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Contents 1 2010 WikiCup Signups Reconfirmation! 2 Greek love article was completely rewritten 3 Removed prod from Ciaran Buckley. 4 The Great Wikipedia Dramaout 5 The 2010 WikiCup begins tomorrow! 6 Can you revert an edit?

[edit] 2010 WikiCup Signups Reconfirmation!

To ensure that everyone who signed up is still committed to participating in the 2010 WikiCup, it is required that you remove your name from this list! By removing your name, you are not removing yourself from the WikiCup. This is simply a way for the judges to take note of who has not yet reconfirmed their participation. If you have not removed your name from that list by December 30th, 2009 (by 23:59 (UTC)) then your name will be removed from the WikiCup.

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• Mainspace and/or portal edits will not be awarded points at all.
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If you have any final concerns about the WikiCup's rules and regulations, please ask them now, before the Cup begins to avoid last minute problems. You may come to the WikiCup's talk page, or any of the judge's user talk pages. We're looking forwards to a great 2010 WikiCup! On behalf of the WikiCup judges, iMatthew ^talk at 03:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Greek love article was completely rewritten

I reverted back to where the bot considered it vandalism, but I have to ask you what you think about this kind of editing. Is this what you would consider bold or a complete dumping of another's referenced work for no good reason and with no notification to main editors involved.--Amadscientist (talk) 14:20, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

There's actually no policy that would require notification to main editors before making large changes. It is a convention that, in my opinion, has been cemented into wikiculture against our no ownership policy, and is not obvious to new users. So, along that line of reasoning, I don't think there is much of a difference between the two scenarios you posited, in general.

In this case (I assume that you are referring to this edit, so if you are not, I would appreciate a pointer to the one that you are refering to), I think that the edit is not without its flaws (extreme overlinking being the most obvious), but still offers more of the historical grounding that I would expect in such an article. Not all of this is referenced as clearly as it should be. I think that the next edit, the one that you made, is also a relatively good one, although with context, I think block quotes may be appropriate in an article like this.

The only scenario in which this edit would be against policy is if the IP editor is a regular editor of the article who signed out in order to deceive other users, but this would be, I think nearly impossible to prove over the more likely cases of this either being a true IP editor or a regular user who was automatically logged out and forgot to log back in.

I think your talk page comment is unnecessarily hostile and rather bitey. Assume good faith is a major policy for a reason. "[It]'s not a request!--Danger (talk) 16:45, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

The IP user directly before my change is me. I didn't realise I was not logged in. The complete rewrite is from October and removed a considerable amount of referenced material only to begin the same debate by others that had occured some time ago.

Here is the original rewrite before it was reversed by a bot http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greek_love&action=historysubmit&diff=322993821&oldid=320828111 dated October 30. It was reverted, edits made and then the same member came back and did it again http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greek_love&action=historysubmit&diff=325872266&oldid=324640772 dated November 14, setting off some conflict.--Amadscientist (talk) 17:28, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I was a bit hostile. I have toughened a bit and that is why I seek a little guidance, but it does blur in consideration of how others have spoken to me. Light in fact, but I defer to your opinion as being more neutral. Please take a look at the article in comparison to previous information and added comments.--Amadscientist (talk) 17:37, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, I have no problem with Block quotes....it's what is in them that becomes a question and that seems to be shared by others, but this begins to be a game of who can wait the other out to make the article EXACTLY what they want instead of trying to respect the contributions of others. Removing everything is akin to a page blank unless there is some very obvious reason for the extreme change.--Amadscientist (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Removed prod from Ciaran Buckley.

Hello, I removed the prod tag from the article because it was already proposed for deletion before and that deletion was contested. Since proposed deletions must be uncontested, the article isn't available for prod, but it can still be deleted after a discussion at AfD. Thanks! -- Atama頭 22:11, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The Great Wikipedia Dramaout

Hi! As you have expressed an interest in the initial The Great Wikipedia Dramaout, you're being notified because we are currently planning another one in January! We hope to have an even greater level of participation this time around, and we need your help. If you're still interested please sign up now at Wikipedia:The Great Wikipedia Dramaout/2nd. Thanks, and Happy Holidays! JCbot (talk) 04:29, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] The 2010 WikiCup begins tomorrow!

Welcome to the biggest WikiCup Wikipedia has yet seen! Round one will take place over two months, and finish on February 26. There is only one pool, and the top 64 will progress. The competition will be tough, as more than half of the current competitors will not make it to round 2. Details about scoring have been finalized and are explained at Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. Please make sure you're familiar with the scoring rules, because any submissions made that violate these rules will be removed. Like always, the judges can be reached through the WikiCup talk pages, on their talk page, or over IRC with any issues concerning anything tied to the Cup. We will keep in contact with you via weekly newsletters; if you do not want to receive them, please remove yourself from the list here. Conversely, if a non-WikiCup participant wishes to receive the newsletters, they may add themselves to that list. Well, enough talk- get writing! Your submission's page is located here. Details on how to submit your content is located here, so be sure to check that out! Once content has been recognized, it can be added to your submissions page, from which our bot will update the main score table. Remember that only articles worked on and nominated during the competition are eligible for points. Have fun, and good luck! Garden, iMatthew, J Milburn, and The ed17 19:19, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Can you revert an edit?

I have a request. I've found a page, Hannah Kearney, that had nonsense content added to it a few days ago. I deleted the content, and tried to undo the edits to a previous incarnation, but was unsuccessful, as you can see by the mess that is the history page. Can you please revert the page to an earlier incarnation, specifically to the state it was in before TehMightBeep made his first edit? I don't have confidence in my abilities to do this without making a mistake, and would rather have an experienced editor do so. Thank you in advance. C628 (talk) 03:38, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Of course, already done. I did this by going into the article history and viewing the last clean copy (the one before the vandal edits), then editing that copy. A warning appears to inform you that you're going to erase any intermediate edits. That's what I wanted to do, so I saved that copy without making any changes. Does that make sense? --Danger (talk) 03:43, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that makes sense. Thank you. C628 (talk) 04:59, 1 January 2010 (UTC)