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[edit] Merger

I feel that the article Chinook Winds Casino should be merged with Confederated Tribes of Siletz as their is very little information pertaining to the casino and therefore, I do not feel that it is substantial enough to stand alone. T. White 09:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merger

I feel that the article Spirit Mountain Casino (Oregon) should be merged with Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon as their is very little information pertaining to the casino and therefore, I do not feel that it is substantial enough to stand alone. T. White 09:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] NBA Playoffs

Sry, but its kinda obvious the Phoenix Suns are going to win game 6 so i just wanted to put that out. So i just have to wait until Saturday's game is over. Thx for pointing that out

[edit] Blazers history

I've phrased the section linking to Parts 1 and 2 correctly, because we don't really need to be told why we're going elsewhere, we just need a link. Anyway, you now need to write a small summary of the history to go on the main Blazers page (this is the convention - see Hong Kong), probably two or three decent paragraphs in length. Just the main events. Thanks. Harro5 July 8, 2005 23:07 (UTC)

  • Just noticed your changes. Good work with the summary. Harro5 10:35, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My mistake

Sorry. I mis-redirected something and can't figure out how to get out of the loop of bad karma I created. I was just writing a note to an administrator to see whether he could get rid of the problem. P0M 03:49, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

And in the process of trying to straighten this thing out I noticed that there is already an article on the Australian venomous funnel web spiders, similar title to mine, and it has a message on it suggesting it be merged with the one on the Sydney fws. Too bad I didn't notice that in the beginning, since that is pretty clearly what needs to be done. P0M

Nice Harbor Drive and ghost ramp pages. My only issues are:

  • Harbor Drive should have been named Harbor Drive (Portland, Oregon) or something
  • Its suprising that a ghost ramp page wasn't already created
  • Are you sure that Harbor Drive had no intersections?
  • I do see where you noted that it was a "crude freeway", but it should be in the intro. The into sounds like it was a freeway by modern standards. --Jason McHuff 07:19, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] one link per page please

Please review Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links) which provides the guideines for links. I have been revmoving quite a few excessive links that you have added. Also, how about adding yourself to Category:Wikipedians in Oregon? Thanks, Cacophony 17:24, 2 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Pirate Rock?

Please delete this article. You're clearly having a joke; None of the bands have anything in common.

[edit] Template:NBA

For your information, I reverted your recent edits to this template because they seem to break the following Wikipedia policies and discussions:

  • Wikipedia:Fair use criteria:
    Fair use images should only be used in the article namespace. They should never be used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes)...
  • Wikipedia:Avoid using meta-templates:
    "Meta-templates" as used in this article are those that are created and used to keep other templates in a standard format ... However, note that Wikimedia developers agree that templates within templates can be severely problematic to server performance and that, as such, they should be avoided for technical reasons.

Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 05:58, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Changes Camp in Portland

FYI RecentChangesCamp Tedernst | talk 22:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] OR hwy stub

The folks at WP:WSS want you to propose the stubs you create before you create them... but lately that place has looked unfavorably upon all highway stubs (such as the Iowa one), so it might not be worth the hassle. Just thought you might want to know. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:01, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Ethnic Slurs, part 2

Regarding the page List of ethnic slurs, please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --EngineerScotty 17:34, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
  • What the heck are you talking about? I just made a good faith edit to try to keep the page from descending into nonsense. Look down, there's a high horse under you. 155.84.57.253 17:43, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Fair enough; however your behavior in the past on the page has looked like vandalism. To avoid such messages in the future, I would suggest the following:
      • If you make a change which destroys content, and folks object to the change (which several have), discuss it in the talk page. Repeatedly making unilateral changes to a page, without discussing, is frowned upon.
      • When you use explainations like "reverting to last version by X"; that contains the implication that the prior version (that you eliminated) is vandalism--use of such explainations on versions which aren't obvious vandalism, is suspicious.
      • Since you are posting from an IP which is shared by multiple users; I would suggest creating yourself an account. It's free and easy to do; that way you won't be confused with the numerous other users who post from 155.84.57.253. (Plus, your IP address will no longer visible to anybody but the most senior of Wikipedia admins).
    • Certainly, the list of ethic slurs page is full of questionable stuff. But the correct way to make it a better page is to discuss stuff first. Tell us why you don't like certain entries--demanding verifiability is a good technique. The page needs cleaning up. But repeated unilateral deletions of content that others think belongs there, is not how to win friends and influence people on Wikipedia. I'm very easy to get along with :), and I'll gladly support you if you make a good argument. But I won't if you just delete stuff you don't like and not tell us why you think it shouldn't be there. --EngineerScotty 17:52, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] As You Predicted

On 6 December 2005 on the talk page for the Seigenthaler biography controversy, you commented --

Do I expect a frontal assault on Internet publishing (and therefore, on the First Amendment)? No; that would be too transparent, and politically untenable. Instead, I suspect we'll see a Communications Integrity Act of 2007 (give or take a year), which will seek to rewrite the fundamental bargain which was struck by the Communications Decency Act of 1996, and which has made the net (especially in the US) the wild and wooly place it is today.

-- as I looked at it today, I realized that your comment was incredibly prescient. See 'Create an e-annoyance, go to jail' [[1]]. You really should take a look at it. I am trying to write something showing the connection between this article and the Seigenthaler thing. I believe there is one. Hope your holidays went well. Marcopolo 18:38, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Something tells me (fortunately) that this law is DOA. The mainstream press seems to be laughing at it, and it's far more transparent than I thought Congress would try. OTOH, some of the would-be censors in Congress seem to use the following tactic:
  1. Pass a blatantly unconstitutional law restricting free speech.
  2. See it thrown out by the courts.
  3. Pass a less-blatant, and less-restrictive law, claiming its a "compromise".
  4. If court throws that out, go back to step 3.
  5. Otherwise, mission accomplished.
It's a tactic that's worked before. Sometimes, the resulting law does manage to be sufficiently narrowly targeted that it's not too odious; but sometimes not. It will be interesting to see the reaction over then next couple of days. --EngineerScotty 19:24, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP CS

Welcome aboard! It's always good to get new members, and especially good to get members motivated enough to try to start their own projects :-) Looking forward to some fruitful collaborations with you. Once place where we could use definitely use some more input is a draft manual of style for CS articles that a few of us are trying to put together. --Allan McInnes 07:08, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magic number (programming)

Hi! Thank you for taking an interest in this article. However, your edit has been reverted, because that magic number is already listed below in the article. See you around. --huwr 00:50, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Banfield Freeway old exit numbers

If you get a chance, can you fill in the old exit numbers on Talk:Interstate 84 (west)? Thanks. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 23:04, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

You included a few in the Mt. Hood Freeway article - I figured you knew them all. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 02:41, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Ah - thanks. I'll contact Ajbenj. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 03:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Can you respond to Talk:Mt. Hood Highway when you get a chance? Thanks. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 06:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 104S

Why do you think the S in 42S stands for south? More importantly, how is 104S not an accurate designation? 104S is listed in the route description PDF just like 42S. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 08:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

US 95 Spur is actually called that in the log. Unless 104S actually gets signed we should probably go by what ODOT calls it. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 17:39, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I have written a paragraph at Talk:Mt. Hood Highway - what do you think about it? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 08:01, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highway numbers

Hmmm. I figure on the articles about the highways, we should include both, while on the articles on the routes, we should only use the highway numbers sparingly? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 08:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

To that end, what do you think about this edit? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 08:35, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, looks good. Do you know if there's any signage taking 99W north of Tigard? The route log ends it at I-5 exit 294, and signage, at least at US 26, seems to agree (Highway 1W is signed as Route 10 there).

Also, what do you think about the succession boxes on Route 69 (Oregon) as an alternate to the huge box now in use on most articles? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 08:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm. [2] talks about the 99W signage - apparently there's nothing south of the split with 10, and not much north of there. Several signs in that area (like [3]) also show US 26 going where it no longer goes - it's possible that ODOT screwed up when they posted the signs. Are these the only ones that show 99W? [4] [5] [6] --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 09:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:Wikipedia

Template:Wikipedia has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Wikipedia. Thank you.--Eloquence* 10:33, 7 February 2006 (UTC)



[edit] Oprah Winfrey

Why do you keep changing her mother's name? What's your source? Her mother's name is already well documented and without conroversy. Rklawton 17:42, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Open Proxy List

I've scanned the list and the open proxies are now blocked. Thanks! Tawker 06:41, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of "Anti-Pattern"

You said in Talk:Anti-pattern that you'd check for the origin of the term - did you? PJTraill 18:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: As You Predicted

Greetings and felicitations. I hope you are well.

With regard to a previous discussion of ours, you might want to take a gander at -- Makes certain operators of interactive computer services and Internet service providers liable to persons injured by false or defamatory messages posted on public forum websites.

Just when I thought I was being silly. Marcopolo 04:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: NJ state bill

You asked "Do you have any idea how this is likely to fare?"

In a word, No. This one simply blind-sided me. During the night I saw the link to it that Drudge put up. My virtually immediate thought on looking at the page was to write you a heads up. Up to that point I hadn't even logged on under my user name in at least a couple of weeks.

My guess is that by itself the bill is not especially relevant since I can't see how one state can pass effective legislation regulating the entire internet. The political dimensions, on the other hand, are I think consequential. I'm supose we disagreed about the implications of the legislation that Declan McCullagh wrote about back in January. With that one, I went back over the entire history of the legislation, farther apparently than McCullagh did meaning no disrespect to him, and I think that bill when considered in the context of existing law that it changes does exactly what McCullagh suggested it does, even though most of the legislators who voted for it probably had no idea that it does that.

During recent press statements regarding NSA monitoring of communications and possible legislation that would retro-actively legalize it, Senator Jay Rockfeller (D-WVa) argued that more review of the proposed legislation is necessary, "Or else we could get into something which is very dangerous, but which does happen, and that is that the Congress passes legislation which has very bad unintended consequences." I'm thinking, and I need to check this, that Rockfeller co-sponsored the other legislation.

The thrust of my thinking on this is that each of these things are elements, some of law, some of manufactured political consensus, and that the final edifice that is being constructed is at this point merely suspected rather than clearly seen.

I've done a lot more research into all of this as it relates to the Seigenthaler deal than is apparent right now. My thought back in December was that I would assemble what I was looking for very quickly and share it all with this community. Typically the research has continued on indefinitely. In addition, in my middle age I am more preoccupied with writing fiction. My thinking has been that I will use all of what I got to write a work of fantastic speculative fiction based upon all of it, which I would share through my user page somehow or other. But sadly it has all gotten simply out of hand. The implications touch upon issues dating back centuries.

Ah, well, eventually something may happen with that. In the meantime, I read the article on Section 230. Judging by the history of the article, I am guessing that most of it is your work, and I am thinking it is very good quality work. Marcopolo 16:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pirate rock

I have nominated this for deletion, since we have no sources and there's no way to know which bands are included. Thought you might want to know, so you can edit or comment on the deletion or something. Ned Wilbury 15:41, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello Section 230 expert

Hi there. I've noticed that you're a bit of an expert on Section 230. I thought I would introduce myself, as I am writing my law school thesis on the application of 230(c)(1) to Wikipedia. Based on my research (I've read all 50-ish of the 230(c)(1) cases - took a while!), Wikipedia is probably not going to be liable for defamatory speech that appears on its pages. But, that's because of the very broad reading that courts have given 230(c)(1)'s language - a reading that isn't self-evident, particularly in light of the legislative history. My thesis is a rebuttal to those that argue for the narrowing of judicial interpretation of 230(c)(1) to fit Congressional intent. Damned thing is due in a few weeks and I still don't have a "rebuttal" part yet, heh heh, but I figure there have to be fairly good reasons out there not to impose liability on projects such as Wikipedia.

Oh, the URL for the NJ bill has changed (not sure why). The new one is: http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2006/Bills/A1500/1327_I2.HTM. The interesting thing is that state law preemption only extends to those state laws that are "inconsistent" with 230 (47 USC 230(e)(3)). Technically, I don't think this is directly inconsistent, though I think a court might find some inconsistency at a higher level of generality.

Anyway, I plan on adding some to the 230 article, as I get around to it. I just figured it would polite to introduce myself. And if you have any thoughts on the matter - please! - I need to graduate.

One last thing - I'm looking for changes in Wikipedia policies in reaction to the Seigenthaler incident. So far I have that unregistered users can no longer create pages and the whole "Office Action" thing. As you've been around for a bit longer, I'm hoping that you might have a bit better perspective on that.

I look forward to conversing with you. --Ksm10 21:09, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WIkiproject Oregon

Wikiproject Oregon is now up and running! I invite you to join at WP:WPOR PDXblazers 22:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please have a look.

Hi,

I decided that we were getting a lot of information on what spiders are dangerous on the Black Widow page so I wanted to break that out. I started an article on Dangerous_spiders and before I could even get the formatting straight somebody had fixed a first-order deletion notice on it claiming that the assertion that some spiders are dangerous is "subjective." My whole point was to have a central place where we could assemble the LD-50s and deaths per thousand incidents statistics. (I was quite surprised to see that the widow spiders actually kill more people world wide than the spiders with more problematical venom. I guess that is like more people getting killed with .45 calibre pistol fire than are killed by larger bore elephant guns.) Anyway, if you have time please take a look at the article. I have tried to assemble some of the stats but right now things are a bit murky, e.g., one site seems to have totally lost a decimal point -- either that or the spider's venom volume is bigger than its head. But the general conclusions seem pretty consistent and useful. It doesn't really matter for ranking whether one study measures venom volumes one way and another study does something else so their numbers don't match -- as long as proportionally about the same.

Thanks. P0M 21:15, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions. I agree about the tarantulas, too. http://www.bighairyspiders.com/bites.shtml has some reports of bites whose consequences go beyond what I would call merely painful or distressing. Poecilotheria regalis (Indian ornamental) spider bites can produce really alarming consequences. Todd Gearheart is one of the tarantula dealers who seems to have a real love for and interest in tarantulas, and he is very careful to indicate which spiders are aggressive and which spiders have medically significant venom. I bought a huntsman spider from him because I wanted to understand why I once had my pencil attacked by one in a manner that seemed definitely aggressive (although probably it was really prey error), and he was emphatic about the need to avoid bites. Even in the case of the Australian and Brazilian problem biters, descriptions of bites generally indicate that the spiders are giving "Keep away!" signals before they bite. Many of the tarantula bites that I've read about seem to occur when the spiders are surprised in or near their shelters. Even so, they are not gentle and inoffensive creatures like my Avicularia metallica. (In near darkness I once pushed her from the wrong end and wondered why she would not move.)

I suspect that there are medically significant venoms out there that we may never learn about simply because the spiders are not inclined to bite and generally manage to escape contact. I'm not sure what to do about the S. Asian spiders with significant venom. There is one spider in Taiwan that has a very bad reputation, but not many bites have been medically evaluated.

The LD-50 information is not very relevant without knowledge of the amount of venom available to the spider, and even then some species are believed not to hold back where others may generally give dry bites. What would be the most useful information is the number of deaths per 1000 bites, but there don't seem to be good statistics in most cases. I'v got to find a good example of a multi-row, multi-column table and start collecting the evaluations of various kinds that are available.

Some of the information that is available on the WWW is really wild. A while back there was a spate of evaluations of bites by Phidippus johnsoni jumping spiders. A dermatological magazine identified them as the biggest problem biters in all of California. I can't put my observations on Wikipedia, but I bought one and have handled it many times without seeing any indication that it might go out of its way to bite people. On the other hand it's a very heavy-bodied spider so it moves very slowly for a jumping spider and could easily be caught by kids or even adults who get attracted by its attractive coloration. I've gotten deserved defensive bites from much smaller Phidippus specimens and it's not fun, so I can imagine that a quadruple dose of similar venom probably would create a lasting impression. It may be that a fair number of people get bitten by these spiders, but the statistics probably wouldn't give an indication of whose fault it was.

Thanks again. I've heard no more from the original critic. P0M 10:05, 28 March 2006 (UTC)


Back again. I've worked out a table of reported stats on the main problem biters. Please have a look at the table I have created for Spiders having medically significant venom as there are some strange consequences to some of the figures I've found. In particular, the Atrax spiders are said to have 140 mg. of venom. I suspect that it must be 14, which would still give them enough venom to kill a large man. Given the fact that the LD-50s reported are mostly for mice, the results cannot be very well applied to humans with any reliability. Nevertheless they seem to hang together fairly well with what is known about bites anecdotally. I need to standardize some units, convert from nanograms, etc., but as long as I do that simple math correctly that part should be easy. I'd like to know how much an Atrax spider weighs. If I could remember how many bees/pound there are I guess I could estimate it fairly well.

I agree with the critic of the spider page that the Phidippus johnsoni probably doesn't need to be discussed there, but maybe we need a place for "spider myths". There is already a good website by that name. If what I have been playing with is indeed a P. johnsoni, then their reputation is entirely undeserved. I've manipulated her up onto my hand in a way that surely let her know that something was coming after her, and she hasn't even made a threat display yet. P0M 01:53, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

The problem appears to be that I do not understand what "dry weight" means. The same medical article gave a much more reasonable amount of venom when reporting amounts harvested and amounts obtained by dissection--about 1/20 of the other figure. P0M 03:36, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Niagakiw

Thanks for the notice, EngineerScotty. I've issued Niagakiw (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) an indefinite block. Regards, Sango123 (e) 00:35, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

All right, the sockpuppets aren't stopping anytime soon, so I've sprotected the page. Thanks, Sango123 (e) 00:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism of Wikipedia

Thank you for your message on my talk page. I was aware of that. However a blog or web forum of disgruntled users would hardly qualify as a reputable publication per WP:V. So on that basis wikipedia review (sic) could still be excluded. An article interviewing Lir, Blu Aardvark (Jeffrey Latham), or Selina would be a more suitable source. I added {{fact}} because of the weasel terms. -- Malber (talk · contribs) 18:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I think these edits by Malber explain things personal attack and two. Also User page vandalism and he was blocked for other personal attacks and again for talk page vandalism (which he still does) DyslexicEditor 20:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
As I said in the talk page, Malber's conduct is irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not Criticism of Wikipedia is notable or not. I happen to disagree with him; but as he remains a Wikipedian in good standing, he certainly has a right to voice his opinion on the matter. Of course, given the bad blood between him and the WR crowd, he may be a biased source. --EngineerScotty 20:38, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia

Which "controversial changes" do you refer on!? Is that new name for the true facts on wikipedia, or is it seems to me like Wikipedia is becoming more and more authoritarian place! Regards,

Rens

[edit] Experts

Yes, it can become somewhat controversial this topic, I am afraid. Anyway, more editing to do.KimvdLinde 05:16, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Wikiproject Oregon!

Welcome to Wikiproject Oregon! Your contributions to Oregon related articles are appreciated and encouraged. Our current major projects are a collaboration to improve the main Oregon article to featured status, and to create infoboxes for all Oregon cities. Feel free to help out with these or any Oregon related articles. Thank you and welcome to the project. PDXblazers 05:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chinese

Yes, I do edit on the Chinese Wikipedia sometimes. Right now I'm in afterburn condition, having just finished final exams and grade posting. I have one more little problem to deal with and then I'll be free of anything immediately pressing and may be able to do more on C.W. I've one other pressing task at the moment -- getting everything on my Mac backed up onto CD-ROMs. My old Mac is finally showing its ago, and I may have to get a new one. Meanwhile, I want to be sure that everything is properly lined up.

Cantonese is a neat language, I suspect. I know a little Taiwanese, which is more remote from Mandarin than is Cantonese. Between the two of them I can occasionally make out a word or two of Cantonese. Learning any of these languages is an enormous task. I remember taking a summer intensive in French and being able to read in that language about as well as I could read Chinese after four years in Taiwan. The summer project for me is to try one more time to work out the perfect curriculum and textbook. I've got character teaching down to a pretty reasonable process. The current crop of textbooks doesn't work well for spoken Chinese because they flood students with more vocabulary than they can possibly absorb.

Are you anywhere near Bend? When I was soldering the sockets for my first Big Board computer I subscribed to a magazine published there, Microcornucopia, that had some of the best technical writing I've ever seen. About the time Xerox bought the Big Board circuit to use in the new Xerox 820 the editor/published finally burned out. What he did afterwards I know not.

I'll check those articles.

P0M 02:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the first article you mentioned is o.k. (I made a couple of minor edits to fix "number" of noun and related verb.) But the article on Ornithoctoninae has a problem that I would guess must come from sticking too close to the German text. I think the real point is not that the surface of the ground in of secondary importance (or however it was worded), but that in constructing a place for these spiders to live the main thing that needs to be considered is enough depth for their burrows (and maybe some encouragement that they dig next to the glass so that you can still see them). That means that the space "topside" is not very important, and doesn't have to be very tall, because the spiders do not spend much time wandering outside their burrows and even less are they inclined to crawl upwards. (I had a Grammastola rosea for years, and she actually was quite motivated to get out of her cage and go places. I had a tunnel made from her terrarium to a screened in window casement, and she liked to go climbing. But I suppose these spiders are not so adventuresome.) It probably wouldn't help me to have the German text. What might help you would be to diagram whatever they think the desirable terrarium plan is, put the German text aside, and then describe the terrarium setup from scratch. (I seem to remember an "x" with another "x" above it. I suspect that it should be an "x" with a "y" above it.) I'm starting to get sleepy, so I hope this part makes sense.

About the several articles -- I think many Wikipedia articles go astray because they don't have a planned context. That's natural because so many of them are written ad hoc. One contentious article is "Race and Intelligence." There needs to be a more general article on "Factors that influence phenotypic intelligence." Since there is no such article there has been lots of hot air wasted arguing whether, e.g., the article should not really be about "Nutrition and Intelligence." I think that the Ornithoctoninae article should ideally discuss what characteristics make it "a natural" to group these spiders together. (I assume that nobody has really worked out the genetics yet.) I'm not sure where H. lividum comes from, but I gather it is not anywhere near S.E. Asia or China. So ideally it would appear as a mention in the general article along with the dozen or so other Haplopelma species. Then the spiders in adjacent areas should go in separate articles. I am thinking this solution would be especially appropriate in this case since it seems to be unclear whether some of these spiders belong to different species or just to different sub-species. Even if they actually have diverged enough genetically that they can't inter-breed, the likelihood is that the ones that are closest together have branched relatively recently in the past, and it is also possible that there are similar pockets of other Haplopelma species in the Middle East or wherever.

After reading your message before last I got feeling a little guilty and decided to grade my late-blooming student's paper. (Somehow he managed to submit it 15 minutes after I was required to e-mail my grades to the registrar.) I needn't have worried. What was requested was a 5-7 page analysis, but what was received was short enought that it might have been written in the quarter of an hour after the deadline expired. Go figure.

I think many of the computer people involved with Microcornucopia were possibly graduates of or teachers at a college or university in Bend. Communicating via the magazine was slower than doing things on Wikipedia, but it was a similar group of well-meaning and enthusiastic people. It is amazing what one could get done with 64k of RAM and a couple of 8" floppy drives.

I just remembered something. The article you translated said that they make a threat display and then when that fails they hit with their fangs, and if that doesn't work then they bite? I haven't played with this genus, but my guess based on the behavior of other tarantulas is that they will first make a threat display, second strike with their front legs (coming down out of threat display mode), and then bite. Even if I am nudging the tarantula with a pencil or a chopstick and it strikes like that I still jump a mile. It's quite an effective scare tactic. But I don't understand how the spider could jab out at you somehow with its fangs. My experience is that when a spider actually attacks it is fast like an arrow being shot from a bow -- and is not something that the spider could fake or stop in the middle. And if the spider hits you with its fangs at any speed there would likely be some penetration. In short it sounds like somebody got slapped with the front legs of one of these spiders and was so shocked by the experience that s/he never wanted to try it again to try to understand what really happened. The only possible way I can think of that it might work would be if the spider extended its fangs as part of its threat display and then jumped at you. That would still be analogous to somebody holding a knife with his arm fully extended and then jumping right at me. If there was any contact at all I would get cut. And another thing, if the spider approached the attacker close enough to prod with its fangs and yet didn't actually bite then it would open itself to a counter attack. That's different from slapping down with the front legs, which are pretty far out in front of the spider. To do that would be comparable to a boxer extending an arm to the maximum and giving a warning jab. In such a case if the other guy is moderately defensive about the most he can do is to attack the jabbing fist/forearm. P0M 06:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image templates

Awesome article about the New Carissa. Just so you know, there are more specific public domain tags for images, like {{PD-USGov-DHS-CG}} for the Coast Guard and {{PD-USGov-DOC-NOAA}}} for NOAA. It's usually better to tag images with as specific a copyright as possible, so that the copyright status is as clear as possible. You can see the full list at WP:ICT. If you have any questions about this, hit me back on my talk page. the iBook of the Revolution 06:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Imposter

Thanks for pointing that out to me. It took me forever to find the person he was imposter too (I was trying every variant to your name I could and still couldn't get it right) ;-) I'll have to keep an eye out for User:Unemployed, living in basement. Thanks for telling me.. DGX 06:28, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Smile

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-- Malber (talk • contribs) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

[edit] New Carissa

I think it's a solid article right now. I am pretty sure we would need to do some cleanup of the references and links to conform to WP:CITE, and I am sure there are many other things we need to do make the article comply with WP:MOS in general, but the great part is that there are plenty of free images and data from the NOAA, Coast Guard, etc. which I think really add to the article, not to mention a large amount of research available on the web since it was a relatively recent event.
Let's keep working on it. I think it still needs more content, as some of the sections are relatively brief. Once it is fleshed out we can nominate it for a WP:Peer review which is a step toward WP:GOOD or featured status, which would be great! -Big Smooth 20:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for requesting a Peer Review, I had been meaning to do so myself. I think the article is great and satisfies or is very close to meeting the standards of Wikipedia:What is a featured article? but I am curious to see what other editors will think. Hopefully, we can make a few minor tweaks and it will become a featured article. -Big Smooth 22:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Programming language

Why did you jump in and make so many major changes to the programming language article? If you look at the history you will see that many people spent a lot of time tuning the existing material. Your material has merit, let's figure out how to integrate it in. Derek farn 00:37, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I hope Derek farn doesn't discourage you from participating. There are many people with many opinions about the article, and I personally welcome your participation. Derek is only one editor, and he has also had trouble with me. Actually, as a result we are taking a break from editing, but when we resume I hope you won't hesitate to join us. Ideogram 03:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

That's great; we could really use a better (and better referenced) definition. Ideogram 05:07, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

How's that definition coming? We're back to active editing, but you may want to discuss your proposed changes before making them. Ideogram 10:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge request for Chiropractic Skepticism

Thanks for this request to merge. The user who started this is doing so because a self-promotion article about his forum that he has also tried to start has been nominated for deletion, based mainly on non-notable and "not a soapbox" WP principles.. Please read the comments on the AFD page and I'd love to read your feelings on this matter as well. Levine2112 19:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spider reorganization

Hi, Scotty,

For right now I'm just trying to figure out a way to clear up a very messy feature of the current spider article--we have two sections (that come immediately after my new link) that repeat the stuff about bites. I have also noticed that we have articles about genera that do not appear in the taxonomy box. So we need to do two or three things for the encyclopedia readers (besides the reproduction stuff, etc.):

  • Show and explain the main categories of spiders.
  • Show people how they can find information about the spiders they have found and are interested in. For instance, somebody has found a Steotoda and doesn't know what it is. We have an article on that genus, but the person currently has no easy way of finding the information short of reading through all of the linked articles that look like they may be relevant.
  • Give people the information that most people who write in to the talk page want to know: Is the critter in my entryway dangerous to my kids?

I just did one level below the "Identifying spiders" article by sketching out the Theriidae. That page will remain mostly images by means of which readers may spot the kind of spider they want an article on, and I will add links as the next part of my editing.

I'll see how things look after I get a bit more done. I think I can consolidate those two sections and make things both shorter and clearer. To me, the new article is essentially an indexing device to improve the way spin-off articles are found from our main article.

By the way, if we are going to mention that Steotoda give nasty bites, we need to bring in some of the tarantulas and a couple of other spiders that are regarded as heavy biters. The trouble is getting any quantitative idea of how bad the bites are. Listening to people bellyaching about being bitten by Phidippus johnsoni you would think they nearly died, and then when they actually describe the symptoms and how many hours their hands hurt you realize there is nothing much to it. On the other hand, on one of the tarantula sites they have a report on one tarantula bite that kept the guy in a sorry state for days. I would have gone to the emergency room in the hospital myself, but he just suffered through it.

Best,

Pat (P0M)


I removed the note on Mesothelae venom. It may have been a mistake in something on the Tung Hai University page, which is now gone, but I think I found an indirect reference to it that indicates that it was really talking about Macrothele whether it said so or not. Likely it was my mistake. P0M 16:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] cool it scott.

see this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Recent_changes_patrol#Suggestions_for_patrollers

see the part:'Try not to step on people's toes. Many times, users will start an article as the briefest of stubs, and then expand it over the succeeding hours or days.'??

well, i am the author of that article you complained about (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_513). why would you search for an author on Amazon? seriously, this is my first book and i want it to have a breif wiki on it before it is released. im not trying to start a flame, but could you wait more than fourteen minutes after an article is created before putting it up for delition?. yes i am author of the book.

the article is finished for now. try to not be such a weirdo from now on. thx

--Lucky 13 08:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Dynamobarnet

Don't forget to subst usertalk templates, such as {{welcome}} - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 20:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protecting user talk pages

Per Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy, this should only be done as a last resort. Since the anon has only vandalized the page twice, I don't think it needs to be semi-protected yet. I'll continue to watch the user's talk page and will semi-protect it if the anon keeps vandalizing it. (If you notice vandalism going on there and don't get a quick response from me, you can post a request for semi-protection at WP:RFPP.) --Idont Havaname (Talk) 23:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

By now, it was really getting obnoxious, and I have done it two days later. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 16:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] TRACKLIST

I just left Noune a note asking what the article is supposed to be. I'm very confused. Teke 00:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semiprotected

I semi protected your user page after a series of IP vandals took a series of hits at it. I can unblock it if you want, just let me know. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 04:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I had one along that line also some time ago. Shit happens. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 04:52, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] (assuming this exists...)

I'm putting up screens soon, it's actually a really fun (and rare) video game. See Banana (video game)

[edit] World Cup discipline

I had assumed that my edit summary satisfactorily addressed the invitation in the talk page to remove the distinction that you had introduced. If I thought it appropriate, I would have put such a distinction into the table when I made it. I wouldn't want a reversion war, so what do you think? Kevin McE 01:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Similar User Name

Our user names are very similar. Hope this doesn't cause any confusion :) EngineerScoty 03:00, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Hey there. If this is a continuing problem, you might want to read Wikipedia:Doppelganger account and do what it says. I've created a few accounts to help protect myself from impersonation. Someone's out to get you! Grandmasterka 05:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Don't forget if you talking with others about the category that you put a : in front of Category, otherwise the page gets the category designation, and could distorts the meaning of your text a little like in the case of User_talk:KimvdLinde#User:EngineerScoty where "two other imposters in the past" got turned into "two other in the past". Looks like you got it right when you mentioned it on your talk page, though. Kevin_b_er 08:17, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another impersonator

Ola, I left a comment expanding on yours at WP:AIV, but I mistakenly thought that the vandal him/herself had left the block notice on the page to trick the admins. Looking back now, I see that you added the notice, so excuse me! I feel sheepish for confusing the vandal and the real thing :) Ziggurat 20:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "No right to complain"

If you don't want doppelgangers, impersonators, or people erasing your work, then stop deleting other people's work. The fart personality test page was meant as a real page about a joke, like many other such pages. You asked me to sight my sources, and I did. You then preemptively deleted the page. If you want to consider apologizing, I will stop. My IP is very dynamic, so no one can block me. For future reference, what goes around comes around. 65.142.158.3 22:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] impersonator?

There is another comment attributed to you on User talk:KimvdLinde. It's at the bottom of the page; you might want to take a look....but judging by the comment above you won't need to look too far. Good luck Doc Tropics 22:45, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. I have some free time so let me know if I can help keep an eye on things for you. Doc Tropics 22:51, 21 June 2006 (UTC)


Thanks Scotty. I'm planning to join RC Patrol when I have more experience. For now I look for questionable changes (like the one to Kim's page), vandalism and copyvios, then bring it to the attention of someone who is better equipped to make a judgement about it. I'm really tempted to end with a comment like "We need more power Scotty!", but you have got to be sooo bored with those :) Doc Tropics 23:17, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apologies

The deletion tag on Oldham Advertiser was an accident.Sorry for any trouble.

Best Regards;
Geo. 23:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jesus migration

There are two of these pages, so I tagged one for deletion, and will leave a vandal tag on the creator's page. Geo. 00:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WarCraft movie

Someone deleted a huge article on the movie and wouldn't tell me why and I wrote the article aproximatly 20 seconds ago so give it some time. Jamhaw 18:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)jamhaw

  • I know the guy named seven blades or something just deleted it and ignored me he have blanked the page or something I don't know just trust me it was rather big and it was called Warcraft Live action movie give or take the capitals. Jamhaw 18:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)jamhaw

[edit] Internet connection at conference

Nah, not back, just logging in from the conference.... Bad me.... Do not worry, being an admin has its downsides, such as vandalism at you pages and so....-- Kim van der Linde at venus 05:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Women's nigeria team

hey, i read your tag. i know it's not much of an article yet, but i'm gonna keep working on it, and i figured someone better start it. -- preschooler@heart 06:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plant Vagina

I deleted this because even if valid it should not be capitalised, thanks, jimfbleak 18:32, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your PROD on eCustoms

The user who created the article you proposed for deletion has been adding some other content as well. I think that User:Customs Compliance Specialists (talk) (contribs) is encroaching the line between contributing and vandalism. I'm not a very experienced editor, so I was hoping to draw your attention to their activity so that I'm not the only person looking at it. The last thing I want to do is follow them, clean up after them, and then be asked to stop because I was unfamiliar with Wikipedia policy such as WP:DBTN. BigNate37 20:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mothers against decapentaplegic homolog

Thanks for the input. Yes, it is indeed a real class of proteins. I do not know the exact history of the name, however I do know that there are many proteins that have unusual and unbelievable names. In facter there is a 'daughters against decapentaplegic' class of proteins. I put an expanation in the talk page after realizing that many people believed that it is not a real protein. I did suggest that people click on the links to OMIM, Pubmed and ENTREZ etc. which are official government sites that log proteins. There are many proteins that I'mnm adding. If I can find the exact reasoning behind the nomenclature I will add a trivia or nomenclature section directly to the article. Since, right now it is only a stub, I haven't added anymore than basic information about the proteinGAThrawn22 21:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment. I am the editor who nominated the article for deletion, which I feel slightly embarassed about. Though it would have helped if he had explained the title.--Anthony.bradbury 00:37, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Block of User:81.11.202.55

Well, it was intended to be a 48 hour block (I moved one notch too far down on the pull-down menu), but I agree that it might be overkill. :) Feel free to instate a different block length, I have no objection. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 21:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Blocked both IPs for 3 hours, protected the article against anon edits. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 21:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I made a mistake

The weirdess was unintentional, I didn't realize the vandal made back to back edits and my reversion must have been set to the first edit by the vandal and not to the previous edit. Sorry for the inconnvience. --FrankCostanza 22:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Content dispute on F-14 Tomcat

It appears we have decided to leave the F-14 page and its talk page untouched to cool off(well, I agreed to, and Wiarthurhu has seemed to leave it alone), on the advice of another wikipedian. However, he has branched out to insert the material in dispute into other articles, General Dynamics F-111[7] and Robert McNamara[8], almost verbatim. Having used the article content RFC process before, I find it highly ineffective. Informal RfC's have been posted on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history and Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft with the aim of drawing in interested and qualified editors, two of whom have weighed in (one of whom suggested we both take a break from the F-14 article and talk page). I have also posted

to try to draw more eyes into this.

I just saw that Wiarthuhu is now defaming me on other article talk pages: [9]. As the core dispute between the two of us is over exactly the issues hashed out on Talk:F-14 Tomcat, I'd like to avoid repeating it on several talk pages, but so far the conduct I've observed hasn't risen to the leven of user-conduct RfC's, or at least the one's I've observed lately. Any advice on how to proceed?

--Mmx1 23:17, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Completely understood regarding your neutrality; I was just looking to give you a sense of the breadth of the situation and the steps already taken. --Mmx1 23:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another Sock Puppet of Unemployed, living in basement

It looks like User:Sirrom nodnarb yerffej could be another sock puppet of Unemployed, living in basement / User:Brando03 -- you might want to check this out 65.138.68.11 03:38, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dan Sperber article

Hi. I was inclined to agree with your speedy deletion notice on the Dan Sperber article, but then I did a little checking -- this guy's pretty noteworthy. I put a hang-on tag on the article and additional comments on the talk page. The article's creator needs to expand this article.

--A. B. 07:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Can you...

Delete User: Conservative Joe since no one is using the account? Thanks.

63.23.50.162 01:23, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I can't figure out how to clean the template on the Lexington-Fayette-Frankfort-Richmond Combined Statistical Area page. 65.138.68.1 03:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SDI and template

Hi, glad to see that you noticed that. The long and short of it is that the project consensus at the moment is that things such as connectors are more in the electronics/engineering realm, not solely the filmmaking one. I'm a bit split on the issue myself, but given the others' opinions and the vast scope of the project already, I certainly understand their reasoning. Thanks for the message! Girolamo Savonarola 21:35, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The entry on James H. "Cole" Palen at Wikipedia...

Dear EngineerScotty:

"User:The PIPE" here...I have been an antique aviation buff just about all my life, and the entry at Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole_Palen is about someone who was every BIT as valuable to the preservation of antique aircraft, and their authentic replication and actual operation in flight, as the person mentioned at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Nelson_Blount was to the preservation and actual operation of antique railroad equipment...both these individuals placed a very high value on giving visitors to their collections the chance to SEE vintage transportation technology in operation, very much as they were used, as when they were first created.

The Smithsonian Institution regularly contacted Cole Palen over the years of his life, about hard-to-find practical information about pre-World War II aviation and its technology, to fill in gaps they themselves had in their information trust about those rearly years of aviation, at the National Air & Space Museum. This piece of imformation came from the Smithsonian book, now out-of-print, on the Albatros D Va fighter plane of WW I Germany, which the Smithsonian has an original one of in their collection...and which Old Rhinebeck has a flyable, fully authentic, full scale reproduction of in theirs.

The Florida based aviation museum with its website at http://www.fantasyofflight.com/ , and mentioned briefly at Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_of_Flight , was created by Kermit Weeks, who, as a child, was a visitor at Cole Palen's Old Rhinebeck museum and was inspired to have a flyable aviation collection of his own as an adult, as stated by Kermit himself in a television interview a few years ago.

I also MET Cole Palen in person many times in my many visits to Old Rhinebeck since 1972, which occurred both before Cole's own passing and afterwards, and was always impressed by his willingness to help others interested in aviaiton history, and after his passing (before his widow Rita passed, I think in 2003 and NOT 2002 as the Wikipedia article indicated) with the volunteers such as Ken Cassens and Bill and Dave King, who had directly worked with Cole.

Even the sound designer for the first of the Star Wars movies, mentioned at Wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Burtt , has connections in their own youth with Cole Palen...as mentioned in a message from someone to me about Mr. Burtt's beginnings in filmmaking when he was an adolescent:

"Cole encouraged a group of college students who were making a WWI swashbucker to film some ground sequences at the Aerodrome. The film, which was premiered in the Red Hook [NY] theater, won first prize at a national competition and one of the kids, Ben Burtt, got a job wth George Lucas. He did the sound design for all the Star Wars movies, edited the last one as well, and directed some of the "Young Indiana Jones" TV shows! Not bad for a guy who started his career [Cole Palen] eating his lunch in the cockpit of an old SPAD in a hangar at Roosevelt Field."

Just "as an aside", briefly, a management team that seems to have NO idea how to properly operate a museum of operational antique transportation artifacts such as Old Rhinebeck has been in charge of Mr. Palen's facility since the passing of his widow, with the resulting deterioration of the facility chronicled at an Internet forum thread at http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13739. of which I've been a contributor, more than a fair number of times. This forum "thread" is now up over 270 pages in length, and shows (for the most part) the frustration that people like yours truly, and others (one or two of whom have gotten amicably to know me as well) who support Cole's museum, want to see a BETTER fate than what could happen with such uninformed and sadly stubborn people, operating a museum that SHOULD be operating as closely as possible to how it did when Cole was still alive.

I'm just VERY concerned that Cole Palen gets the TRUE type of category placement here at Wikipedia that people like himself, F. Nelson Blount, and others (like Bradford Washburn, the person who gave the world the "modern" style of science museum, pioneered by the Boston Museum of Science) who have started different, unique, and unusual museums and institutions for people who have wanted to personally experience things they might never get to see or sense otherwise, outside of their own life experiences, and daily experiences.

Perhaps a new category such as "pioneer historians". "preservationists", or SOMETHING like that can be agreed to and established here at Wikipedia...I just want to have Cole Palen represented PROPERLY here a Wikipedia, as I may, in fact, write a Wikipedia article someday about Cole if this current entry about him that I've referred to IS removed because of it "not fitting properly" into a previously established category.

Yours Sincerely,

The PIPE.

[edit] ...

But I can thankyou for letting me know, right?--Crestville 11:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indiana Civil Rights Council

I notice that you removed the csd tag from this article while making other changes. This seems an obvious csd candidate to me because it does not assert notability. However, I could do an AfD nom if you disagree or just give you time to establish notability, if you intend to do this. Please let me know what your preference is on my talk page. Thanks, JChap 04:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Normally an article could be speedied if it did not assert (in the article itself) the notability of the subject, as this article does not. I have no strong feelings on this one way or another either (other than not liking spam) but agree that you have turned it into a good stub. Although I think spam should generally be deleted as a matter of course, it seems that this organization does have some notability and that there is enough material for the article to be expanded. Therefore, I am not planning on proposing this one for deletion. JChap 05:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why are you stalking me?

You seem to putting a lot of time and energy into harassing me. You've modified my user page and my discussion page, participated in RfD discussions against me, delete edited my articles, hurled irrational accusations and threats, and created lists of links pointing at my contributions, etc. What did I do to you? Didn't you say you specialize in RC patrol? Those RCs are flying by at the rate of several per second. The only way you're going to keep up with them all is by keeping your nose to the grindstone, not up my . . . alley. -Advocron 16:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article got changed to "poisonous spiders"

Hi,

What do you think would be the best way to handle this situation? Whoever made the change doesn't know the difference between venom and poison, and probably doesn't understand that the article serves as a sub-page to the spider article. I'm tempted to just change it back, but that could lead to an edit war. P0M 15:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brazil

Here's what I got from that article:

17785 envenomations in three years

7470 Phoneutria spider bites recorded 0.5% of wandering spider bites are medically significant = 37 in three years or around 12/year.

2000/year Loxosceles bites, so that would be 6000/3years, somewhat fewer than Phoneutria. The article does not say how many of them were medically significant.

No numbers are given for Latrodectus bites, but the math is as follows: 17785-7470-6000= 4315, or around 1438/year. The text says that Phoneutria, Loxosceles, and Latrodectus are the main ones involved in bites that get reported, so it is possible that some bites are actually from Lycosidae or yet other genera.

The article calls Loxosceles bites “one of the most serious forms of envenomation” (or something like that), not the most serious form. The reason Loxosceles bites seem to get this degree of attention despite no deaths (apparently) being reported is probably that if one doesn’t die from a Phoneutria spider bite then there is a total recovery, whereas a non-fatal Loxosceles bite can still involve substantial long-term tissue damage and even systemic problems. If the Latrodectus venom is indeed less toxic than that of L. mactans, then probably deaths could occur only in the case of case of children. But, fortunately, Brazilian parents seem to be protecting their children well.

I sent the person who changed the article title a message. So far he has not responded. P0M 04:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr whatshisface

Me thinks I just reverted and it be time we tag this guy for sockpuppetry. Ryūlóng 05:57, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spider section -> WikiProject?

hi,

as you've already noticed, i have created a taxonomic backbone for the spider section in the last two weeks. i think that i have now most articles on spider taxa normalized into this structure. I was wondering if you would participate in a WikiProject Spiders; this could have the effect of giving new contributors an insight of the structure of the spider section, and how best to coordinate contributions. For example, certain conventions could be explained on a central project page, and some TODO's presented:

  • try to link to a species list from a genus page taxobox; reason: the species lists will be updated in synchrony with platnick's spider catalog. so if you want to see if something changed, you can click this link (diversity).
  • pages on arachnologists
  • picture collection/liberation efforts; some people are willing to license their pictures under a free license when asked. this could be coordinated.
  • interaction with other sites on the web; eg. the maintainer of the nearctic spider database showed interest in this.
  • hot spots: where work is needed most
  • other small stuff: always italicize genera + species names, how to categorize pages
  • etc.

My impression was that the spider section was a bit moribund until recently, with only very few people contributing. I'm not sure why that is, the butterfly section seems to be quite organized. so i guess spider enthusiasts just have not yet realized the possibilities of a spider section in wiki. so if those would stumble upon this section more often while googling for example, this could lead to more contributors. there are some guys in the german wiki that work on spiders (about four), and i guess these two wikis could be coordinated too. i translated several german spider pages into the en.wp, and one german wikipedian has shown interest in using the species lists in the german wp. so, tell me if you are interested, or if you think it would make sense at all to create a project for this.

cheers --Sarefo 04:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Spiders

ok, i started the project: Wikipedia:WikiProject Spiders. Feel free to contribute/change/idle by ;)

--Sarefo 15:16, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of defamation incidents

Greetings! I have deleted the list of defamation incidents that you began in Wikipedia space. While I appreciate your aims in documenting it, we should not republish this defamatory material, not even in project space. Thanks for your understanding, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 15:34, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yerian

Thanks for adding that bit about C. Theo Yerian. I was puzzled about why he was categorized as an inventor of a writing system and yet no mention was made of it in the article. But not puzzled enough to do anything about it. ;) Katr67 17:56, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bluecanoe

Thanks! --Awiseman 18:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spider article rating

hi scotty,

i just noticed that you rated the 'poisonous spider' article (i am right now trying to tag all spider articles with the WPSpider template). as i understood it, the GA rating should be reserved for articles that were actually voted Good Article, so i changed the rating to A. tell me if you think i got it wrong. and don't hesitate to change my ratings, they are rather superficial, my main aim atm is to get all articles into the project. please check this page for discussion on what's going on (or should be) at WPSpider. ceeya :) --Sarefo 00:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oregon community articles

Hi, I don't think we've formally talked before, but we're both on Wikiproject Oregon. I see you've added several new unincorporated communitiy articles. Yay! How do I know this? I watch *all* the redlinked Oregon community articles I can find (and I think I found 'em all). Yeah, that's a little weird. Anyway, I'm temped to do some tweaking of your articles to make them consistent with the established ones, but I don't want you to think I'm stalking you or anything. I'm an obsessive, but not that way. :) Happy editing and thanks for your contributions!

P.S. Should all Oregon-related articles be tagged as being part of the Wikiproject? I've always been a little unclear on that, so I haven't been doing it on the articles I've started.

Katr67 14:29, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, I'm well aware of Wikipedia:U.S. cities without articles. Googling for obscure towns that I've found during my work (digitizing old data) led me to that page often. And I said: "Hmmm. I smell a project." I've added a few too--including Nimrod. I want to get a copy of the Register-Guard article about it from the library before I tackle that one. I started knocking off the As from the list, I had big plans to do a couple a day, but I get sidetracked... Talk to you later. Katr67 16:53, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

re:Nimrod Cool! I will just *have* to go to the library today. Not to mention feel compelled to write articles on Finn Rock, Vida, McKenzie Bridge, Rainbow, Blue River... Katr67 21:18, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I grew up in Eugene. I know all the names of the obscure little towns on the other end of 126 on the way to Florence too. Not too sure Cushman and Tiernan need articles though. At least Finn Rock has Barry Lopez. I think I've heard of that band--too cool. I'll have to check them out one of these days. Katr67 21:57, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No More

I will no longer be vandalizing Wikipedia or its userpages. I have being doing so for months, mostly because seeing my vandalism or that of others was funny as hell ("User X got swallowed by a Wale" is hilarious, come on) and to punish admins who I felt . My non constructive edits were done out of boredom, especially those containing racial slurs. (I am not racist, in fact I am racially mixed myself)

I started editing on Wikipedia (specifically the U of L page) mainly out of a 'cold war' that developed betw myself & U of L's marketing director, which escalated after I was featured in the Herald Leader critising his marketing of U of L [10]. I wanted to show President Ramsey how to market the "New U of L" and Wikipedia was my penpad to this end.

My vandalism started after a edit conflict over the Courier Journal's sports and editorial coverage, where my (what I felt were) legitment edits on the page for C-J critism were removed and I was blasted. After another C-J my account was blocked. [11]

Prior to this I had many good edits on KY related pages, which I am proud of. I feel that my work here is now complete and I will only edit in exiting new facts I find out or breaking news. The Louisville Vandal/Unemployed, living in basement/Brando03/many others 4.225.119.171 22:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] uncle and nephew :)

hi,

i just realized that there are two arachnologists called P.-Cambridge: Octavius Pickard-Cambridge (born 1828), and Frederick Octavius Pickard-Cambridge, his nephew (born 1860). I (and i guess you too) linked everything to the uncle, so via 'what links here' i'm currently relinking old Fred's taxa. Just so you know :) --Sarefo 21:17, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ready to move

I added something to Poisonous spiders to get it ready to move. To avoid a plural in the title, how about Spider envenomation with appropriate redirects (the way it was before somebody changed the title). Have a look. P0M 03:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Hm, spider envenomation sounds a bit awkward. What happened to Spider bites? You could also use the singular of this. Hey you two, check out this posting :) --Sarefo 16:49, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I like "spider bites," but how long will it be before somebody insists on the "no plurals" rule? I suppose if that happens we could just pipe "spider bites" to "spider bite". Is there an automated way of remaking all the links to this article? Thanks. P0M 17:54, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Phylicia Rashad pregnant with triplets?????

When did she announce she was expecting triplets???? Google News and Yahoo News did not show any such thing - and they are always up-to-date! Where did it say she was having triplets, let alone the fact that she is pregnant???????

[edit] Eugene

Hey, thanks for working on that pesky opening paragraph, but...you put "recently" back in that sentence! I took it out, since "recently" doesn't really belong in an encyclopedia article that is supposed to stand the test of time. I think my adding "2004" implies that the change was recent. Please reconsider! Katr67 21:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nimrod, Oregon

The local library doesn't have the R-G on microfilm, so I can't get my hands on that Nimrod article, but I've got my mom in Eugene on the job. Katr67 21:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monitor, Oregon

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm completely burned out from sorting out Clackamas County, Oregon, but I'll get to Monitor eventually. I've got the goods on Nimrod too. But I'll be away from the computer most of the weekend. (Hooray!) Katr67 05:42, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Final state highway naming conventions debate

EngineerScotty, your participation is welcome in the Wikipedia:State route naming conventions poll. Please give your input as to the process by 23:59 UTC on August 8.

Regards, Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:18, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ben Saylor

I actually think db-nocontext was better, but no matter, it will be deleted anyways. (You overwrote my sd). St.isaac 07:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Carissa update

I saw a news story on channel 6 last night regarding some new developments in the stern removal plans, so I researched a bit and expanded the "future plans" section. I think I included all the relevant points from the article I cited. Take a look at the flow and organization when you get a chance. Also, I noticed the picture of the stern we've got in the article is not a very good one (it's pretty blurry); have you seen any better free-use images out there? I looked around the government websites and didn't see any. Great job improving the prose, BTW. -Big Smooth 16:51, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

I see you're already on it! You're too quick! :P -Big Smooth 16:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Yes. I really believe it is of featured quality now. -Big Smooth 21:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I think I'm done for the day. Phew! Nice collaborating with you, I'm filled with Wiki-pride in the article! -Big Smooth 22:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit conflict

Hey, I was trying to speedy that redirect! BigNate37(T) 00:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Port of Coos Bay

Arrrr! and Avast! and all that. I'm supposed to working--stop making wiki work for me! I was hoping someone else would write the article (I mentioned it on the project page). :P OK, must...close...browser...window...until...lunch. Katr67 18:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A Barnstar for you!

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
This Barnstar is awarded to EngineerScotty in recognition of his outstanding work on the Oregon wine article. In a matter of a few days he has crafted what I consider an excellent example of a regional wine article. Not bad at all for a self proclaimed beer-guy ;)

Again, great job! Agne 00:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] spider citations

Everything you wrote is fine with me. If I were working from an on-campus location then some of the for-pay resources might be open to me. Some of the anecdotal reports on Poecilotheria bites make them seem really dangerous, but I wonder how often these people actually make it into the medical literature. Some on-line sites that sell tarantulas don't distinguish between the most docile trantulas and the ones that lurk behind something and bite the keeper when s/he reaches in to change a water container, but the sites that do all seem to regard this genus as having venom that is well beyond the ordinary. Some of them are particularly visually appealing so I would imagine that an unknowing person might buy one on-line or in a pet store without knowing that they should not be handled. There ought to be some responsible way to alert readers in such cases even if we haven't found an M.D. who has published on the subject somewhere. Back to work in the real world. P0M 00:26, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highways and Oregon Gov't

Hi Scotty, I tagged the highway rant POV 'cos that user usually does good work and thought I'd give him a chance, but you're probably right to just remove it.

Thanks for adding links to the Oregon Gov't article. Sure, the lottery is an agency. It's listed in the A-Z list of agencies. If you get bored there is a lot to choose from there. :) Katr67 16:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deir Yassin

You put up a tag, but did not clarified at the talk page why. Could you please do that? -- Kim van der Linde at venus 02:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Your action is a good reminder for me to stay away. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 05:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anti-Americanism in various countries

I've added some points following your comments last month on the above page. I agree, the article should be deleted. Not only is it largely original research, the whole concept is flawed (see my comments earlier on the page concerning Cuba). --Zleitzen 04:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tendentious

Let me ask you something, Engineer Scotty. What brought your attention to the "Tendentious 'guideline'" ? I don't yet actually understand what is being addressed because while you have provided links to individual whom might have been handled a little bit more quickly by a slightly different approach, or a slightly differently worded present guideline, I don't understand exactly what is being attempted here. I am convinced that "tendentions" isn't the right word to use. I am convinced that "tendentious" editors are actually valuable to, sought by and their editing behaviour monitored by existing policy and guideline. Terryeo 20:42, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for a civil and fairly through response on my page. We must confine ourselves to the english language and to words whose definitions, when looked up in common dictionarys, have meaning to their content. We simply can not develop a special language which is used as policy and guideline. It would separate us from our editor base, from our read base and from the goal of Wikipedia. We can of course, amongst editors, use any language that communicates. Other things that would separate us from the people we work to communicate with is to "snob" in some way, such as "we editors know what we mean and you don't". Terryeo 21:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I suggest "Disruptive Editors (moderate handling)" as a title at that talk page. Terryeo 22:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I live down the coast from you. You didn't start the tendentious project. Mangoe won't say why he / she started the project. I have told everyone that the word is being misused. No one is willing to understand the potential for a clique of Wikipedians to develop a special use language. Your response to me mentions NPOV (narrow meaning of NPOV). While that is true, there is no single english word used within it that can not be found in a common dictionary, and thence, the policy understood. The word you want at the project is "disruptive" because tendenacity, by itself, is not an offence. Use the word on talk pages, use the word while communicating about other editors but the word should not be used to define reasons for blocking users. Terryeo 13:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for an update on my user discussion page, Scotty :) Terryeo 20:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
User:Terryeo seems to have looked up "tendentious" and decided to become it. Mangoe 16:26, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
I hope you meant that as a joke, Mangoe. You still haven't replied to what I've asked for which is, "what prompted you to initiate the project?" Terryeo 20:55, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Down in flames

Our proposal seems to have been co-opted by, um, well, a clutch of tendentious editors. I'm just about ready to go back and try to get the move undone, but frankly I don't have much hope for it. Mangoe 22:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Well, what were you all attempting to create? If you had some other idea in mind than disruption, why didn't you spell it out clearly? You saw that a number of editors feel there is a need for something more responsive, faster, than Rf Arbitrations. What were you meaning to accomplish that isn't being accomplished? I thought I asked that already, I thought I understood what you were trying to do. Terryeo 06:52, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Carissa

Was browsing through Oregon; Wikipedia is a good timekiller that way.

Found the New Carissa article, and, remembering it from the news, started to read.

Noted that bronze star in the upper right hand corner.

Congratulations on bagging a bronze star! Williamborg (Bill) 23:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy

Hi. You contributed to the discussion at Wikipedia:Protecting children's privacy. If you have the time and interest, I'm asking contributors to past a brief summary of their position on the proposal here, thanks. Herostratus 20:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikisyntax

Thanks. One would have thought that I would be able to link to a Wikipedia page by now... Jkelly 17:19, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Tendentious" to "disruptive"

My initial reaction was simply to what looked like user:Terryeo and (perhaps) a group of co-conspirators riding in and co-opting the article; it seemed to me that such a difficult to reverse change needed some consensus.

Other than that, I continue to look at this from the "expert retention/rebellion" perspective, and it seems to me that we've retreated to a position which the real experts are going to look at and say "well, you're promising to put us through what we've been complaining about up to now, so what is the improvement?" If indeed, they are still even looking. RIght now I get the sense that they may have already thrown in the towel.

It also seems to me that in the shift from "tendentious" to "disruptive" we've blown the mission element again. They have changed this from a policy on content to a policy on behavior, which means that it can be turned against those who disrupt Wikipedia by insisting that it be correct. Mangoe 19:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I was always a little unclear exactly what the main mission element was, though I did ask several times. To be upfront and straightforward and to keep the air cool, crisp and clean, driven from the lofty mountains of knowledge in the far distance, there is no and has been no conspiracy which I have been any part of on Wikipedia. Terryeo 00:36, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for checking this out: User talk:Evilsai . I noted it on the Administrators' noticeboard‎ and User talk:Ta bu shi da yu, but it looks like you got to it before any admin. Well done! -huntersquid 20:28, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Disruptive Editing on Scientific Revolution

I've initiated the disruptive editing process to try to bring the editing of User:Logicus on Scientific Revolution under control so we can get on with writing an encyclopedia. Since you contributed a lot to the Disruptive editing guidelines could you look at where we stand in the process so far. By my reckoning we're somewhere between phase 3 and 4, but I'd appreciate your assistance in bringing this to a speedy closure.

There is already a comment on the talk page from User:Ragesoss, A Yale grad student who started the History of Science Wiki Project.

Thanks --SteveMcCluskey 01:16, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks Scott

Hey Scotty, thank you for organising the AfD of those articles. I was personally exhausted by it all and so I really appreciated you doing it. Cheers, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 03:14, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bernard Haisch

Presumably you saw the announcement of Bernard Haisch. I sent a mail to discussion list about this, and it was rejected, saying there will be no discussion of Haisch's role on that list. Interesting. Dbuckner 17:20, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

RE your message, me too. Note however that the individual you mention is simply contributing. There's no evidence anything is being taken seriously. There are also a few other 'characters' hanging about. One of them even emailed to say he had completely changed since the last time. Dbuckner 17:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Oregon Routes

Please do NOT move highway articles unless you have signed up at WP:SRNC to do so, and until the bots have been notified. (In other words, leave it to me. *wink*) As you probably know, editing highway articles on Wikipedia is a difficult science, and I'd hate to see you blocked for being helpful.

That being said, do not revert moves you have already made. -- NORTH talk 16:38, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Warning?

It's quite harsh that you're warning me, we haven't gotten to really know each other and its not like i've done anything wrong? Perhaps we could share a quiet drink together before you use such harsh language against me, O-Cap-i-tain?--88.105.110.173 07:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "circumcision objection not mainstream"

you haven't tried bringing the subject up with people have you? try it sometime - be prepaired to be insulted as severely as if you had advocated female genital mutilation (infact.. worse much of the time). It's ludacris who hypocritical we americans are - we protect our daughters from genital mutilation, and insist that other countries to do, while mutilating our sons en masse and dismissing it (very inaccurately) as "just a little snip", "just a flap of skin" (yeah.. that is both standard and mucosal skin and contains 66% of the nerves of the penis.. but nevermind that, you don't need them the other 33% will do it... except those other 33% are desensatized by callousing due to the glans being exposed!).

As you can tell... it's a sore subject with me Lordkazan 21:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

 :D You are a f***ing lucky b*******! :D I live in iowa, and was born here - highest circ rate in the entire country (and possibly the world!) during the 80s when I was born - something kike 99.5%! All because of a stupid practice started to "cure" masturbation (the root of all evils).
Well.. have a nice one! Lordkazan 21:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey Scott

Can you believe that I found you here today completely by accident? And I just noticed your edits on woofing. Far out - I read that article the other week.

While I'm here, I might as well canvass you for a vote :)

Cheers, -- Earle Martin [t/c]

 21:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help mee

Could you help me move the two tables for U of Louisville final fours and bowl appearances side by side? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Louisville#Athletics) -- Louie

The user using IP addresses beginning with 4.224, 4.225, and 136.165.88 are suspected to be associated with this vandal (a/k/a Brando03, Brandon03, The Br03, and other sock puppets): Wikipedia:Long_term_abuse#Unemployed.2C_living_in_basement.2C_aka_Brando.28n.2903.2C_aka_Louisville_Vandal. due to vandalization of the same user pages previously vandalized. --Chris24 00:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your note

I'm not sure I understand. We already have V and NOR. We can't have a replacement for RS that sets itself up in opposition to V and NOR. We don't actually need RS or a replacement for it.

My idea was only to streamline V and NOR into one page, and perhaps to introduce an exception for pop culture. I'm not willing to support an attempt to undermine the policies, which is what this is turning into. SlimVirgin (talk) 04:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

But ATT is a re-statement of NOR and V. We don't need a re-statement of them and then call it RS. What would be the point? SlimVirgin (talk) 05:39, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ghost towns vs. Defunct cities

We're discussing the distinction over here if you'd like to add your opinion. Thanks! Katr67 18:25, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

No problem - and thanks very much for your help with WP:DE. Now that I'm an admin it carries a little more weight when I suggest this to resolve disputes. Warmly, Durova 20:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject query

Hi there, I am doing some clean up on the list of proposed WikiProjects. I noticed that WikiProject Programming Language Theory has been listed for more than 60 days. Unless you object, I would like to remove it from the list since it is unlikely to receive further feedback. Thanks! --Aguerriero (talk) 20:14, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Howdy from the East Side of Portland

Hi, I emailed you about a WikiMeetup here in Portland, but haven't received an answer from you. Are you still thinking it over? -- llywrch 02:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lost in Jimbo's Talk Page

Barnstar of Humour3.png The Barnstar of Good Humor
On behalf of the Esperanza Barnstar Brigade, I hereby present you this award for being a particularly light-spirited Wikipedian. Rosa 23:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)


LOL, that little Gilligan's Island/Lost song was hilarious, have a star... Rosa 23:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baboon Spiders => Harpactirinae

Hello, this is not in any areas of my expertise, but the fact that Baboon spider redirects towards Harpactirinae seems rather strange in light of the first sentence of that article- "Harpactirinae is a subfamily of baboon spiders...". This seems to indicate that either A) "baboon spider" refers to a larger group of spiders of which Harpactirinae is just a part, or B) That Harpactirinae is one of many families of spiders that are referred to as Baboon spiders which is actually an imprecise, unscientific, and poorly defined term rather like daddy long legs or potato bug. In any case it would seem that it a instead of redirecting we should either have an entirely seperate article if "A" is the case or just a disambiguation page if "B" is closer to the truth. What are your thoughts?- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 20:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Captain Bogg and Salty

My, what a name LOL Thanks for the link ARRRRRR! Rosa 23:47, 28 October 2006 (UTC

[edit] Eat a Lime!

Scurvy is a riot! (The song, I guess the disease isn't that funny ;) Who would have guessed there were so many pirate nuts out there? lol... Actually, the pirate lingo at my page has to do with the ancient rivalry at Wikipedia amongst wikipirates and wikininjas (damn the shuriken throwers!) Actually, ninjas usually win the battles as pirates are generally too drunk to continue the fight, but that's not the point! I'm a bit of a fan of a Spanish group called Mago de Oz, which uses the pirate theme in their songs and wardrobe a lot. You may listen to a sample of one of their songs here: http://rapidshare.com/files/1108624/Mago_de_Oz-La_costa_del_silencio.mp3.html Thanks again for the links :)Rosa 05:41, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] La Pine, Oregon

Thanks for the incorporation update. But you did mean 2006, right? Katr67 19:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] aneutronic fusion

You may not be aware of this, but aneutronic fusion has been studied in the laboratory for decades. The fact that it produces the bulk of its energy in charged particles is validated by thousands of experiments. To portray, as you do in your new edits, known, undisputed physics as the opinions of a minority is a gross distortion. I don't want to get into a revert war again, but I think you should do a bit of research before piling in on this. I stronglgy suggest you rever the changes yourslef until you look a bit at the field. I can provide review articles if you want. Elerner 00:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. Should at the least start a productive dialog. Fred Bauder 01:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ATT/FAQ

Hello Scotty, Can you take a look at the WP:ATT/FAQ? It refers to A New York Times account of a George Bush speech is a secondary source. This is creating the false impression that all newspaper articles are secondary sources, when actually, a large amount of newspapers accounts are primary sources. Wording needs to be found to make that distinction clearer, for example: A New York Times article that analyses a George Bush speech is a secondary source. See what WP:RS had to say about newspapers: More recently, primary sources have been put online, such as the complete run of the London Times, the New York Times and other major newspapers. Some of these are proprietary and must be accessed through libraries; others such as “Making of America”, publishing of 19th century magazines, are open to the public.; See also what our own secondary sources say: An example of a secondary source would be the biographyo f a historical figure which constructed a coherent narrative out of avariety of primary source documents, such as letters, diaries,newspaper accounts, and official records.. Clearly the FAQ is misleading editors in asserting that newspaper accounts are secondary sources, and this is creating problems.

As you have been the major force behind that FAQ, your comments on how to fix that will be most welcome. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 15:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Civil War> Score Graphs

You should convert the games in the UO/ OSU Civil War into score graphs like I've done on Louisville Cardinals Bbrando03

[edit] In recognition

Purple Star.png The Purple Star
Given in recognition for having one of the most vandalised user pages. Timrollpickering 03:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Hey, thanks for your recent picture additions of Portland Aerial Tram. Would you please consider uploading your images to Wikimedia Commons so they can be used throughout all Wikimedia projects? Thanks, Cacophony 23:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Wine Discussion (by Agne) : Input Requested

Dear Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wine member:

There is an ongoing discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wine#Vintage_Infos_.28part_II.29 that has become

Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a wine guide

Please add your comments/input to the talk page Wikipedia_talk:Wikipedia_is_not_a_wine_guide.

Thanks! Regards -- Steve.Moulding 19:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Oregon wineries and vineyards

Hey EngineerScotty, lately there has been an anon, ostensibly connected with a certain winery, who keeps adding blurbs about the awards the winery has won in the "notes" section. Now, the way you set up the table, I assumed that "notes" was for additional location and planting information, and I wanted to add a note to that effect, but I first I wanted to check in with you and see if that was indeed your intention. I would write the anon and tell him/her that that sort of info would be better put in an article about the winery, but that creates a COI situation, doesn't it? Any thoughts? Thanks! And dig that purple barnstar! Katr67 02:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Hope you're feeling better. Thanks for the reply. I went ahead and left a bunch of messages on the anons' pages, including the suggestion they write a NPOV article, and haven't heard a peep out of them since. Alas, one of the many users I've encountered who don't bother to contribute anything more that a couple weblinks. If they get uppity again, I'll sick the wine project on them. :) Katr67 18:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Roads Newsletter Issue #1

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Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 20:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] unemployed vandal

Hi, the unemployed vandal has been causing a lot of havoc. I found out his name, homepage, and email, in addition to his school. I would like to help wikipedia pursue legal action against this individual.

 Aliases: Unemployed, living in a basement, louisville vandal, jbm, Brando03 Name: Jeffrey B. Morris Email: jbmorr03@louisville.edu Website: http://louisville.edu/~jbmorr03/

IP Addresses:

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Let me know what I can do to help you stop him for good. Regards, Perl 02:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Perl posting address/ phone

Why has User:Perl and his doupal ganger account User:alexplank not been punished for posting personal information? I haven't had that address & phone since 2002, so I hope whoever lives there and/or has that phone number now isn't being harrased.

He also posted this information on his website & encouraged his members to "retaliate" One of his members also made death threats against me, but he locked the forum once I asked for access to it.

His website has had several members who have committed murder rampages, so I take these threats very seriously. http://www.guardian.co.uk/usguns/Story/0,,1642081,00.html

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=25056&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.225.114.75 (talk) 17:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Wine Project Newsletter

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Issue I - February 18, 2007

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[edit] theraphosidae species list

hi scotty,

i'm currently updating the spider species list to be up to date with the current revision of the world spider catalog. these files are generated automatically, which saves me about a week or more of hard work. the thing is, i cannot update the List of Theraphosidae species this way. i therefore propose that we create a List of Theraphosidae genera, and leave the species list in its generated way? this way, we lose a handful of common names for species, but they can be found elsewhere. i'll just do that for now, leave me a message if you think this is not a good idea.

- cheers :) Sarefo 10:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Roads Newsletter Issue #2

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Volume 1, Issue 2 24 February 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features:
Project News Notability of state highways is upheld
Deletion debates Kansas Turnpike is now a Good Article
Featured subproject U.S. Roads IRC channel created
Featured member Infoboxes and Navigation subproject started
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Apologies for the late delivery. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template dispute title

Hello Mr. Engineer ! I saw you were the one in charge of the Template:Disputed title, I wondered if you could teach me how to put it on a page. Cheers! Tazmaniacs 17:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Never mind, I found out tinkering a bit! Tazmaniacs

[edit] Wine Project Newsletter

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Issue II - March 4th, 2007

In this edition:

  • News & Notes Updates on Wine article assessment ; Wine Portal, Barnstars; and Notability of Masters of Wine
  • Wine Sub-projects- Ongoing need for Wine labels with tips on removal. Project drive to get Wine article up to GA.

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[edit] Thanks for the note

I believe somewhere there is a Law of Wikipedia which states that he who appeals to Jimbo is likely in the wrong or something to that effect. I'm going to refrain from responding to Ian in such a capacity unless asked to do so explicitly by a third party. --ScienceApologist 19:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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Volume 1, Issue 3 10 March 2007 About the Newsletter
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[edit] Active user verification

Hello, EngineerScotty. Due to the high number of inactive users at WP:USRD, we are asking that you verify that you are still an active contributor of the project. To do so, please add an asterisk (*) after your name on Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Newsletter/List. Users without one by the next issue in 2 weeks will be removed off the list and off the respective road projects as well. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 22:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Experts and Crackpots

I saw that you apparently drafted Wikipedia:Expert Retention/Crackpot users. I'm an expert editor (Classics professor) who's not threatening to need retention but who is up against quite a crackpot user, and I wonder if you may be able to give me some advice. It concerns a user who, among other things, believes that Petrarch wrote the New Testament in the 14th century, and that he can discover "very special meanings" by doing things like counting up numbers of letters in the English translations (!) of old Latin books. (For the tip of the iceberg, see here with links.) The thing that makes it hard is that he has learned not to add original research to articles. Instead, he tries to uncover factually true numbers (that are numerologically interesting to him), coincidences, etc., and then get these into articles. Because there aren't exactly a lot of people monitoring every article on late antiquity, etc., around here, much of his work, almost all of it ill-informed and poorly expressed, sticks around. I stumbled on De Viris Illustribus (Jerome)‎ a week ago, and it's threatening to take over all of my Wikitime. At WP:EXR, it sounds like many or all of the useful remedies are more proposals than reality. Is there a best way to deal with such a user, short of my normal editorial activity (getting into it with a crackpot on the talk page has made me question the value of the talk page, though!) and trying to rope in other knowledgeable editors? I'd appreciate any brainstorm you may have, or a reference to a person (or notice board) better able to field my question. Wareh 00:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wine Project Newsletter

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Issue III - March 18, 2007

In this edition:

  • News & Notes New look for Wine Project Page; Wine Article assessment; Operation Stub-killer; New Template for Australian Wineries; New wine stub categories proposed.

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[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 4

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Volume 1, Issue 4 24 March 2007 About the Newsletter
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[edit] Wine Project Newsletter

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Issue IV - April 1st, 2007

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  • News & Notes New Grape Infobox; Standard Grape article format; Wine photos; New wine stub categories created; Wine related deletion notices; and more
  • Sub Projects Updates on Operation Stub Killer

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[edit] Wine Project Newsletter

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Issue V - April 15, 2007

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  • News & Notes New wine product members, Wine GAs and DYKs and more
  • Sub Projects Updates on Operation Stub Killer
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[edit] {{TBD}}

Hi Scotty,

May I take ownership of {{TBD}}, a template you created on 22 August 2006?

It is currently being unused. (See "What links here".)

I would change it to be a inline template that a user could use instead of "xxx" or similar in place of dates or numbers.

The following is the code I propose:

[[TBD|<span title="a number or date needs to be added">TBD</span>]]<includeonly>{{{category|[[Category:Wikipedia articles containing placeholders]]}}}</includeonly>

Here is how it would look: TBD

--Kevinkor2 02:23, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead! I've been off Wikipedia for a few days, so I didn't notice your note until this afternoon. But by all means, improve the template as you like!
--EngineerScotty 22:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, Scotty. --Kevinkor2 03:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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Volume 1, Issue 6 21 April 2007 About the Newsletter
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[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 7

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Volume 1, Issue 7 5 May 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features: State updates
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Deletion debates MacArthur Maze Fire Illinois
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[edit] Vortex I

Hi, I've nominated an article you worked on, Vortex I, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of Wikipedia:Did you know. You can see the hook for the article at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on May 17 where you can improve it if you see fit. Thanks, Katr67 01:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Glad you like it. Thanks for writing the article--it's a really interesting piece of Oregon history, and despite being rather countercultural myself, I hadn't heard of it until I came to Wikipedia. I see from a quick google that the Rainbow Family got its start at the Vortex--that's pretty significant too. It will be good to see you around the project more--as you can see we have some spunky new members and lots of stuff going on. Take care, Katr67 18:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 8

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Volume 1, Issue 8 19 May 2007 About the Newsletter
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Deletion debates Two debates at USRD Illinois
Featured member A new GA Oklahoma
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[edit] Vortex I

Updated DYK query On 22 May 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vortex I, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Aquarius • talk 18:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 9

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Volume 1, Issue 9 9 June 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features: State updates
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Deletion debates Portal debate Maryland
Featured member Three new GAs
From the editors Exit list debates
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[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 10

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Volume 1, Issue 10 7 July 2007 About the Newsletter
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[edit] Neil Goldschmidt

Hi, I saw your edits to the Goldschmidt article today. I have been pretty inactive due to my low tolerance for some of the stuff that goes on here, so I'm rarely even on anymore.

I'm glad you saw the stuff on the talk page (which as you had noticed I was invovled). I believe Pete had said that the article is lacking quite a bit about Goldschmidt's various elections to different positions and that most of the article revolves around this scandle. He has a point in that it is possible for people to go overkill on one segment of something that has happened regarding a person and yet leave out other things such as how he even was elected to the various positions. Anyway, I'm glad you pulled out the category as it really represents someone convicted of the crime. While he did admit to it, unfortuantely the statue of limitations had long since passed. I don't think admitting to a crime equals a defacto conviction, which is what some have tried to argue (especially on the talk page).

Like I said, I'm never around anymore and have gotten pretty apethetic about Wikipedia given the mass amounts of conflict on it. Just thought I'd share those things with you. Davidpdx 21:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An important letter

Dear roads editor,

You may have noticed some changes at WP:USRD lately. Some of them, like the cleanup templates and the stub templates, have been astounding and great. Unfortunately, others have been disturbing.

This has become evidenced by the departure of a few prominent editors at USRD, a few RFC's, and much fighting among USRD editors.

After the second RFC, many of us found the opportunity to take a step away from Wikipedia for a while--as a self-imposed wikibreak, or possibly on vacation.

The result of such introspection was that many of us were placing ourselves in a "walled garden" and on a self-imposed pedestal of authority over the roads department. Also, we were being hostile to a few users who were not agreeing with us.

In fact, IRC has been the main incarnation of this "walled garden." Decisions have been made there to conduct grudges and prejudices against a few valued USRD users with poor justification.

For this, we have come to apologize. We have come to ask your forgiveness.

In addition to this, we hope to work as one USRD team from now on and to encourage cooperation instead of the promotion of interests.

All users are welcome to collaborate on IRC, the newsletter, or anywhere else at USRD.

In the future, please feel free to approach us about any issues you may have.

Regards,

Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 17:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPOR Collaboration of the Week

Greetings WPOR member, we are starting a weekly collaboration project where we will announce two articles that are currently stubs that we hope to work together to improve. No pressure to help, but if you would like to, just stop by one of the articles and see if you can find information to expand the article with, copy edit what is there, help with formatting, or add some images. This week’s articles are: Alis volat propriis and Fusitriton oregonensis. Aboutmovies 22:23, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

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Volume 1, Issue 11 18 August 2007 About the Newsletter
Departments: Features: State and national updates
Project news Cleanup system revamped Assessment
Deletion debates Stubs renamed New York
Featured member IRC channel goes global
From the editors Minnesota bridge collapses
One year after SRNC: A reflection
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[edit] WPOR Collaboration of the Week

Greetings WikiProject Oregon employees. Well a big thanks to all those who helped improve Alis volat propriis and Fusitriton oregonensis last week. This week’s Stub improvement are: Government of Oregon which should be easy, and Miss Oregon. Again, no pressure to help with the collaboration, choose one, both, or neither. Also, feel free to opt out of the notifications at the new page dedicated to collaborative efforts at WPOR (newsletter is in R&D). Aboutmovies 18:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPOR Collaboration of the Week

Hello again WikiProject Oregon team members, its time for the next Collaboration of the Week. First a shout out to Sprkee for putting together some templates for this project. Now, in honor of Labor Day weekend and the outdoor nature of the activities that often accompany the three-day weekend, this week’s item is to de-redlink as many parks from the List of Oregon State Parks. Some may even by going to one of these places, a great opportunity to take a picture or two for an article. As always, participation is not required, though it is appreciated. And if you are caught, we will disavow any knowledge of your existence. Since we don’t want to waste any effort through duplication, please make a note on the talk page of which park article you are going to start. Good day! Aboutmovies 19:32, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wine Project Newsletter

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Issue VI - May 6th, 2007

In this edition:

  • News & Notes New wine members, maps wanted, fame at last
  • Sub Projects Updates on Operation Stub Killer
  • Wiki-Winos Why port is poison and a special night in Chinon - this issue features your stand-in editor, FlagSteward.
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Apologies to everyone for this notification being sent out so late, events in real life prevented me from distributing it at the time, and the Wine Project's had a bit of a lull during the Northern Hemsiphere summer. But as the nights draw in, activity should pick up again, and hopefully the next Newsletter will arrive a little more quickly....

The next few weeks are the perfect time to take photos of grapes in the Northern Hemisphere - get your cameras out! FlagSteward 15:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] September WPOR Collaboration of the Week

First off, great job to all WikiProject Oregon folks for last week’s List of Oregon State Parks work. We pounded out six new state park articles: Sarah Helmick, Bald Peak, Bob Straub, Sumpter Valley Gold Dredge, Tumalo, and Peter Skene Ogden. Plus numerous other edits to improve the existing articles. As a reward, we are introducing the COTW award {{WPOR COTW award}}, and this time it goes to User:Woodstein52 for starting three of the articles.

On to this week. We are back to the usual two Top importance Stubs: Sunstone and Oregon, My Oregon. Both are stub pluses, so it shouldn’t take much to upgrade them both. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Good day! Aboutmovies 22:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] WPOR Collaboration: 09172007

All righty WPOR ladies and gentleman, great job last week with our state song and gemstone. I have bumped them up to Start class. I haven’t looked at the contributions, so the COTW award will be later. This week’s articles are Darlene Hooley, by special request, and another Top stub, our very own state rock, the Thunderegg. Yes, apparently we have a state rock and state gemstone. No word on whether there is a state stone too. Hooley basically needs some sources to make it to the next level. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. In the words of Beaver Joe, whoop! Aboutmovies 18:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CfD nomination of Category:Pirate rock

I have nominated Category:Pirate rock (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Rocket000 22:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Inactivity check and news report

Hello, EngineerScotty. We had a few urgent matters to communicate to you:

  1. Please update your information at Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads/Participants, our new centralized participant list. Those who have not done so by October 20th will be removed.
  2. There are important discussions taking place at WT:USRD relating to whether WP:USRD, WP:HWY, or the state projects should hold the "power" in the roads projects.

Regards, Rschen7754 (T C) 23:17, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fall WPOR COTW

Welcome to autmun and the weekly COTW news. Great job to those who helped out with last week’s articles: Darlene Hooley & Thunderegg. Both made great improvements. This week, something a little different. With fall upon us, the photo ops are going to be harder to get, so we have a photo request fulfillment drive. Take a look at the requested pictures for Oregon category or the graphics subproject for what’s needed. Then go take a picture, or search online for a free picture to upload (US gov sites are great and there are links available from the above links). If you fill a request, be sure to remove the request template from the article’s talk page. Our other item is another red link removal drive, this time on the flagship Oregon article. Like the state parks red link drive, try to coordinate on the talk page. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 01:25, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Week 1 October WP:ORE COTW

I know everyone has been waiting anxiously for this week’s COTW, so here they are: Barlow Road and Columbia River Plateau. Both are almost Start class, just some formatting and referencing, plus a little expansion and they will be there!

As to last week, it is difficult to track the items we were working on, but I know some pictures were added and at least three red links were removed from Oregon, so thank you to all those who participated. The award winner will be GoodDamon for their creation of the Oregon Forest Resources Institute article. We have now worked through all the Top class stubs and are into the High class stubs. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Happy editing, and remember if you see a downed power line, don’t pick it up. Aboutmovies 20:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPOR CoTW: Don Schollander & Conde McCullough

Greetings WPOR world. Last week was great with the Barlow Road seeing lots of improvement, maybe even B class. Columbia River Plateau also saw some improvement, maybe enough to bump it to Start. On with the countdown, another two Stubs in the High category, both happen to be people: Don Schollander a multi-gold medalist; and then world-renowned bridge architect and all-around swell guy Conde McCullough. Schollander needs sources more than anything, and McCullough needs more of a bio, plus maybe a nice chart for the bridges with type/year/location/length. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. This week’s safety tip, stranger=danger. Aboutmovies 18:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] template

A template you have created or significantly contributed to, {{userlinks-tt}}, is the subject of a discussion I have started on the village pump. —Random832 18:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rail transport in Oregon

Hi,

You slapped a {{fact}} tag on the aforementioned article in the middle of a paragraph. The reference cited at the end of the paragraph, for ODOT's Transportation Plan Technical Appendix, is a reference for the information given. --EngineerScotty 04:24, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Excellent, EngineerScotty. This means the new hook for this article I've posted at Template talk:Did you know#Articles created on October 5 is valid. Anyway, EncMstr has replaced my {{fact}} with a ref there. Your article may appear on the MainPage soon. --PFHLai 06:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 12 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rail transport in Oregon, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Elkman (Elkspeak) 04:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Great job!

Hey, thanks for taking care of two major gaps in the Oregon wikipresence… Francke and Ivancie. Well done! -Pete 21:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiOregon COTW

Greetings once again WikiProject Oregon members. Thank you to those who help out with improving Conde McCullough and Don Schollander last week. This week is a Stub break, with a Ref improvement drive for Oregon and a request for work on Portland Police Bureau. For the ref improvement, this means sourcing tagged statements and standardizing all existing citations, both of which are needed for GA and FA status. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 18:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

Updated DYK query On 17 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Michael Francke , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 talk 15:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know

Updated DYK query On 17 October 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Frank Ivancie, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3 talk 23:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 15

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Volume 1, Issue 15 • October 20, 2007 • About the Newsletter
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[edit] Collaboration of the Week

Howdy doody ya’ll WPOR poke, time for more COTW. Thanks for the work on Portland Police Bureau and improving the references at Oregon. This week we are back to Stubs with Eastern Oregon and Fort Vancouver National Historic Site. Both need just a little TLC to make it to Start. Again to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts click here. Aboutmovies 01:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fort Vancouver

Hiya, are you going to add more on the historic houses today? Because I was thinking of digging up some info on them, but if you're all over it, I'll hold off. I'll see about a stub on Mr. Barclay in any case. Thanks for finding the photos. I just cribbed some gubmint stuff today too. Latr, Katr67 23:14, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Rose Quarter, was selected for DYK!

Updated DYK query On October 29, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Rose Quarter, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 (talk) 01:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SPAM ala COTW

Ladies and Gentlemen its time for another episode of Collaboration of the Week. Last week’s show starring Fort Vancouver National Historic Site & Eastern Oregon received high ratings. This week’s show star two more stubs, Johnny Kitzmiller & John Wesley Davis. As always, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Don’t delay, act today! Aboutmovies 18:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Aboutmovies sent this COTW award to me, but I figured you deserved it more... Ipoellet 02:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Thumbs up.jpg The COTW award from WPOR.
Thanks for leading the way in last week's Collaboration of the Week!
For your work on Fort Vancouver National Historic Site. Aboutmovies 18:55, 29 October 2007 (UTC) and Ipoellet 02:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A new class of experts....

Hi there. I found the essay you seemed to have started, but I think your definition of an expert on Wikipedia was flawed because you emphasized the academic expert over the Wikipedian. I think that if we set the first standard for being accepted as an expert on Wikipedia to being an expert at Wikipedia, we'll gain a much larger consensus out of the community. Jimbo doesn't care how we do things, so long as we follow the 5 pillars.

I would like to see a committee of seasoned editors receive nominations for expert status. Before going into the previous idea for "expert contribution" tags in articles, I'm only envisioning something like a userbox (tagging articles smacks of ownership, anyhow). When a newbie first comes to Wikipedia, they read a lot. Eventually, some newbies begin editing, perhaps small at first, perhaps they go all out and learn the ropes the embarrassing way. After a while, a newbie has read numerous policy pages, knows about admins, vandals, Willy on Wheels, and everything else. This is a person who should be called an expert Wikipedian.

Once we have thousands of general experts identified and labeled, I expect specialized experts will gain promotions in their respective fields. Although I wonder how many fields we'll recognize....

Anyway, I've tried the village pump, and Wikidemo thinks my idea has potential, and I've been talking with Hoary on Wikipedia talk:Expert editors#A new essay/proposal about moving this idea forward. I'll eventually leave a note for KimvdLinde, Bhoeble, and the other original contributors. 75.111.26.137 08:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Now I've got a real account, and created a draft page. Maybe you'd like to see my changes? Maybe leave some comments? I'm running out of straws, but I'm not giving up on turning this horse into glue. ;) Can I be Frank? What? 06:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look. Does my addition sound too unorganized or disjointed? It doesn't seem to have the same tone/style of other, better, essays and project pages. I wasn't thinking of giving anybody extra privileges, other than the entailments of having status symbol. I'm willing to weather hostility and suspicion, especially the knee-jerk, reactionary kind. I understand the fear of a minority gaining "power" over the majority, but in the case I'm trying to make here, the majority will have the primary power, while the minority will have derivative power. I just think we need a community operated WikiProject to handle all the power brokering.
You look like a general expert editor to me, so I'd approve you for such a status, provided they put me on the Expert Editor Review Committee. Can I be Frank? What? 04:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New COTW

Hello again from WikiProject Oregon. A round of applause for the project in October when we added three GAs, one FA, plus 10 DYKs! Next, thanks to all those who participated in last week’s Collaboration of the Week, John Wesley Davis & Johnny Kitzmiller. This week we have the Cayuse War, and in honor of the home opener, the Portland Trail Blazers. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies 18:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

Hi. About a week and a half ago, you proposed to merge Officers Row into Fort Vancouver National Historic Site. The subsequent discussion seemed to reach a consensus among the handful who participated that the articles should not be merged. I'm inclined to remove the merge banners at this point - do you have an objection? Ipoellet 21:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Triple crown

I, Durova am pleased to bestow the triple crown upon EngineerScotty for outstanding article space contributions to Wikipedia. Thank you for all you do. DurovaCharge! 03:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

It's been a while since I'd run into you! Glad to see you're still with the project doing good things. Have you considered a bid for administratorship? If so, look me up. Cheers, DurovaCharge! 03:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPOR's newest COTW

Thank you to all those editors who helped improve Cayuse War and Portland Trail Blazers last week as part of the Collaboration of the Week. They are looking much better. This week, with the election season over, we’ll tackle a request for Oregon Ballot Measure 37 (2004), which should have plenty of WP:RS available to work with on improvement. Our other article is another Stub in the High category, our only Miss America, Katie Harman. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Legal disclaimer: WikiProject Oregon and its affiliates are not liable for any personal injuries acquired while editing on the COTW including but not limited to carpel tunnel syndrome, Wikistress, alcoholism, anxiety attacks, or extreme emotional distress. Aboutmovies 20:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 16

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[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query Did you know? was updated. On 18 November 2007, a fact from the article Herman Sarkowsky, which you recently nominated, was featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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[edit] Oregon COTW version 11.20

Welcome to the jungle folks. Thanks to those who helped out with Katie Harman and Oregon Ballot Measure 37 (2004) last week. This week, we have two high priority stubs, one of the two major hospitals in Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Health Center, and Oregon Department of Education. Enjoy your turkeys, or for some enjoy your tofurkeys. As always, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WPORE Civil War COTW

Hello again to WikiProject Oregon members, time for this week’s Collaboration of the Week. Thank you to those who helped out improving Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Health Center and Oregon Department of Education last week. This week, in honor of the annual Civil War, we have the University of Oregon Ducks and the Oregon State University Beavers. Or if you attended some other school, feel free to improve your alma mater’s article. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:57, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spiffier triple crown, new awards available

The standard triple crown.

Hi, I've been sprucing up the triple crown awards. Here's the new version of the standard triple crown you've already earned. Feel free to replace your old one with this if you like the new version better. I've also introduced two new triple crown awards for editors who've done a lot of triple crown work: the Napoleonic and Alexander the Great edition awards. If you're active in a WikiProject, check out the new offer for custom WikiProject triple crowns. I'll make those upon request if five or more editors qualify. See User:Durova/Triple crown winner's circle for more information. Thanks for your hard work, and cheers! DurovaCharge! 22:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Admin

Hi. I just wondered if you'd consider letting me nominate you for adminship, as I think you're experienced enough. Thanks. Epbr123 17:41, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA for WPORE COTW

Greetings boys and girls from the fine folks at The Wettest Place on Earth! A thank you to those who helped last week make some good improvements on the U of O and OSU OS articles. For this week, the next stub on the list is Fortune 1000 company Lithia Motors, Inc. way down south in Dixie, which only needs a little added to make it to Start. The other is a bit more of a challenge, but Linus Pauling I believe is our only Nobel Prize winning Oregonian, and a former FA. So hopefully we can get it back to FA, check the talk page’s article history template for comments. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies 20:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It glows in the dark

ORCapPioneerBarnstar.jpg WPOR Award: Sponsored in part by the Big Gold Dude.
You are hereby granted this shiny object for all your hard work at WikiProject Oregon!
For all your hard work with starting articles and getting some through GA the last few months! Aboutmovies 21:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Maison Joseph Drouhin

Hi, since you created this article, I wanted to check in with you about the merge proposal it's had since March. There hasn't been much input about it, but do you see any reason why the other two articles shouldn't be merged into this one? I'd like to do it in the next couple of days, and I'll keep the Oregon-related cats and such. Katr67 (talk) 23:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:WINE newsletter

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Issue VII - December 8th, 2007

In this edition:

  • Back in black...or rather wine stain burgundy Yes, the newsletter is back and we catch up with the some of the great work being done by Wine Project members like Kharker, VirginiaProp, BodegasAmbite and more!
  • Updates on Operation Stubkiller, GAs, and DYKs As well as advice and links for finding photos and illustrations for our wine articles
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[edit] Oregon COTW #25 (or so)

Hello again from the COTW of WikiProject Oregon. We thank ye who went forth through the rain and mud and helped out with last week’s articles Lithia Motors and Linus Pauling. Hopefully Linus can return to FA status early next year. This week we have the request of Oregon Ballot Measure 5 (1990) and High importance article Portland Rose Festival. Whatever work you can contribute would be greatly appreciated by our master. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here.[citation needed] Aboutmovies (talk) 07:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Holidays from WP:ORE

Hello again from the Collaboration of the Week for WikiProject Oregon. This week are two more stubs, the Oregon Garden and former Congressman Robert B. Duncan. Both are close to moving up to Start class, so only a little work is needed. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Volume 1, Issue 17

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[edit] WP:WINE newsletter

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Issue VIII - December 22nd, 2007

In this edition:

  • News & Notes - Could Zinfandel become the project's first Featured article? Great opportunities for wine related illustrations, a new 1855-Bordeaux template, Did you knows and MORE!
  • Wiki-Winos - User:Jmjanssen and the mysterious Woop Woop
  • Wine articles on the Web - Find out how our Port wine, Chardonnay, Retsina & other wine articles have been referenced on the web and what do outside folks think about the overall quality of our wine articles?
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[edit] Holiday COTW

Greetings to all the WikiProject Oregon crew. Happy holidays to those who celebrate holidays. Thanks to those who helped out with last week’s articles Oregon Garden and Robert B. Duncan. Due to the holidays and people likely to be spending less time on Wikipedia, the new Collaboration of the Week will run for two weeks (OK actually I’ll be out of the country, but same difference). The first item will be a general Reference Improvement Drive. So find an article, source an tagged sentence or bring all the citations up to WP:CITE standards. The other item is a Tagging Drive, looking for those random articles about Oregon that do not yet have a {{WikiProject Oregon}} tag on the talk page. In the past I’ve found the Category:People from Oregon and its sub cats fertile ground for the lost Oregon souls. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:52, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sunir Shah

Hello Engineer Scotty, remember me? I wrote the History of Wikis article that you reacted favorably to, and now I need your help. I wrote an article about Sunir Shah last fall, and someone has recently deleted it, by reactivating an old deletion process from 2006. Unfortunately I failed to look at my watchlist for a few weeks when this happened, and the deletion event is too old to show up on the watchlist (can I extend the time covered somehow?). Anyhow, I'd like to contest the procedure and try to reinstate the Sunir article, but I need help from someone who has better knowledge of the rules (and of the administrators). Does this issue interest you? - Redeyed Treefrog (talk) 23:59, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

User:Peteforsyth has seen the above and put a message on my talk page directing me to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunir Shah. I had already found this old deletion debate from 2006, but wanted to see who did the new deletion. The participants in the debate are listed as BigHaz, the wub, Kaustuv Chaudhuri and SJK. Not knowing who to address, I sent a protest to User talk:Kaustuv, but now I see that the decision was announced by Ezeu - and the new deletion may be the work of someone else entirely. A bit of Kafka here. - Redeyed Treefrog (talk) 01:14, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
Oops, sorry- here's the newer deletion debate. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunir Shah (2nd nomination) (FYI, the way I found these is by searching for Sunir Shah, and then when it didn't come up, I checked off "Wikipedia" and "Wikipedia talk" in the checkboxes at the bottom of the search page, and ran it again.) You're right, it can be frustrating to try to find out what happened when a page gets deleted. Hope this helps a little. -Pete (talk) 01:44, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:NBA-sea

Template:NBA-sea has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:27, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:WINE newsletter

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Issue IX - January 7th, 2008

In this edition:

  • News & Notes - Portal:Wine up for Featured Portal status, WANTED-GA Coordinator/liaison and wine region maps, and can you guess which wine-related article was viewed over 85,000 times in December?
  • Wiki-Winos - Amatulić and his joke that may make you think twice about accepting an unknown glass of wine from a stranger
  • Wine articles on the Web - Did the Shiraz grape originate in Iran? Where did the Ah-so bottle opener get its name? What is up with that petroleum smell in some Riesling wines? And what the heck is Domaine de la Romanée-Conti doing planting Pinot noir fin? These are the questions that people out on the web are asking. Find out what answers they get when they turn to our Wikipedia wine articles.
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[edit] New Year COTW from WP:ORE

Happy New Year to all the Oregon WikiProject People. A big round of applause for everyone last year, we got a lot done. A thank you to everyone who helped with the last Collaboration of the Week, I saw a large number of articles in the unassessed section and our total number of articles is over 5000 (we were around 4000 in June when the assessment program finished the initial run) so I know at one person was busy tagging. This week we are back to a High importance Stub article the one and only max security prison, first prison, and only one with a death row in the state, the Oregon State Penitentiary. Then, by request we have one of the most prolific ballot measure sponsors in Mr. Bill Sizemore. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 16:44, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oregon to GA COTW

Howdy to WikiProject Oregon members, time for another edition of the Collaboration of the Week. As you may have already noticed, our flagship article Oregon is up for the third time as we make a push to get WP:GA status before going for WP:FA. Since this will take some time to get where it needs to be, this will be the COTW for more than just a week. Also, so we hopefully don’t trip over ourselves, try to coordinate on the article’s talk page. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here.

On another note, just a general good job/pat on the back to the project for a great 2007, the first full year of the project. We had 83 DYKs about Oregon, improved one article to FA, and went from around 4 GAs to 17 GAs. Plus numerous new articles, improvements to existing, the introduction of the COTW, and the introduction of article assessment at the project. Again, great job and here’s to a new year. Aboutmovies (talk) 10:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Roads Newsletter, Issue 1

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[edit] WPOR DYKs

Just an FYI, you have contributed enough Oregon DYKs to proudly display the {{WPOR DYK bronze}} badge. Then when you get up to 10 you can swap it for silver. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:47, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Snowy COTW from WPOR

Hello again from WP:ORE. Please note the Collaboration of the Week is running two hours late, no morning kindergarten, and routers are on snow routes. Thank you to those who helped improve Oregon, we are inching towards GA quality. This week we have another High importance Stub in our official state insect (who knew?) with the Oregon Swallowtail, and then a new article I came across, Biglow Canyon Wind Farm. Help if you can get out of the snow. Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Good day! Aboutmovies (talk) 16:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:WINE newsletter

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[edit] Tom Peterson says it time for Oregon COTW

Wake up! Wake up to a happy day! Says Tom Peterson. Greetings to the gang at WP:ORE, its time for another round of Collaboration of the Week. Last week was a very successful endeavor with great improvement to Oregon Swallowtail and Deuce Biglow Canyon Wind Farm. OK, so there’s no “e” but it makes me laugh. The Biglow production was so successful we got our first DYK out of it. So, let’s try for a second with the tallest building in the state, the Wells Fargo Center. Then by request we have the former governor (among other things) Neil Goldschmidt. Again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, visit here. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of transactions involving the Portland Trail Blazers

You created this, right? I was thinking to make kind of the same page for every NBA team. Feedback on my talk page... Basketball110 the pages I've messed up completely 02:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I've made the Mavs page here. Basketball110 the pages I've messed up completely 23:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] USRD Newsletter - Issue 2

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[edit] rollback

I have granted rollback rights to your account, because after a review of some of your contributions it appears that we can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended use of reverting vandalism: and believe you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see Rollback feature and Rollback school. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Cheers, NoSeptember 19:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clown COTW

Greetings once again to members of the best encyclopedia online about Oregon (aka WP:ORE)! Last week we improved Neil Goldschmidt to close to GA level, and moved the Wells Fargo Center from Stub to Start for the Collaboration of the Week. This week we’re clowning around with some bozo from Oregon, Pinto Colvig, and then in an attempt to garner another DYK, the rather stubby Cooper Spur. As always, any contribution is appreciated, and to opt out of these messages visit here.

As we have quite a few new members over the last six months, I’ll make another pitch for our various subprojects. Listed here, you will find a variety of groups focused on specific areas of Oregon from transportation to culture. Not only can you sign up and coordinate work there, but each often has useful sources and templates related to that topic. No pressure, just an introduction to those new to the project. Adios. Aboutmovies (talk) 16:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:WINE newsletter

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Issue XI - February 21st, 2008

In this edition:

  • News & Notes - Every American Viticultural Area now has an article! Keeping up with the B class wine articles and find out which start class article of top importance was viewed almost 43,000 times between Dec-Jan.
Plus, find out which wine related Did you knows helped to dispel the myths around the Shiraz grape's origins and which Bordeaux wine chateau was a last minute addition to the Bordeaux Wine Official Classification of 1855-not without some controversy.
Also, what wine articles have the most potential to reach Good article status?
  • Wiki-Winos - Meet User:EvanProdromou! Evan who? Well let just say that another "wiki-wino" has come out the closet to say Hi and share what his project Vinismo can do to help Wikipedia's wine articles.
  • Wiki wine articles on the Web - Guess which prominent wine personality thinks that Wikipedia is one of the best wine resources on the web? Also find out who thinks our Mission grape article is lacking and how our Plavac Mali article cleared up some confusion about the grape's relationship to Zinfandel. Plus, was Mick Jagger really singing about Sommeliers in the Stone's song Beast of Burden?
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[edit] Oregon State improving.

In the athletic article, may I add that the last time was in the 1990's? Also, that was not my contribution during my editing of the article. Respectfully, I will put the other in, with your permission. I apologize for the misinformation, and I would liked to be forgiven. Tech43 (talk) 06:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I found it. 1973-1974. Tech43 (talk) 20:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archive

You currently have over two hundred threads in your talk page, I would consider archiving it. You can either got a bot to automatically archive it, manually archive it yourself if you know how, or (If you'd like) I could help you and manually archive it myself. --LAX 14:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Our weekly COTW message from WPOR

Welcome to another wonderful world of WP:ORE COTW. Thanks again to those who lent a hand improving Pinto Colvig and Cooper Spur ski area this past week or so. This week we return to the High importance Stubs, with the mighty Seal of Oregon and former governor and legal superstar Sylvester Pennoyer. To opt out of these messages, or suggest an article, swing by here. Or to stop receiving any WPORE messages just remove your name from the list of members at WP:ORE. Auf Wiedersehen. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Old Buildings and Pictures

Greetings from WP:WikiProject Oregon. Blah blah blah. This week we have our semi-annual Picture Drive and a article creation drive for the NRHP List. For the picture drive, go take a picture, or find a free use one (lots of links to gov sites above) and upload it Wikipedia. For the National Register of Historic Places, find a red link on the main Oregon list or one of the county lists at start a new article. If its more than just a stub, don’t forget to nominate it for a DYK! Once again, to opt out or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] March 14 OR COTW

Hello again or welcome if you are new to WP:WikiProject Oregon! Last week we did a picture drive and a NRHP creation drive. It’s hard to track the picture results, but I know I saw quite a few pictures added, so great job. With NRHP we added 7 that I saw: Mitchell Recreation Area, Salem First United Methodist Church, Portland City Hall, Crater Lake Lodge, Central Library (Portland, Oregon), Watchman Lookout Station, and Alvin T. Smith House; with most now nominated for DYK’s! So great work everybody.

This week, its back to stubs with one of the largest newspapers in the state, The Register-Guard, and a request with Oregon Coast. Feel free to help with either one, and the paper article is so short a DYK should be pretty easy to get (just need 5X expansion). As always, to opt out, opt in, or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:58, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Vera Katz and History

Howdy folks, its time for another installment of WikiProject Oregon’s Collaboration of the Week! Last week we made some improvements to the Oregon Coast and brought The Register-Guard up to B class while garnering a DYK! Great job to those who lent a hand. This week we finish up the High priority Stubs with former mayor and Speaker of the House, Vera Katz, which is pretty much a Start class now and could easily get to B class. We also have History of Oregon by request. Help out if you can, where you can. As always, to opt out, opt in, or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 31 March 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Followers of Christ (Oregon church), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Wizardman 13:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on that -- great article, I enjoyed stumbling on this! -Pete (talk) 16:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Elected Oregon

Hello fellow WikiProject Oregon folks and entities. Thanks to those who helped out with improving Vera Katz and History of Oregon during the last Collaboration of the Week! As you may have noticed, we have changed the banners a bit, but not our dedication to everything Oregon! This week, in honor of the political process, we have: Current Oregon Senate members & Current Oregon House members. Hopefully by November we can have an article on every current member of the Oregon Legislature. So feel free to turn a red link blue or expand an existing article. Since it is an election year, there should be plenty of newspaper stories. Plus, the state archives has this site that allows you to go back and see when they started serving and district info, plus at a minimum show they were a state legislator from a WP:RS. And per WP:BIO, all state legislator's are notable so no need to worry about AFD. As always, to opt out, opt in, or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NBA WikiProject Newsletter

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[edit] Juxtaposition COTW

Howdy Ho WikiProject Oregon! Time for another installment of Collaboration of the Week. The last few weeks we’ve knocked out quite a few articles of our current state legislators, and even a few former ones too. Great job to all those who helped make it happen. On a related note, we have had several DYKs from this and now have 53 DYKs so far this year (not counting multiples), less than four full months into the year. Last year we had a total of 83 DYKs for the entire year, and 7 combined for 2006 & 2005. So we are well on our way to another record year. Each time an article makes it to the main page as a DYK it will typically get an extra 1000 hits, which is usually far more than the typical 100 hits per month most minor articles receive. With that said, this week we have two requests, Portland Lumberjax and Silicon Forest. As always, to opt out, opt in, or suggest future collaborative efforts, click here. Aboutmovies (talk) 03:15, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NBA WikiProject May Newsletter

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[edit] Cinco de COTW

Greetings once again from the Collaboration of the Week at WikiProject Oregon. Thank you to those who helped out with the last set of articles. This week we have the lone Stub class article left in the Top importance classification, Flag of Oregon, and by request, Detroit Lake. Help where you can, if you can. To opt out of these messages, leave your name here. Adios. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Zzzz Oregon COTW

Howdy ya’ll, time for another Collaboration of the Week from WikiProject Oregon. Last week we improved Flag of Oregon & Detroit Lake, enough I think to move them to Start class, so great job everyone! This week, we have another request in Oregon Ballot Measure 47 and a randomly selected two sentence stub that should be easy to expand enough for a DYK in Wallowa-Whitman National Forest. To opt out of these messages, leave your name here, or click here to make a suggestion. Aboutmovies (talk) 18:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] QWERTY: Oregon COTW

Hello WikiProject Oregon participants, time for another edition of Collaboration of the Week. Last week we made some great improvements to Wallowa-Whitman National Forest and Oregon Ballot Measure 47 (1996), with a DYK for the forest. Great job everyone! This week we have another stub, George Lemuel Woods, one of only two governor stubs left, and should be an easy job getting it to Start class. Then, in honor of the long weekend, we have our second State Park Article Creation Drive. Lots of red links to turn blue, lots of opportunities for DYKs. Help if you can, even if it is only adding pictures of state parks. To opt out of these messages, leave your name here, or click here to make a suggestion. May the The Schwartz be with you. Aboutmovies (talk) 10:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] X marks the WPOR COTW spot

Guten Tag WikiProject Oregon team members! Great job last week with the Collaboration of the Week, we improved George Lemuel Woods and added eleven new state park articles. This past week we also surpassed the 6000 article mark as a project. The weather may suck, but WPORE is not. For this week we have by request Music of Oregon and Phil Knight. Both need some help, and with Knight we might be able to improve it to GA standards. Once again, to opt out of these messages, leave your name here, or click here to make a suggestion. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

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