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Archive 1: September 2007 – August 2008

[edit] WikiProject Children's Literature

I notice that your talk page says your on wikibreak, and am only interrupting you because I saw that you just edited the project page. It seems that this wikiproject has fallen into disuse in the past few months (although there's still lots of good work being done on articles within its scope). I would like to try to revitalize the project and would appreciate any input from more experienced participants (I thought it best to ask some of the more active contributors for input first since a general statement on the talk page might come off as pretentious, i.e. "the newest member trying to take charge"). A lot of wikiprojects have departments so it seems like that and a "roll call" of the general body might be a good start. Aurum ore (talk) 06:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

That's okay, I've pretty much failed to take any time off at all, so don't worry about it. I'd have to agree about the WP falling into disuse, although I don't know if was ever that busy to begin with. I've actually only been a member for a few months, so I wouldn't call myself experienced—I mostly joined because I found myself editing a lot of related articles.

I think it would be fine if you wanted to make any changes—just use your judgement and perhaps discuss it on the talk page if you think it's necessary.

PS After leaving this sitting in a browser window for a few hours, I've made some significant changes to the WikiProject page. See how you like them and feel free to make further changes if you'd like. Thanks for the impetus! I've been meaning to clean it up a bit for a while, it was a mess. Mr. Absurd (talk) 00:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't realize how much cruft that page had, but the new version if much more functional, especially the FA/GA lists. It looks like there's at least a few of us floating around the board, so I think I'll take your advice, post my suggestions directly there and see what kind of a response they get. Aurum ore (talk) 06:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Entourage

Hi.

What policy is this revert based on? Sure, some TV show templates don't include the cast, crew, or quotes:

And some do:

But I can't find a guideline either way (Wikipedia:Navigational box is no help). Maybe the Wikiquotes link isn't all that common (I stole it from Template:How I Met Your Mother) and can be debated, but it's hardly pernicious or offtopic (it's an interwiki link, which is arguably halfway between an internal and external link). Links to cast and/or crew, on the other hand, are common and, as far as I can see, uncontentious.

(P.S. Please reply here.)

chocolateboy (talk) 07:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

No authority, just semi-personal preference. The cast and crew are definitely debatable, I just don't like it because I don't think it's directly related enough. However, the quotes link is (IMHO) much less appropriate, as it is an outside-Wikipedia link — though you are right about it being a sister project — and should be placed in the external links section of the main show article. So if you want to put the cast and crew back in, that's fine, but I would still leave the quotes out (though I'm not going to revert it if you put it back in). Mr. Absurd (talk) 19:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

if you want to put the cast and crew back in, that's fine

Ta.

I've restored the cast and crew sections. I can live without the Quotes link, though, as I said, I think it's harmless (as I'm sure you know, interwiki links use the internal link syntax).

I really don't see how the creators and stars of a show are not "directly related" to the show (Jerry Seinfeld's not "directly related" to Template:Seinfeld?), and, to be honest, I had to search quite hard to find templates like Template:The Dukes of Hazzard and Template:Doctor Who that exclude both (presumably because they've both had so many incarnations that neither section makes much sense in those templates). The vast majority of templates listed in Category:Comedy television navigational boxes do include cast and/or crew.

Having said all that, I see you've done sterling work on a large number of templates, so thanks for that and thanks for this discussion!

chocolateboy (talk) 21:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Harry Potter

Hello,

OK, sorry about that. Thanks for telling me.

The Helpful One ^(Review) 20:15, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Hurrah indeed! :) The Helpful One ^(Review) 20:17, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Please see the talk page, I have

Done. The Helpful One ^Review 15:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: AfD on this

Excuse me, but the article is notable because of its popularity in books, and if we just trashed articles into one big one, some one would tag it. Oh, what happens if you double vote, anyway? RoryReloaded (talk) 21:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

AfD is not based on voting; it's about building community consensus, not counting votes. You should probably read Wikipedia:Polling is not a substitute for discussion so you're fully aware of the way it's done here. As far as I know, there are no consequences per se for double-voting, but now that you are aware that it is inappropriate, you should not do it again. If you persist with it you will be warned — it's definitely not appropriate. Mr. Absurd (talk) 00:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Danish Poet

I am reviewing your article The Danish Poet for GA and have made some comments on the review page. I think it is a well written and well referenced article, but I am wondering if it is a little brief. Please feel free to comment on the review page and to contact me with any questions or comments. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for a very thorough review! I've been a bit disappointed with GA standards lately, as I've noticed several sub-par articles, so it's nice to know that some people still maintain high standards. As for the article being a bit brief—I think it's fine, as that's all I could find and it covers most of the topics—but feel free to suggest something if you think of it and I'll see what I can do. Mr. Absurd (talk) 01:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

You should label the Youtube link per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:EL#Rich_media. (It's great!) —Mattisse (Talk) 19:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Figwit

I am also reviewing Figwit for GA, a quite wonderful article that I just discovered. It seems to be in fine shape but if I have any comments I will post them on the article review page. Feel free to contact me. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 22:51, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Great, thanks. I know it's a horribly obscure subject, but when I discovered that there was an article I knew it just had to be done. Mr. Absurd (talk) 01:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I added a few comments to address. —Mattisse (Talk) 19:44, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. On a side note, if you want the text of that article, I can email it to you. Mr. Absurd (talk) 00:58, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:The Seven Lady Godivas‎

What is the point of adding "Project Children's Literature" to abook which was not intended for children? Since Salman Rushdie wrote Haroun and the Sea of Stories, does that mean that "Project Children's Literature" should be added to "Talk:The_Satanic_Verses_(novel)"? Do tell. AnonMoos (talk) 03:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, because it's related to Dr. Seuss, who is an extremely important figure in children's literature. That was my reasoning, anyway—I don't particularly care that much one way or the other. Mr. Absurd (talk) 04:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Figwit and WITW

Excuse me, but I tried to get Watcher in the Water to go to GA, how come an article called Figwit got to GA (it too like WITW has little referencing) while you said WITW will "never get to GA"? WITW has by far more information than Figwit.Lord of Moria _Talk ^Contribs 12:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I definitely never said that it would never get to GA, I just said that I didn't think it was likely, and not in its current state. And regarding the references, the Figwit article is probably a bit better than the Watcher article — you shouldn't compare based on number of references, but rather their quality. If you want to get it up to GA, find an admin or an experienced member of the LotR WP and ask for assistance. Mr. Absurd (talk) 19:51, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bullets

Please note there are no 'standards' regarding the size of bullets in navboxes. Barring in mind the (in)visibility of bullets, small fonts should use big bullets. However, one should always observe consistency; the Heroes templates use big bullets within the project. While this may be different in other navboxes, I'd appriciate leaving the Heroes boxes like they are. Also remember that once an edit is contested, it is up to you to build consensus for the change, not just revert. Thank you. — Edokter • Talk • 21:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Please refer to the recent discussion about cast lists in film articles at [1]. The edit you made to Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day contradicts what appears to be the general consensus. Thank you. LiteraryMaven (talk) 16:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gadsby

At Talk:Gadsby (book)#Requested move you made a comment on the proposed move from "Gadsby (book)" to "Gadsby (novel)". In the Discussion sub-section I have proposed a compromise: "Gadsby: Champion of Youth". This is consistent with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (books)#Subtitles which suggests using subtitles only if it avoids a disambiguation and if the subtitle is short. In this case, the 3 word subtitle can be considered small, it avoids a disambiguation title, and it keeps the lipogram. Is this alternative ok? Please note that this option applies to the title only and makes no comment on the remainder of the article. maclean 18:10, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] World War Z

I just wanted to say good job and thanks for the amount of work you recently put into the World War Z article. Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 01:59, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] References section of The Eyre Affair

I would prefer to have the reference section you deleted included. I know that many people (me being one of them) use Wikipedia to find literature on comparatively new or obscure novels, and this reference section is very useful in my opinion. Lipsia07 (talk) 20:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Twilight (series)

Talk page comments should only be removed if they are spam or off topic. The comment you removed was discussing the article. If you disagree with a suggestion being made then respond to it stating why don't simply remove the comment. --neon white talk 01:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Voice of Fire

Hey Mr. Absurd, I left you a question at File talk:Voice of Fire.jpg#Licensing...I'm a little confused on copyright issues. Thanks, —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 21:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Septimus Heap

Hi Absurd, we have created a Septimus Heap character page after finding quite a few character reviews and real world scenarios of it. Can you please check it? If proper then we can move it to the actual name. Let me know bout this :) "Legolas" (talk) 13:21, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

hi, did u review the septimus heap character page? please let me know asap, so that i can move it. "Legolas" (talk) 06:35, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Jenna Heap

Hi Ya that was a mistake. I didnot mean to do any changes. But can you please let me know what else can be changed in the articles so that their importance increases? waiting for your reply "Legolas" (talk) 08:05, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Country history

This is just a query about Template:Country history which you created. I don't know whether you have done it delibretly or not but when you put in a header it removes the data of the same number. If this problem was fixed then templates such as Template:History of France could be converted to this template without any lose of data. Personally I have examined the template and can't work out what it causing this so if anyone else knows how to fix this it would be very much appreciated. The Quill (talk) 17:25, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

The way that these templates are written means that you can't use the same number for a header and a data cell—you need to use different numbers. So if you have a header as number 1, then the data underneath it needs to be number 2. Does that make sense? Mr. Absurd (talk) 17:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

The fact it does that is pretty stupid but yes that is very helpful. Thankyou. Regards, The Quill (talk) 17:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Date formats

Thanks for the tip; as it happens, another user brought me up to date about this just yesterday too, so I have un-done a couple of cases of date links. I still think numeric-linked dates are reasonable to use within references, but I won't feel any need to bother changing other people's dates. Thx. Chonak (talk) 04:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Little Red Ridinghood

You seem to have reverted my edit from [2] where I changed each instance of "Riding Hood" to "Ridinghood". I believe that my edit was justified, as this is how the character's name is spelled in the published vocal score. Please let me know why you disagree. --Thomprod (talk) 00:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, I've never seen it spelled "Ridinghood" anywhere else. Was your copy was an official MTI version? You can change it back if you wish for now (but please leave my other edits intact). I'm going to check an script/score tomorrow when I have access to one and see what it says. Mr. Absurd (talk) 01:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I agree, this useage is unusual. The published vocal score is copyright 1987, 1988 and 1989 by Rilting Music and published by Warner Bros. Publications. It was prepared by Tony Esposito, Dave Jessie and Jeff Sultanof from the composer's piano copy. It was purchased, rather than rented from MTI. I know that "Riding Hood" is spelled as two words in all the literature and elsewhere in Wikipedia, but the score consistantly spells it "Ridinghood" in the Cast List and in the score at every entrance at which she sings. I have no other source to compare it to, though, so I'm hoping your research will confirm one spelling or the other. Let's leave it as is until then. Cheers! --Thomprod (talk) 01:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the score/script I have from MTI has "Ridinghood", so we can change it back. Mr. Absurd (talk) 04:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for verifying it. --Thomprod (talk) 01:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Toronto Reference Library

Just stumbled upon your work in progress at User:Mr. Absurd/Toronto Reference Library. Very impressive, I can't wait for it to go live. I just put together a short article on its old home, now the Koffler Student Centre. - SimonP (talk) 03:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! Unfortunately, I've been so busy lately that I haven't worked on it recently. But I really want it to be able to go for "Did you know?", so that's why I've been waiting. Feel free to add to it if you want. Mr. Absurd (talk) 01:31, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		for moving the inline citation from the end of every row to the header at the Coretta Scott King Award‎, an elegant solution to an unsightly problem, from ErinHowarth (talk) 16:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Watcher in the Water

I suppose you wouldn't mind considering giving some feedback on the GA status of the article now. 84.13.76.98 (talk) 17:32, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] List of books by Dr Seuss

Hello Mr. Absurd. Checking the history of the now redirected page, I can see that redirected the page. I understand the decision, but I have recently created a draft of a page, that I think would be appropriate and useful on Wikipedia. I was wondering if you could give me some input, and if you agree that List of books by Dr Seuss, should go public again. Oldag07 (talk) 20:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

In a nutshell... maybe. I've not been very active on Wikipedia lately so I'm a bit out of the loop (and I will be again very soon as I'm travelling). I wouldn't say yes or no right now, but definitely ask at the WikiProject Children's literature talk page and maybe also ask some prominent Wikipedians. I haven't really seen anything similar to this that could be a precedent, but it doesn't seem like a bad idea either. Nice work. Mr. Absurd (talk) 04:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

After looking around, i found that that there is actually significant precedence for these types of lists. Category:List-Class children and young adult literature articles Thanks for you help. I think by this evening I should have the page up. Thanks. Oldag07 (talk) 17:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

It is done. Thanks for the help again. List of Dr. Seuss books

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