Contents 1 Welcome! 2 License tagging for Image:Gert steegmans.jpg 3 Re:2026 FIFA World Cup 4 Christian Vandevelde 5 Mmm... thanks... 6 belgian football 7 bribing scandal 8 User:Cool Cat/In many languages... 9 Canadian caper 10 Jean Rossius 11 Help editing pages, please 12 Luxembourg 13 salve! 14 Protected page 15 Icons 16 Samogitian Wikipedia 17 Welcome to Esperanza! 18 Belgian names 19 September Esperanza Newsletter 20 Hi 21 Belgian League Results 22 Albanians and Kosovo 23 UFWC 24 RE:Template standardizing 25 Football AID 5 – 12 November 26 November Esperanza Newsletter 27 Football AID 12 November – 19 November 28 Autoblock 29 Football AID 24 - 31 December 30 Football AID 31 December - 7 January 31 Football AID 28 Jan - 4 Feb 32 FAID 3-11 March 33 Template:2006-07 Football Leagues 34 Happy Birthday! 34.1 And from me! 35 Thanks 36 Replaceable fair use Image:Jackson_Stewart.jpg 37 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Jupiler League.jpg 38 Your user page 39 Zheyun Ye 40 Age tag for the the fb in, fb si and fb out templates 41 Minor edit marking 42 User page help 43 WP:ER 44 Re: Belgian First Division 2008-09 results table 45 ITN 46 Nationality of Oleg Iachtchouk 47 Your Userpage 48 Source for goalscorers (Jupiler League 2008-09) needed 49 Opinion welcomed 50 Dates 51 Maxime Bouet 52 Brice Feillu 53 Happy birthday! 54 Invite to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Season article task force 55 Email 56 World Cup qualification template 57 Re: 2009-10 Belgian Division 58 Denis Odoi 59 Nils Schouterden 60 New footballer articles 61 Former World Cup matches

[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] License tagging for Image:Gert steegmans.jpg

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[edit] Re:2026 FIFA World Cup

Thanks a lot for the link to the source for the 2026 China stuff. Having read it, it does not change my opinion of the 2026 article. The FIFA vice-president mentioned is clearly talking in a hypothetical; he will probably not even be in FIFA when the decision is made. Accordingly, I have decided not to remove the PROD notice; if you wish to, that is your right and I will take it to AfD instead. With regards to 2022, I am deciding whether or not to keep it; for the moment, I will not PROD it, but if 2026 gets deleted easily I might nominate it. Batmanand | Talk 17:20, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christian Vandevelde

According to his Team CSC profile, the correct form is Christian Vande Velde. It is the most autoritative source I have found.--Per Abrahamsen 20:21, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I must admit that I have not found the exact correct spelling myself. Three things make me conclude the spelling is probably without the space:

• Most official sites mention his name without a space, as for instance letour.fr
• Google, which automatically searches for errors in queries, always ends up saying: Did you mean: Christian Vandevelde? when I type Vande Velde. This means that Christian Vandevelde is far more used than Christian Vande Velde on the internet.
• Last but not least, Vandevelde comes undoubtedly from Dutch, if he was Dutch or Flemish, the spelling of his name would be Vandevelde or Van De Velde. Both meaning 'From the fields'. Vande Velde is however an unexistent name as Vande is not a word in Dutch and to put the space there is unnatural.

But all in all, I have no watertight proof that one or the other writing is the correct one. --Pelotas^talk 20:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

It would be "van de Velde" in Dutch (small caps), I don't see that as an argument that the name is has been Americanized one way or the other. If you quote the name, Google has 60k for "Christian Vande velde" and 100k for "Christian Vandevelde", not exactly decisive. So with regard to the last point, authoritative sources, I'd put his employer at the top of the list of those I have seen. They write his paycheck :-) --Per Abrahamsen 13:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Good point, but also no certainty there, the one 'writing' the paycheck is most of the times not the webmaster and typing errors in foreign names are easily made. For now, I can only say that also the German and Dutch wiki use Vandevelde, not Vande Velde. I'll keep searching for sources. --Pelotas^talk 13:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mmm... thanks...

...for the cupcakes! Never feel like you have angered anyone by disagreeing with the rest of the people on an AfD. And even if someone was mad, who cares? It's an AfD, not a life-or-death situation -- no one will die because 2022 FIFA World Cup will get deleted, despite a few people objecting. I was really suprised to find the cupcakes on my user page, but thanks anyway! Keep up the good work, and continue to speak up for what you believe in. Ian Manka Talk to me! 17:47, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Hehe, okido! Enjoy the cupcakes. --Pelotas^talk 12:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] belgian football

Hi Pelotas,

good work on belgian football. Keep it up, Julien Tuerlinckx 12:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll try! --Pelotas^talk 12:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bribing scandal

Hi, I've just read a bit of the article which seems nice at first sight though if i would have a comment it would be that the article seems to go to deep in the details. Actually I'm not quite sure this topic deserves a full article. Maybe including it into a broader "Bribery in Belgian football" could be an idea. It's been a long time i wanted to write stuff about "what's wrong in Belgian football" (bribery, the weak FA which takes suspicious and weak decisions, the lack of money and modern infrastructures, etc) but right now i think making an article on bribery in belgian football is a good compromise. I'll try to help you on that in the future if you think it's a good idea. Julien Tuerlinckx 22:18, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I was originally just thinking of translating (from the Dutch wikipedia) the final paragraph I haven't done yet and that was it. I have not thought of the 'deepness' of the article or the fact if the topic deserves a full article, but maybe you're right. However, I don't really know a lot about other facets of gambling and bribing in belgian soccer. --Pelotas^talk 23:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Cool Cat/In many languages...

Thank you for the Dutch literal translation --Cat out 00:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

No Problem, I'm not sure if it is entirely right though, the translation I made from Dutch back to English is correct, but I'm not sure about the original English to Dutch. "Cool" does not in any way resemble "Tight". --Pelotas^talk 12:01, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canadian caper

Did you know? was updated. On 31 July 2006, a fact from the article Canadian caper, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Many thanks for the interesting nomination! -- Samir धर्म 00:44, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jean Rossius

hi, no I made an error with the nationality by forgetting to change from French to Belgium. And I was looking at the stage winner thinking it was overall. He was a Belgian cyclist. my other cyclist-stubs should be ok. Sorry for the mistake James Janderson 20:05, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok, no problem --Pelotas^talk 20:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help editing pages, please

Hi

I am Oliviu. Can you please tell me how can I "close" my page (User: Oliviu), so that nobody can edit it but me, just like it's yours? Or at least I would like this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oliviu&action=edit) to be replaced by this one (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Oliviu) when someone clicks on it.

Thanks.

Regards Oliviu Hirjan

You can ask for protection of a page but I believe a request for that will probably not be given. Don't worry about other people editing your page, you can always go back through the history to your own version, check out "How to revert a page to an earlier version". Mine is not protected in any way, everyone can edit it.--Pelotas^talk 14:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luxembourg

Hi Pelotas, Welcome, but how come that you are working on the lux Wiki? -- Myriam

Well, I'm not planning on editing much on the lux wiki but I will probably have to add some links to pages in other languages which is why I created an account. Although I know French, German and Dutch, I dont speak the luxembourgish languagemix so probably I will not be creating and major pages soon. --Pelotas^talk 23:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] salve!

Just welcoming you to the Latin wikipedia, where I am an administrator. Feel free to ask me any questions or problems you might have. Gratus apud nos!--Josh Rocchio 00:49, 4 August 2006 (UTC) or better: la:Usor:Ioshus Rocchio

Well thanks! I do have some problems, I'll mention them on your talkpage there. --Pelotas^talk 09:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes, we have many problems with the vandalism of the America pages and the Peru/Chile pages for some reason. This is why they are protected. But they should only be semi-protected, that is protected to unregistered users, or new users. You should be able to edit it within a day or two. As far as links go, if you see any other wiki, please change the link to Civitates Foederatae Americae, as this is the proper latin name for the US. Anything else?--Ioshus 17:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh ok I understand, that makes sence. Thanks for the information. --Pelotas^talk 17:50, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protected page

Hi, the page is just semi-protected. You can edit it, when you are logged in. --Roland2 15:03, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

ok thanks! --Pelotas^talk 15:08, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Icons

1. Second yellow - see {{yel}}.
2. Penalty goal - adding (pen) is standard on most sports websites - the goal is counted as a normal goal, so the icon need not be differnt.
3. Missed penalty - these are not included in most match summaries.

As for the alternating grey layout - iut is only your opinion that it looks crappy now, but it is not set to white - it is set to transparent. We shouldn't hard-code background colours outisde of the stylesheet. ed g2s • talk 12:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC) ed g2s • talk 12:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

True if you are viewing the article on the Wikipedia website using the default skin. If someone else runs a mirror with a different background - or you customise your skin to use a different background, then there is a big difference between white and transparent. ed g2s • talk 12:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Ok I can agree that it is just my opinion, but still between white and transparent is not much difference is there? ;) Thanks for the icons, too bad about the missed penalties. :s --Pelotas^talk 14:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Copyrighted images cannot be used deocratively, see WP:FUC. Team logos need only be used on an article about the club. We try to keep Fair Use to a minimum. ed g2s • talk 13:38, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Because this is the English Wikipedia. ed g2s • talk 10:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, calm down.. I thought you were talking about this edit. The capitalisation of "results" is simply wrong. The hyphen is open to debate but article titles tend not to use them. "(... August 2006)" or "August 2006 ..." are much more common ways of date grouping (see here for examples). ed g2s • talk 12:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Samogitian Wikipedia

Hello. I'm from Samogitian Wikipedia. My name is Tadas. If you need help say me o other administrators. (Sorry for me english :) )Tadas12 15:01, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Esperanza!

Thanks! --Pelotas^talk 21:56, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian names

Thanks for your info. Honestly I do not know for sure if Belgian names always capitalize "Van" or "De". It just appears to me that they are almost always capitalized from the Belgian names I see. I know that it's different from the Dutch, which always use lowercase "van" and "de". As for why I left the comment, this is in response to the previous edits of Stephan Van Der Heyden and Jelle Van Damme. The editors moved the pages from capital to lowercase letters, and left the comments Interjectives should be written without capitals and 'van' in between names needs to be written small, which are certainly incorrect for Belgian names. I guess the editors confused them with Dutch names. As I'm also not 100% correct, I apologize. But it's much more likely that the capitalized "Van" are used in the two names, so I moved them back to its original pages. If there are evidence that the two people use lowercase "van", sure we should move them back. But there aren't, unless we get to see their identity cards, as you suggest. Chanheigeorge 00:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

No need to apologise, at least you care! And indeed it is hard to be sure, one can only hope that the names are correctly spelled in the media and work from there, in this case I can say that I don't really know about Van Der Heyden, but Van Damme is commonly spelled with capital letters as part of Anderlecht and the Red Devils. --Pelotas^talk 09:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] September Esperanza Newsletter

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[edit] Hi

Hi Pelotas,

Please don't take my user page seriously. I don't really care about those things that much, but I find it a lot better to argue about silly things like soccer and the metric systems than war or terrorism or abortion or other things that people get really upset about. If it offends you, I'll take it down. But since you're a Simpsons fan: Can you tell me where I got the title: "These things I believe?" -- Mwalcoff 00:08, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Nono, leave it, doesn't offend me I just found it quite harsh/bold overall. I totally agree that all in all these are just silly things. About the simpsons thinghy, it's when Homer has the right answer to a radio show question. Is it not the title of a Rory Calhoun (?) album? --Pelotas^talk 00:41, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Belgian League Results

Hi Pelotas. I see you're an ardent supporter of Belgian football and have put a fair bit of work on the league here. Just to say that we are using a different template for Serie A results if you want to have a look at it. The 16 team version is being used for Portugese league.

Here's a blank 18 team version of the template

	Atalanta	Bologna	Brescia	Chievo	Fiorentina	Inter	Juventus	Lazio	Lecce	Milan	Parma	Perugia	Piacenza	Roma	Torino	Udinese	Venezia	Verona
Atalanta
Bologna
Brescia
Chievo
Fiorentina
Inter
Juventus
Lazio
Lecce
Milan
Parma
Perugia
Piacenza
Roma
Torino
Udinese
Venezia
Verona

Just to say aswell, that we have it setup on the Serie A page so that if you click on a result in the table you get taken directly to result on the detailed results page. Handy for picking out one result in particular instead of trawling through pages and pages. Niall123 18:27, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes I've noticed it already, but I believe that the table can be too wide for the people with smaller screens. I would like to see each teamname in the top bar shortened to three letters max. But good work nonetheless, making the results clickable however is a very good idea. I've already copied the idea of a clickable number of goals per team in the standings table. --Pelotas^talk 21:01, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm guessing that you're using Firefox. If you look at the table using IE, the names of the clubs along the top are shown as vertical. I've had this discussion already with another person. Here's a screen shot as how it looks on my screen using IE. Screen Shot. Hopefully they'll sort out firefox to fix this. Niall123 21:48, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed I am using firefox. Looks nice when it's vertical! --Pelotas^talk 21:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Albanians and Kosovo

My own beliefs on Kosovo and Albania really have very little to do with what I am doing. I am stub sorting. Because of the Albanian nationality law, any ethnic Albanian from any country can be a citizen of the Republic of Albania. However, it is clear from his birth that he is a Kosovar Albanian. The Albania-bio-stub is for people from the Republic of Albania, not any ethnic Albanian person.--Thomas.macmillan 18:19, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

The Albanian bio stub is for Albanian or Albanian Related football, which this clearly is. Since he is an Albanian Citizen, he should be in the "Albanian footballers" catergory too then. --Pelotas^talk 19:12, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UFWC

As you have been a major contributor, I was wondering what you think of what I've been doing at List of winners of Unofficial Football World Championships. Kevin McE 12:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks nice, keep going. :) Maybe the date could be set with a green background when a nation captures the title for the first time and red when they last had it? --Pelotas^talk 14:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Template standardizing

Hi Pelotas. It is very tough to standardize all the Belgian templates, so I have made Jupiler League 2006-07 goalscorers look better. kalaha 13:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football AID 5 – 12 November

[edit] November Esperanza Newsletter

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[edit] Football AID 12 November – 19 November

[edit] Autoblock

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[edit] Football AID 24 - 31 December

[edit] Football AID 31 December - 7 January

[edit] Football AID 28 Jan - 4 Feb

[edit] FAID 3-11 March

[edit] Template:2006-07 Football Leagues

Hi I've started a discussion regarding this template you contributed to here.[1] Georgeg 21:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday!

	Happy Birthday	from the Birthday Committee
	Wishing Pelotas a very happy birthday on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Don't forget to save us all a piece of cake!

Millancad 08:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] And from me!

Have a great day, fellow Wikipedian! All the best! Jackrm (talk) 23:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• Same here:

Just a happy Birthday message to you, Pelotas, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!

• FROM YOUR FRIEND:

 ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the cup cake :) It brought some joy to me at a time when I am feeling a bit down. Sorry I didn't notice you'd left me the cupcake until now! Thanks also for putting it in the right place! Thanks alot, and I hope you had a great birthday. -JacќяМ ¿Qué? 14:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Replaceable fair use Image:Jackson_Stewart.jpg

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[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:Jupiler League.jpg

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[edit] Your user page

I see you want help with your page, can you tell me what you want doing on my talk page? // Finns 22:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I will give it a go for you. // Finns 18:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zheyun Ye

In close connection with that article, maybe we could make an article starting from this about the bribing scandal? --Pelotas^talk 16:07, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I want to help, although I might lack a bit of time in the near future (examination + holiday trip). But I'll try my best :-) Karma-AH (talk) 15:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Age tag for the the fb in, fb si and fb out templates

I'm not sure what you mean by extra tag, but in the bottom of the squad information and players in / out tables there are explanation about the age: end of the season for squad information and signing day for players in / out. So, for example, if you take a look at Arsenal_F.C._season_2007-08#In code, you'll see something like this age={{age|1985|4|18|2007|5|25}}. I hope that's a solution. If you have a better solution, please lets discuss it. Regards. --ClaudioMB (talk) 16:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

If we could specify a date for all players just once, that would be great for Squad information table (for player in / out is better use the day of the signing). I don't know how to do it, if you know it, please, could you do it for Arsenal_F.C._season_2007-08#Squad_information. I guess the date should be the date of last match of the season (11 May 2008). --ClaudioMB (talk) 14:37, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minor edit marking

Hi - maybe you don't realise you need to change your preferences ... Please remember to mark your edits as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.' Thank you. Regards --Matilda ^talk 01:28, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

okidoki... i just have a different idea of minor. I've always used it except when I added at least 5 lines of meaningful text. --Pelotas^talk 03:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User page help

Dear Pelotas...I see that you have requested help in getting your user page in order and am willing to help you. My suggestions will not be full of a lot of flashy formatting. In my opinion, the less a user page looks like a Wikipedia page, the harder it is to read and navigate. You can go to my user page to see how an infobox can handle most of the routine information which you can expand upon if you so desire in the body of your user page.

To keep this conversation all in one place, you can respond on your talk page here. However, I ask that you put {{Talkback|Pelotas|User page help}} on my talk page to alert me to your response. Either way, I would like to hear back from you.

Have a nice day! - LA @ 02:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• Oh, that's nice, but Finns already offered to renew my page here. However, that was in April/May 2008 and I haven't heard from him/her since. :s About your ideas, I like having a user page which does not look like a traditional wikipedia article at all, just to show the difference. Your page does look nice though, maybe if I write more about myself I could make it look better too. But I would at first thought choose a user page like this or this. --Pelotas^talk 17:23, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Pelotas, I am adamantly against such pages. To me they are an eyesore. I prefer going with the K.I.S.S. principle when designing a user page. Many of the flashy user pages have so many redundancies that they become insulting. I know where the links to the user's talk page, contributions, and e-mail are. (Talk page link on top, the latter two in the toolbox.) You are invited to check out this template to help get you started. I wish you the best of luck, but I will not design such pages. Have a nice day! - LA @ 17:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ER

Hi, still interested in getting a review for that WP:ER request you submitted in May? Peace, delldot talk 16:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes sure I'm still very interested. --Pelotas^talk 17:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Belgian First Division 2008-09 results table

I made the change because of the following reasons:

1. Better access to a certain result, in correspondance to the unwritten "create easy access to every fact" rule
2. Alphabetical sorting is broad consensus in almost all UEFA season articles for this season, especially in the top leagues

However, it would be okay if the edit would be reverted, provided that there is consensus (either already reached or to be built in the future) on sorting the results by last year's position. Hockey-holic (talk) 15:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ITN

On 30 December 2008, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article Van Rompuy I Government, which you created and substantially updated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

--Spencer^T♦C 20:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality of Oleg Iachtchouk

Listen, the thing is that Oleh, I suspect, was not fully aware of citizenship laws of Ukraine and I think that people who let him to obtain a dual-citizenship was under-quilified as they failed to warn him about this issue. In Ukraine recently a newly naturalized Serbian Marco Devic had to give up his previous citizenship in order to play for Ukraine. It's a big issue as one needs to think not twice, but make a final decision whether it is worth to give up one's citizenship for the other country's. Him thinking that he has a dual citizenship would that truly be correct? His dual citizenship does not hold any ground as it is not recognized by his native country. Putting a Ukrainian flag only adds a confusion to that issue. Yes, he is truly a native Ukrainian and his last name can not get any more Ukrainian. However, he is a naturalized Belgian citizen and at his age there is no really a reason for him to change it back. Therefore consider him as Ukrainian somewhat discrimatory as by law he is an accepted Belgian citizen. On personal note, I feel bad that he was not given a single chance to play on the international level as he truly desrves it. And, in my opinion, Ukraine national really needs such players. Pelotas, do not take my message personally as I try to make a point. Yaschuk could easily play for Belgian national, but he is being a stuborn jackass. In his situation that would be the way show his skills. But if he prefers his pricipals over his career or a chance to make a national team then it's his personal issue. Very respectfully, Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Your Userpage

So yeah, in the interest of clearing up backlog, I've taken up a crusade to remove backlog from the Design Center. Congats- your'e next! The beta is in my sandbox. Just please don't edit it, I'm currentloy working on it and an edit conflict would be an ugly thing ideed. ResMar 01:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Now you can edit it; 75% done. Hope you like the design. ResMar 17:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello? ResMar 18:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks very nice, however I have a rather small screen and the right menu is moved below the left part. Maybe you could make the left menu smaller? (e.g. Just as big as the where I've been/What I am thinghy?) But I like the way it looks! Very nice thanks. --Pelotas^talk 18:08, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Give me a moment. ResMar 18:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Y result-Done Compromised the left "Where I've Been" and "What I Am" to reduce genral width of total left structure. Also added filler effect to background. On a small moniter, the gap between the two columns will shrink to match to width and aspect ration of the computer. ResMar 18:27, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that the Signpost refuses to align correctly. ResMar 18:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Works in IE; doesn't in Firefox ResMar 18:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see the problem. Internet Explorer automatically floats the Userboxes right. Firefoc dosn't. The problem here is that specifying float sends the Userboxes smack where left column is. ResMar 18:41, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Source for goalscorers (Jupiler League 2008-09) needed

Hi Pelotas,

first of all, thanks a lot for your work on Belgian First Division 2008–09, especially with all those goalscorers. However, there is a minor issue existing. Is there a reliable source for the complete list? I'm asking this because there has been some trouble lately over at the Serbian Superliga 2008–09 article. A couple of anon editors were edit warring about details in a list similar to the one on the Belgian article, but with one fundemental difference - there exists no source at all. As a result, the number of goals in the table (307) is not in tune with the number of goals credited for all scorers (304), so I had to issue a warning on the talk page about WP:V and its consequences. All of this would certainly not have happened if there had been a reliable source.

So, in order to prevent those... I don't know how to call them... from arguing "But there is also a unsourced list of scorers on the Belgian article, yet it goes unsanctioned" - could you please add a source to your list? Ideally, it should be something similar to this (German Bundesliga) from either the Belgian association or another reliable source.

Once again, keep up the good work! Cheers, Soccer-holic^{I hear voices in my head...} 20:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Done. Although I'll be honest, I just added the three most used sites by myself when I want to look up any information about the league, instead of veryfying the wikipedia content with those three sites. I do not use them to update the goal scorer list, because if you investigate those closely, then different sites will always give different results. So how do I know it is right? Well, I have a huge excel sheet in which I add each and every goal scorer in each match played. Once you have the list it's no so much work to update it every week, I even have more trouble with keeping the length of the columns the same ;) --Pelotas^talk 20:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! By the way, it doesn't matter how it's done as long as the sources are good to go... :-) --Soccer-holic^{I hear voices in my head...} 21:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion welcomed

Soccer-holic and I are trying to improve league articles in general, especially when talking about colors used in league standings. We are thinking that codes (colors) should be unified and used in the same way in all articles. So take a look at this Soccer-holic's subpage: User:Soccer-holic/League season article, which explains parts which every league articles should consist of, as well as using the colors in the right order and code. Please leave your comments and improvements (if needed) so we can take the final proposal to the community on Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. SonjiCeli (talk) 15:18, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I can see where this unified color scheme would be useful indeed, maybe we should make a standard template which explains the colors, as they did for formula 1 here (It is added as a key for instance here). Also, in the standings by round we should create unified templates there also, as for instance the color scheme for the Spainish league (here) is completely different from the standard one here and the colours should probably be linked to the ones chosen before... --Pelotas^talk 15:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Dates

Hi, I noticed that you have been linking some dates at 2009 Belgian Cup Final recently. This practice of linking dates for the purpose of autoformatting is now deprecated. Please see WP:LINKING and WP:MOSNUM. Furthermore, there is an temporary Arbcom injunction on mass linking/delinking of chronological elements. I'm happy to respond to any inquiries you may have about the matter. Thank you for your attention. Ohconfucius (talk) 05:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Maxime Bouet

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[edit] Brice Feillu

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[edit] Happy birthday!

Hey, Pelotas. Just stopping by to wish you a Happy Birthday from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day!-- I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 14:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Invite to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Season article task force

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[edit] Email

Hi there. I just sent you an email. Amsaim (talk) 11:33, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Got it, don't have the time right now though. Also never heard of her before :) But maybe I will do it towards the end of this week if I find some time. Pelotas^talk 14:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] World Cup qualification template

There was no reason to revert my edit, especially as it was correct. Kostja (talk) 18:05, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

• Have not looked at it again, but I'm quite sure it was wrong or at least incomplete. It is mentioned clearly that the results of the last team are not counted in this ranking. I'm guessing you did add them, or forgot to add the results against a another team. If however I did make a mistake, then sorry. Pelotas^talk 18:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Re: 2009-10 Belgian Division

Sorry, my bad. I simply overlooked the update date. On the other hand, consider a restriction of the section (as it is the WikiProject standard) to the best ten scorers plus, if there aren't too many, those who have the same amount of goals as the 10th-best scorer. The Wikipedia policy behind this is WP:NOT#STATS. --Soccer-holic^{I hear voices in my head...} 08:11, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Denis Odoi

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[edit] Nils Schouterden

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[edit] New footballer articles

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[edit] Former World Cup matches

Hello. My name is Edson Ortolan (from Brazil). Another day I suggested to add in some place (new article or new entry in another page) the former matches between the teams of the Fifa World Cup 10. I listed all plays until Group D. The reference is the Wikipedia. I don't know how the Wikipedia works to these contribuitions. I didn't know about signature, address and other things. Example: must I let my email in the message ? Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.0.123.234 (talk) 15:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

• Hi Edson, I'm not quite sure what you are asking, but in theory you could just ask what you want on each page. If it's correct meaningful information, somewhat structured and in theory following the wikipedia guidelines, then you cannot do anything wrong. If you do, someone will correct it anyway. In this case, you could for instance add the info on pages 2010 FIFA World Cup Group A through 2010 FIFA World Cup Group H, as a section at the top, or for each match individually within the article. Anyone can edit wikipedia, that's the basic idea! :) So you do not need do put your address or email anywhere. If you create a (free) account however, then you avoid problems with blocked pages (Sometimes this happens because many unregistered users try to ruin pages). Now whether you create an account or not, when posting on talk pages, you should sign your comment by putting ~~~~, this automatically changes into your ip address (or nickname) and adds the time of posting. If you have more questions, feel free to ask! Pelotas^talk 16:08, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I understand. I was curious for search the results between the teams of the 2010 World Cup, because Brazil played against Portugal in 1966 World Cup (Portugal 3 X 1 Brazil) in Round 1 and I rememberd that Portugal beat Korea DPR (5 X 3) in Quarters. So I found all results of the other plays and I wrote one list with them. My question is: is there the possibility to put it in any place (new article, new topic)? Do you want to see the list ? Thanks.201.0.123.234 (talk) 17:39, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

• Yes I like the idea, but it's too much detail to put it on the main article page. So maybe you should add the information at the individual match paragraphs, so at 2010 FIFA World Cup Group G#Portugal v Korea DPR for instance for the 5-3 result of 1966. Pelotas^talk 18:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I send the list, but here it will be confused because the format. Look at: Group A: South Africa X Mexico: first match; Uruguay X France: England/66: Uruguay 2 X 1 France - round 1; Korea Rep-Japan/02: Uruguay 0 x 0 France - round 1; South Africa X Uruguay: first match; France X Mexico: Uruguay/30: France 4 X 1 Mexico - round 1; Switzerland/54: France 3 x 2 Mexico - round 1; England/66: France 1 x 1 Mexico - round 1; Mexico X Uruguay: England/66: Mexico 0 x 0 Uruguay - round 1; France X South Africa: France/98: France 3 X 0 South Africa - round 1 --- Group B: Argentina X Nigeria: United States/94: Argentina 2 X 1 Nigeria - round 1; Korea Rep-Japan/02: Argentina 1 X 0 Nigeria - round 1; Korea Rep X Greece: first match; Argentina X Korea Rep: Mexico/86: Argentina 3 X 1 Korea Rep - round 1; Greece X Nigeria: United States/94: Greece 0 X 2 Nigeria - round 1; Greece X Argentina: United States/94: Greece 0 X 4 Argentina - round 1; Nigeria X Korea Rep: first match --- Group C: England X United States: Brazil/50: England 0 X 1 United States - round 1; Algeria X Slovenia: first match; England X Algeria: first match; Slovenia X United States: first match; United States X Algeria: first match; Slovenia X England: first match; Obs.: 1) Slovenia separated from Yugoslavia.--- Group D: Germany X Australia: Germany/74: West Germany 3 X 0 Australia - round 1; Serbia X Ghana: first match; Germany X Serbia: Switzerland/54: West Germany 2 X 0 Yugoslavia - Quartes; Sweden/58: West Germany 1 X 0 Yugoslavia - Quartes; Chile/62: West Germany 0 X 1 Yugoslavia - Quartes; Germany/74: West Germany 2 X 0 Yugoslavia - round 2; Italy/90: West Germany 4 X 1 Yugoslavia - round 1; France/98: Germany 2 X 2 Yugoslavia - round 1; Ghana X Australia: first match; Australia X Serbia: first match; Ghana X Germany: first match; Obs.: 1) I included the matches of the West Germany (1954-1990) 2) I included the matches of the Yugoslavia (1930-1999) and Serbia and Montenegro (2006).--- Group E: Netherlands X Denmark: first match; Japan X Cameroon: first match; Netherlands X Japan: first match; Cameroon X Denmark: first match; Denmark X Japan: first match; Cameroon X Netherlands: first match --- Group F: Italy X Paraguay: Brazil/50: Italy 2 X 0 Paraguay - round 1; New Zealand X Slovakia: first match; Italy X New Zealand: first match; Slovakia X Paraguay: first match; Paraguay X New Zealand: first match; Slovakia X Italy: Italy/34: Czechoslovakia 1 X 2 Italy - Final. Obs.: Slovakia was part of Czechoslovakia.--- Group G: Brazil X Korea DPR: first match; Cote d'Ivory X Portugal: first match; Brazil X Cote d'Ivory: first match; Portugal X Korea DPR: England/66: Portugal 5 X 3 Korea DPR - Quartes; Korea DPR X Cote d'Ivory: first match; Portugal X Brazil: England/66: Portugal 3 X 1 Brazil - round 1 --- Group H: Spain X Switzerland: England/66: Spain 2 X 1 Switzerland - round 1; United States/94: Spain 3 X 0 Switzerland - round 2; Honduras X Chile : first match; Spain X Honduras: Spain/82: Spain 1 X 1 Honduras - round 1; Chile X Switzerland: Chile/62: Chile 3 X 1 Switzerland - round 1; Switzerland X Honduras: first match; Chile X Spain: Brazil/50: Chile 0 X 2 Spain - round 1. 201.0.123.234 (talk) 19:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Pelotas. Here is Edson Ortolan, again. Your suggestion of the links is good, but I don't know make them. Can you help ? Thanks. 200.153.229.80 (talk) 20:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

• Well, for instance use 1966 FIFA World Cup#Group 1 at 2010 FIFA World Cup Group A. :) Pelotas^talk 20:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Pelotas, I will edit the 2010 FIFA World Group A, but I don't know to put the links because my informatical knowledge is poor. Look at my work. Other argument to remember the importance of the former matches: we are in the 19th FIFA World Cup and we build a tradition and history of the plays and emotions. Thanks.201.82.254.144 (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Pelotas. Your text of the Group A is very good !!! If I wrote very well in English (I read and understand very well) and if I had the know-how, I would expand the texts.201.82.254.144 (talk) 23:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)