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FOR ANONS, I WILL DEFINITELY REPLY HERE. FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, THIS MAY BE HERE OR AT YOUR TALK PAGE. IF IT IS A MULTI-PARTY DISCUSSION, THEN DEFINITELY HERE [edit] Requests Vote in polls below to rouse the checkuser attendant! [edit] Everything else [edit] Happy cricket watching It's this time again! :) Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 04:29, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - Looks like Fifelfoo celebrated by signing up to review the Invincibles YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 04:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent, nearly there. Next FAC? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:19, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Well 4th Test finally got the 2nd support, so I could add another one. Another invincible in 1948 ready, although I got Xa Loi Pagoda raids ready adn need to ce it. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 07:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- I deserve it for having, in past summer times, said, "Not the bloody cricket again." ... though only about one day matches strangely enough. Test matches enter a meditative state of mind, like watching cycling. Fifelfoo (talk) 07:42, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
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- I think I might just delete a lot of the images to make life easier, expecially as when I added them I wasn't aware that they had to be pre-1946 to be PD in the US; most of them are 1946-1955 and so PD in Aus but not US but people only know of this subtelty at FAC YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 07:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Why do we need the "publisher" and the "work" in refs now? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Where's this? Usually one is sufficient, the publisher or the newspaper/journal titleYellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 07:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Tim Paine for example. "... cites need both publisher= and work= information. For example, the Cricinfo ones have Cricinfo as the work and ESPN as the publisher." Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- That's annoying.....Do we have to add FAirfax/Newsltd to all the papers??? grrr YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 08:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hope not! Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 08:25, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Bill Lawry again. The Monkey gets an ec, and a wicket falls YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 08:00, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - Great Lankan batting. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 08:25, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- All the recent runs are edges, so Sreesanth should clean them up soon, or else he will loose his rags with all these edged fours and get sanctioned for sending the batsman off when their luck finally runs out YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 08:32, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Speaking of which, Sreesanth castles Herath YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 08:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
- Lol, Murali is in so he might add 20 or so annoying runs! Squirt one over gully or chip one over mid-on. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 08:36, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Not today. Look like they've given up. Mahela is #1 in the batting rankings!!!! Don't agree. Too much of a home tiger. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 16:32, 26 November 2009 (UTC) - Haven't seen the rankings. Gambhir should be. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 19:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
Have a good break, I'll be rather slow on getting through the article for review anyway as I'll be mostly out of action this weekend. Fifelfoo (talk) 00:08, 27 November 2009 (UTC) -
- Looks like the game should be over by lunch, came back early to follow this, why, I have no clue. BTW, YM, can you check on some laundry when you get online -- Arvind Arokara (talk · contribs) and Brahminated Iyers (talk · contribs), they're socks of each other, but ducking for Kalarimaster too. Also 67.161.176.99 (talk · contribs) who is block evading Satbir Singh (talk · contribs). cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 04:35, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- No need for a CU on the IP, self-confirmed. -SpacemanSpiff 05:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
The two are equal, but on the other side of an ocean compared to KM YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 23:37, 30 November 2009 (UTC) -
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- Hmmm, ok, thx. I checked the contribution times and they seemed to match, and so did the aggressive edit summaries while removing warnings from talk pages. KM is back as an IP right now (different one), but no alarming contributions, he's just reverting another opposite view POV pusher and making life easy for me. Did you read the over-the-top reaction to India's 100th win? As if they became the first team to do so! -SpacemanSpiff 23:42, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- I just came back from four days in the forest so I haven't heard anything except that Gambhir is on leave. I only noticed that it was the 100th because of the latest edit to Ojha's article. I think SRW presided over 50 by himself and Ponting might be joining him soon, so about 100 in 12-13 years maybe YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 23:45, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, only 84 since SRW's ascension YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 23:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- If I'm not mistaken, about 55 of India's wins have come about since 1990 or so. -SpacemanSpiff 00:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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- (ec)On the Brahmins cat, basically all these cats are for categorizing clans and topics but not people; all came up with this overcategorization of people into castes and subcastes, and I was cleaning up some of the pages that were listed under a few, and got to I think like 5-8 Buddhist Monks along with about 15 or so other people from the cat. I've been doing this periodically for a couple of other cats, but first time I got to the Brahmins cat. You think categorizing people this way is needed? cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 23:47, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, it's certainly true for modern people that caste may not be important, although people from minority/immigrant and groups are usually categorised as such in other countries. Having said that, for most of the Buddha's original followers, their Brahmin status is normally mentioned a lot, for the likes of Kaundinya, Moggallana, Sariputra as is the Kshatriya status of the Sakyan royal family, like Anuruddha, Ananda, etc, as well as the few dalits, or the bandit Angulimala who killed 999 people and garlanded their fingers YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 23:51, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
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- Valid point, maybe a separate category for historical personalities -- Brahmin Buddhist monks or something like that? Reason I think something separate is needed is based on today's structure, you'll find Kaundinya and Ashok Kumar Sharma in the same Brahmin cat. If you have a suitable name, I can create the cat (as a subcat of Brahmins) and recat the monks that I removed. cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 00:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Review Status: Reviewed. Closeness to passing: MOS fiddle, writing & structure discussion or consideration, prose. Fifelfoo (talk) 23:41, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for spending so much time on that. Should be finished by Australian evening hopefully. I've gotten the paperwork for the FTC started although I haven't lodged it yet Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/The Invincibles/archive1 YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 23:49, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Indian Christianity Thank you for your many contributions to Indian Christianity articles. I didn't understand why you deleted Anti-Christian violence in India from the article Christianity in India. It didn't seem to be in the text and is certainly a part of their lives IMO. Student7 (talk) 16:29, 28 November 2009 (UTC) - I was reverting the [[WP:BAN|banned user Nangparbat (talk · contribs) YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 20:40, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Re:Gujjar Hi Yellowmonkey, I hope you can help at the above article. I feel I am slowly being embroiled in an edit war in an article, which I thought I was helping clean up. The problem essentially is a user who seems to be fixated on trying to prove Gujjar are Kshatriya. I have no problem with this, but readingthrough the sources, the picture seems more complex than this, and the Gujjar tribe seem to sit in all Varna's. There seems to be a lack of WP:Assume Good Faith and before I seek User:Chorra to be blocked, I hoped you maybe able to intervene and stop him from deleting references and stop the WP:Synthesis. Compounding this problem is the fact his English seems to be poor. Thanks and Best Wishes.--Sikh-History 13:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC) Good to see you back. What's with the different book ref thing you have happening? Is this more common? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 19:52, 30 November 2009 (UTC) - In the Steve Waugh one? Harvard referencing. some people use it. Another user changed the SRW article to Harv YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 20:24, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I haven't come across it before. Thanks for digging it up. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 01:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
Lol! Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 09:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC) - There is an amazing amount of joke entires out there, and WP CRIC is one of hte cleaner projects :( YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 10:50, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Only one user watches AFL arts. Yes, it is a waste of time! 1,280 unknown-importance arts to go - that's just in Tasmania. Huggle and AWB are extremely boring I don't even bother with them. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 05:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Tinu's bot does it. Not worth it even semihuman YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 05:36, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Got a good review for the main article. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 05:39, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm.. Please don't take out the pitch! Not sure how I feel about this.. :| Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 05:50, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Butchering the best cricket ground in Australia (arguably the only pure major cricket ground in Aust.) for the sake of AFL ... A disgrace and a disaster for cricket. Another soulless generic sports stadium, ho hum. It has certainly put a trip to Adelaide for the Test on the menu for next year, before it is ruined. -- Mattinbgn\talk 08:16, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- The historic already has been knocked down, and stuff the AFL, it's not like anyone wants to watch Port Power....We could just play at N Sydney. We'll be like a rotten boring Indian concrete stadium YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 08:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Can't believe is has/will been allowed to happen, especially in Adelaide. Hodge retirement a shock - been dominating. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 08:35, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Lehmann tried to launch a coup against the SACA last year, although he was rather circular and evasive about his reasoning, but it's a joke. You could fit 50k in the old days eg when Larwood hit Woodfull in the heart. As for Hodge, I can't say I blame him given that they would never pick him regardless but then again, him quitting like that will probably be taken by the selectors as a dummy spit and they would probably punish him some more YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 14:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
[edit] History of Vietnam Well, I still want to focus in medieval Vietnam, which means Early Lê, Lý, Trần and maybe Later Lê. Trịnh/Nguyễn period is much more complicated because the opinions from Vietnamese historians about this period are still diverse and change from time to time. But if I have time, I'll try, at least for some prominent figures like Đào Duy Từ. A long and winding road to go :(! PS: I just nominated the article Trần Thủ Độ, he was a very interesting figure in history of Vietnam. Thanks for your copy/editing, it helps me a lot with my English. Grenouille vert (talk) 04:06, 1 December 2009 (UTC) - It made me suprised that "feudal" seems POV, I use that word only to separate the 938-1858 period from other period (Chinese domination, French colonial), thank you for your note, I will use the word "dynastic era" from now on. Grenouille vert (talk) 15:02, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- It can be seen as being disapproving of the time period as backward and nasty, and that the historians were therefore not respectable to the point of barbarism, as teh Communist Party always refers to the Nguyen Dynasty as "feudal" and "reactionary" all the time. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 17:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh no, the term "feudal" is applied for all dynasties from Đinh Tiên Hoàng to Nguyễn Dynasty with no exception. And recently, the "mainstream" opinion in Vietnam about Nguyễn Dynasty changes a lot, they also publish many books and articles dealing with the achievement of Nguyễn Dynasty such as vi:Tạ Chí Đại Trường's works. Things change, you know :). Grenouille vert (talk) 19:20, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks! Grenouille vert (talk) 00:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for your advice! Last time I was here, Badagnani seemed to be very nice so his comment made me feel a little bit uneasy, he's right, though, I have to improve my writing skill. About Trần Nhân Tông, I haven't finished it yet, there's a lot of document about his Buddhist thought and his role in Vietnamese Zen but I need more time to condense those articles. Spare me some time then. Grenouille vert (talk) 06:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Azerbaijan There is a sentence is the opening section that is highly misleading. When I deleted it I was told I wasn't allowed to. So I replaced it with sourced material. Now you have deleted my material on the grounds that it doesn't belong there. I agree, but I can't allow the misleading sentence to stand. So what do you recommend I do with it? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 04:58, 1 December 2009 (UTC) 4:39, 1 December 2009 (UTC) Hullo. Is this near GA yet do you think? SGGH ping! 15:28, 1 December 2009 (UTC) - Looks close. The most obvious thing is the unusual use of 2:2 to give the series result when that kind of notation is used for a ratio and is equivalent to 1:1 and the mixing of dashes as in 1976-77 and 1976/77, so you have to make a clearcut choice there. That aside having a book(s) would be good in addition in addition to contemporaneous reports written within a few days of the original event. It seems at least to the outsider to be meaty but the match reports might miss things that aren't in the straight data and so forth. I'll have more of a look but no reason to not list it as work can be done in the meantime YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 17:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Righto, thank you. SGGH ping! 11:37, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Creating a web show article - Hi YellowMonkey, I was wondering if it is possible to make an article on Wiki of a web show. If so, could you give me WP:Layout link for it, as I can not find it? I wanted to create an article about a web show called The Valley Girl Show. Thanx! ATC . Talk 23:24, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
- I can't think of any webshow that is notable, although I don't really watch any so don't know the names of anything that was exclusively an internet video. Maybe ask the people who write FAs on internet culture. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 23:31, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
[1]. Just to make sure you're aware. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC) - Noted YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 06:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Iran-related IP vandal Special:Contributions/75.53.127.189 This user has vandalized United Nations geoscheme for Asia and South Asia in ways to remove Iran from South Asia. Can this vandal be disciplined, he/she is one these single purpose editors vandalizing in regards to this topic. (a similar message has been left on Nishkid64' talk page) Thegreyanomaly (talk) 04:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC) - He's only made four edits. Any specific reasoning? YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 06:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Last Invincibles GA Bumping over the length of the summary style of the Test Matches, and if you've had a chance to fix all the points (you seemed to be responding by section, which I took to indicate you'd fixed all points above the done). Fifelfoo (talk) 06:24, 3 December 2009 (UTC) - I'm almost done except af ew things I am reluctant to change, eg chopping YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 09:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Don't agree with chopping. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 09:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- I like articles fat like Sehwag's Test 100s YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 09:38, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- He's a freak! Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 09:41, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- A ball change lol. Too much hitting YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 09:44, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm amenable to reasonable argument on lengths. Hell, I'm not a specialist, and it was good reading. I just found it long as a non-specialist. And I only asked for discussion not chops :). Fifelfoo (talk) 09:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've replied at teh talk page YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 12:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Sheesh.. has taking a battering! Won't be surprised if Murali retires ahead of schedule. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 09:48, 3 December 2009 (UTC) - Well, SL wasted a lot of time with the overrates. Sehwag might have passed Bradman's 309 in a day, although he also seemed to be shutting up shop for another 200 tomorrow maybe YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 12:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Instead of (information) could something like (in England, 1948), (on tour), (Ashes 1948) be used? I forgot to check the score for the game today, and just checked. Sehwag! cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 12:35, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- You missed out then. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 13:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Not much to follow really. As Sehwag said, "I just wanted to see the ball and hit the ball." Well, he just did that. Abecedare (talk) 13:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
At Australian cricket team in England in 1948 could have: Donald Bradman (5T, 23FC), with a key explaining whatever abbreviations you pick. This will avoid the need for repeating the same parenthetical term 18 times. Abecedare (talk) 13:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC) - Actually this makes more sense since they're series articles, the no of games played provides context. I think the youtube highlights for Sehwag's innings should be up soon. But it might be worth getting the real package to just watch him go past Lara! cheers. -SpacemanSpiff 15:11, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
I read that we spell out No. 3 now. This particularly affected tennis and music articles, who just used #3 or #5 instead of number three or number five. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 21:14, 3 December 2009 (UTC) - Fifelfoo started the review on teh first day of the cricket season, maybe he is waiting for a Viru WR to close it??? :) YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 22:46, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe :) He'll get out however. Got his double (I think, maybe 250) by slogging across the line to mid-wicket, courageous. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 22:54, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Your header is incorrect. It lacks a GA icon. Fifelfoo (talk) 00:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Spaceman's RFA YM, If appropriate, can you add the notice for Spaceman's candidacy at the Criicket project noticeboard. - Templated notice: {{subst:Administrator candidacy notice|SpacemanSpiff}}
Abecedare (talk) 18:11, 3 December 2009 (UTC) Done YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 21:32, 3 December 2009 (UTC) Too lazy to do my own :P Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 22:16, 3 December 2009 (UTC) - It's the natural thing to do to cut and paste repeated full book citations and alt captions. only problem is if an error is propagated, which happens quite often, as per me somehow concluding that Andre Deutsch publishes the Penguin History of Australian Cricket, or when I copied the ISBM off the Encyclopedia of the VN War wrong.... YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 22:31, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Not going to the cricket? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 23:47, 3 December 2009 (UTC) - No, the WI are too depressing, and there's a giant hole in the ground with gravel etc as well. Well Fifelfoo passed without waiting for Viru. Off to FTC! Wikipedia:Featured topic candidates/The Invincibles/archive1 YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 00:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent! Got an urge to add bits about Sehwag! Might be going to the opening day of the Boxing day Test but Pakistan not exciting me too much at the moment. Then I'll probably watch the Test in Hobart if I'm not too depressed. Will watch Tas V NSW tomorrow at NTCA Ground. Predicting 300 par score despite the average being 200 there - go figure. Warner and Hughes opening will be interesting. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 00:50, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Another List A. I thought they already had the NSW-TAS List As YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 00:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- This is their last contest. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 00:58, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Thanks, the last hurdle is still to be cleared though. Never done a FTC before. Wonder how it will go and if it is just like 1*42=42. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 01:16, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hopefully its only as bad as 1 FA. It could be as bad as 42 FAs. Or 42x42 FAs, or 4242 FAs. Think of all the combinatorial possibilities. Fifelfoo (talk) 01:23, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- Will there be complaints about the main article not being FA? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 01:32, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
- WP:FT shows a lot of FTs where the main article is not FA YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles Featured topic drive:one left) 01:45, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
Will Obviously pass. Going to nominate another FAC soon? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! - Oh see you have Xa Loi Pagoda raids - never noticed. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 07:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- It's good to get something where you don't have to wait 21-30 days for 3 supports YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 12:12, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Brett Geeves opened the batting and bowling for Tasmania. Warner was getting heaps of shit from the bogans on the fence. Offering him beer and a getting him to wear a pink cap and do dances - I don't think Stuart Clark was too impressed. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 20:21, 5 December 2009 (UTC) [edit] Closing Thierry Henry FAR This was reckless, as I cited four reasons in requesting the review. Your view that a short term controvery shouldnt affect the status only answered two, and I think that the week long full protection which was in place on the article for about a week following the incident was time enough for contributors to come up with a mention which maintained the article at a featured article standard. Petepetepetepete (talk) 00:35, 5 December 2009 (UTC) - Only the prose issue was not caused by the handball, yet I see that the prose has not changed in the last month except for the the addition of the handball. So I don't see how you are referring to it deteriorated in reference to the content dispute when it hasn't been touched YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 00:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- If Michael Jackson's death was not mentioned in the lead of his article, if this incident is analagous, then i would think that it should be FAR'd for not being comprehensive. Similarly, if all of Barack Obama's life was documented in simplistic in the 80s he did this, in the 90s he did this, in the 00s he did this, i'd feel that was worth review. I dont see how a featured article can, two weeks on from such an incident still so poorly reflect the situation, yet the review is closed before it begins. There are a number of users who have expressed an interest in the controversy on both the Thierry Henry page and on the page for the controversy itself, and leaving the review open would have been a great oppurtunity for numerous users to get together and improve the Thierry Henry article back to FA standard following a tumultous few weeks. Petepetepetepete (talk) 00:59, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- A lot of people who wrote or are otherwise involved in teh article are alive and kicking and will do the copyediting if necessary. At this point in time, the FAR would also attract an abnormal amount of dramamongering, from newbies and drivebys, because it is a bit of a hot topic. These types of things tend to just turn into a stampede, so it's better to keep things low profile. In lots of things on Wikipedia, people will just see a big item and jump in, and sometimes just do it to get attention. I obviously am not referring to regular sports or even soccer editors. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 03:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- And I was referring more to politicians, quite a lot on Wikipedia, who decide on where to make an appearance depending on how many eyes will be upon them YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 12:12, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- YM was justified in closing the review; we don't defeature an article just because recent events temporarily destabilize, and the talk page should be used for discussion. If the article is still having problems a few months from now, that's a different story. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:14, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
I see that you've reverted my inclusion of several prominent members of the Family. You may not be aware of widespread media coverage about the Family -- I suggest you begin with these sources: -
- Terry Gross (November 24, 2009). "The Secret Political Reach Of 'The Family'". Fresh Air from WHYY. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120746516. "The legislator that introduced the bill [imposing the death penalty on Ugandan homosexuals], a guy named David Bahati, is a member of the Family, appears to be a core member of the Family, he organizes their Ugandan National Prayer Breakfasts, and oversees an African student leadership program."
- Ruth Gledhill (November 29, 2009). "Archbishop of Canterbury in 'intensive' efforts to combat Ugandan anti-gay death law". The Times. http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2009/12/archbishop-of-canterbury-in-intensive-efforts-to-combat-ugandan-antigay-death-law.html. "David Bahati, the Ugandan MP who introduced the legislation, is reported to be a member of The Family, The Children of God, The Family International, The Fellowship."
- Sharlet, Jeff (2008). The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power. HarperCollins. p. 25. ISBN 978-0-06-055979-3.
- Mooney, Alexander (July 17, 2009). "A third 'C Street' Republican embroiled in sex scandal". CNN. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/17/a-third-c-street-republican-embroiled-in-sex-scandal/. Retrieved July 20, 2009.
- Belz, Emily; Pitts, Edward Lee (August 29, 2009). "All in the Family". World Magazine. http://www.worldmag.com/articles/15778. Retrieved August 14, 2009.
A list of prominent members of the Family listed in WP:CITE sources available at The Fellowship (Christian organization)#List of prominent Family members. Also see Category talk:Members of the Family also known as the Fellowship#Rationale for category. I do not wish to engage in revert-warring with you, so I will wait a day or so for your response before I add these facts back to the appropriate pages, which I believe have been deleted in error. Zerschmettert die Schändliche (talk) 08:42, 5 December 2009 (UTC) - There are serious undue weight problems to say the least in chucking allegations of membership of this thing in the lead of various articles, eg, to folks who were the heads of the army/air force especially when many of hte articles are short, and an allegation of something not so notable is given such prominence compared to war decisions and strategic policy. Same for the politicians frankly. The agenda is very obvious. It's not just the existence of a source YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 12:12, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
80% done. haven't ce yet however. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 04:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC) - Ok, I'll have a look at it. So might want to use ti to reuse it in the 2008 BG article. More stars and ticks for your work! YP should be easy now, pity about the treatment dry topics get at FAC. And India at #1, only briefly I suspect, unless they do better than 1-0 against NZ and WI. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 05:44, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- For some strange reason SRT was the one covered most for the #1 status on Cricinfo. The ranking is quite funny. -SpacemanSpiff 05:52, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's Indian journalists for you. They put the idols ahead of the team really. India can't hold it unless they get a sharper attack. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 05:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Surprisingly, no activity on the India team article yet. I didn't realize that they sacked Prasad as bowling coach. He seemed to have been doing a decent job (for what he was given), looks like it's gone downhill since then. -SpacemanSpiff 05:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Still, I was surprised that the comment about India being consistently strong since hte 1970s was entrenched in the article as Gavaskar presided over a winless streak of 31. On the topic of fast bowling, I recently saw the doco about the 1983 WC win on a plane and found it rather amusing that Kapil's partners seemed to bowl at about 115 kph, Balwinder Sadhu and Amarnath... oh Binny as well. Still, they need someone to fix the fast bowling. It's embarrassing to see the likes of R Vinay Kumar, Sarveesh Kumar in IPL 2008; The Sikh seamer that Deccan had in 2009 was really hopeless as well among others. To think that these guys are somehow in the top 25 pacers in India, they looked worse than some of the 19 year olds in Australia that get invited to bowl to touring international batsmen in the nets. Or that VRV Singh was once the 4th best paceman in India. horrible YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 06:11, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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- India only scheduled to play a couple of Test in the next two years. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:15, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- there'll be more, but not much I supsect. Cricinfo shows everything as empty. Everyone theoretically wants to play India the most because of the money, but somehow their total cricket is always less than Australia. As for workload, they can always rest players for series against Bangladesh, although some will not want to miss an opportunity to pad their average; probably every international player except SEhwag and Gilchrist. NZ and WI haven't played Tests in India since late 03 and 02. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 06:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Still have to finish 4th Test and background bits. After copyedit and peer review it should pass GAN. Let me know if anything needs adding or it's too biased towards Ponting. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC) - Bias isn't a problem. I see a big chunk on everyone bagging his Nagpur tactics are in there. YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 06:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
What's going on with James Constable? Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:27, 6 December 2009 (UTC) - Whoops, forgot about it. The author seems rather lethargic though,a lthouh I am pretty strcit compared to most other GACs; a lot os sports bios pass without any style section YellowMonkey (bananabucket) (Invincibles finally at Featured topic candidates) 06:33, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm no real strict about the norm. Only cricket arts seem to have a style section. It's hard to ref. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 06:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
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