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[edit] hi

This might be use to you. I taking break from this stress. Ani medjool (talk) User_talk:Ashley_kennedy3#Syrian_wine_for_those_who_think_it.27s_all_about_Israel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ani medjool (talk • contribs) 00:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] List of Portuguese grape varieties

I want to be able to sort on individual grapes per region also, i.e. if I sort on region I get most Douro in one section, but only when there is not any other grape before it, not sure how to do that, there are to many of them to put in individual columns ..... thinking of a solution. But nice table/list! Think the name could be improved also, it is much more than just a list of portuguese grape varieties. --Stefan ^talk 00:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps, but I didn't want to expand the list to where every international grape variety was included since undoubtedly producers have started planting more. I wanted to focus mainly on the Portuguese varieties with only a few of the obscure other grapes that have prominence little elsewhere but Portugal. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 19:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Vin Santo

What a useful article it suddenly became and what a huge difference from a few days ago. Great job. Just a little MOS question about the DOCs lists, is there a reason you used this dash-<br/> format instead of the old bullets? Cheers, MURGH ^disc. 01:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, unfortunately the very bureaucratic rules WP:DYK specifies that the 5x expansion count exclude any bulleted text. It also doesn't take into consideration that the article was 100% rewritten and still holds the old, unsourced and encyclopedically questionable material against the article. Considering it was entirely rewritten, I figure it would be a shame for it not to be featured solely because of the difference between a bullet point and a dash. I thought if anyone had any serious MOS objections, we could always change it after it the DYK. Agne^Cheese/^Wine

[edit] Wine cat CfD

I agree, I did not try to point any blame towards you, just explain that Resistance is futile, when a drama like that happens, you must go otherways to make the change, that is why I'm slowly trying to clean up the categories, what a mess!!! I was trying to stayaway from the more contraversial topics, but didn't quite make it. :-) --Stefan ^talk 00:56, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I understand but I am still skeptical about whether or not editors like Occuli will allow the wine project to continue cleaning up the mess. He seems to place more weight on his own opinion on categorization over his lack of knowledge on the subject. Despite having his errors in distinguishing what an article is about being repeatedly shown to him (and I see you are trying yourself. Good luck!), he still brazenly goes about categorizing wine articles as he wills. While I don't doubt his good faith or enthusiasm for an underappreciated area of wiki-gnometry, it is pretty clear that his edits involving wine categories only hurt the encyclopedia and he doesn't seem to want to accept advice or knowledge on how to improve his wine categorization. I just don't see a scenario where he accepts our good faith attempts at cleaning up the wine categories mess by removing inappropriate categorization. As his past wine cat edits show, he seems committed to re-adding these inappropriate cats and keeping them from being emptied and deleted. He simply believes he knows better and I doubt we will make any progress unless the CfD strongly supports a merger results. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 04:45, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

We will have to see. --Stefan ^talk 12:29, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] DYK for Vin Santo

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Materialscientist (talk) 02:14, 27 November 2009 (UTC)