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A whole speech concerning the KNM is not relevant material to an encyclopedic article. A summary however will do fine. KBN (talk) 10:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I haven't deleted information without explanation. Have a look at the history log for the article in reference, it indicates which user made an edit, whether removal or addition of content and what the edit consisted of. Trips (talk) 03:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


The matter is not of winning or loosing agreed. But if u even had a shred of islam, you would not be responsible for keeping it the way it is.

Firstly, if you do not like the way KNM is run, then make another wiki entry about anti KNM propaganda. You need to present a fair and civilized view. And not publicize watever ill feelings you have. If there are genuine critisisms, they way you put it in a wiki article is by adding a heading called criticisms against KNM. and not put irrelevent topics as the main heading. We all know that by far majority(99%) of muslims believe photo is just a tool, and cannot be classified haram in itself.Most grand mufti,s from Ibn baz to forward agree, so if photos of KNM are your problem, then have the guts to post it on every islamic site starting from saudi arabia(country profile).

So now that i know there is someone editing this on a regular basis, we will change the rules of the game. There is only one solution, ie get a draft that is not offensive to any parties- that will include listing the history of KNM, activities, and then the split. A few lines on the split which is not biased can also be included.A section will include briefly criticism of it and what knm has to say about it as well. Beyond that, if there are any more slandering , etc without any valid citations, you will need to create your own wiki entry. So the issue is , are you ready to accept this? or do you just feel good slandering other people. Im sure that is how the prophet taught no wasnt it??!

Joeblckw (talk) 00:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)


Also with respect to photo, you need to create a seperate wiki entry on photos in islam and not vandalize the KNM site. No one scholar has allowed photos huh??!, i dont want to start all over again, we very well know you wont accept what is right or neutral and not matching your views. So basically what my final point is, If you are not KNM or associated with it, then you only have the right to add resonably to the criticism section of KNM and not put huge articles on wheather photo is haram or not, or put interviews of some scholar in madina as the main title. Read and learn how wiki entries are created proffesionally and not with ill intent. Try to be a better muslim and respect others instead of imposing on others Joeblckw (talk) 00:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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