste (non-admin). Could you move it, or find someone uninvolved if you can't? Reliable Sources overwhelmingly call him Sudakshina, w/out Kamboja as part of his name. 16:47, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Probably the same for Kamboja Aupamanyava ---> Aupamanyava. Done. Priyanath ^talk 16:55, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll move it, I came across this series accidentally, basically this one chap is trying to rewrite history that the Kambojas ruled over entire Asia. The number of synthesis articles is ridiculous, and given that they are sourced to two dubious books (not held in any libraries), but books nonetheless, it's difficult for a lay reader to understand that the references are not good. I'm trying to tackle them one at a time. -SpacemanSpiff 17:03, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I've noticed this fellow. I also moved Kamatha Kamboja ---> Kamatha, but need help to move Chandravarma Kamboja ---> Chandravarma. There's lots more here, as I'm sure you know. Priyanath ^talk 17:15, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll take care of the move next week (need to do this bit by bit, or I'll lose my sanity!), meantime I think we should look at stubbing Sudakshina and Kamatha to only content that's reliably sourced. Most of it on Sudakshina appears to be conjecture right now. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 17:22, 19 December 2009 (UTC)