[edit] Vandalism

I just removed some vandalism by 125.253.34.75. Oddity- (talk) 09:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] OGplanet ripped us off

I am going to every review mmorpg website I can find and suggesting they review OGplanet for shutting down Albatross 18 with only one months notice. There are many people currently discussing legal actions with their attorneys. There are more people joining in the fight everyday. As a game developer myself I jus thought this would make an interesting headline. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.8.14.157 (talk) 22:53, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Missing a *HUGE* sub-genre

I found an external link that discusses, in particular, console RPG's and its three main sub-genre's. It brings to light that this template is missing an enormously huge sub-genre. Either that, or that we need to rethink how we're classifying the genres.

In this case, its the "Traditional" sub-genre that's missing. And both Computer and Console RPG's have Traditional sub-genre's. Or maybe, for easier handling, Traditional is the main sub-genre, with Computer-Style and Console-Style sub-sub-genres -- and we can forget this silliness about platform when we're talking about genres.

In any case, it is extremely ugly (IMHO) to lump all RPG's that ever came out on a console into one huge chronology page (or set of pages). In a similar vein, its ugly to lump all the games made available to computers that way. It would be vastly more helpful to work on identifying separate lists of computer-style and console-style RPG's -- regardless of platform. Under such a premise, the Ultima games, though they were made available to platforms, would be listed properly (with all platforms they were available on) under Computer-style RPG's, and Septerra Core would be listed under Console-style RPG's.

It's frustrating that Wikipedia is the only resource I've found yet that recognizes the differences between computer-style and console-style RPG's, yet when we build these lists, we still concern ourselves more over the platform, rather than the true genre of the game. We already have lists for the individual platforms, lets let the genre lists be genre lists. Dawynn (talk) 15:02, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

It would be helpful if you provided some additional sources. The site you linked to isn't considered reliable on Wikipedia, AFAIK. SharkD (talk) 17:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

What they have outlined as "Traditional" RPG's, and we can call them, I guess, whatever term comes to mind -- are the mainline RPG games. The games that are *not* Action RPG's, Tactical RPG's, Roguelikes, etc. What Wikipedia has termed Computer/Western RPG's and Console/Eastern/Japanese RPG's, (although SharkD has abused these terms in building his Chronology pages). Most websites that categorize games (GameFaqs, allgame, etc) separate Action RPG's and Tactical RPG's from the mainstream RPG's, even if they are not so clear in delineating Eastern and Western RPG's. Since Wikipedia recognizes Eastern/Console and Western/Computer RPG's, these should be somehow represented in the category breakdown.

(Basically, having *some* kind of category here fits with a viewpiont that if we're going to breakdown the genre into subgenres, then every game in the genre should fit into a subgenre. The Traditional / Mainstream / Whatever we call it sub-genre covers the main set of RPG's)

I guess I'm still having a *lot* of trouble believing that the "Console" and "Computer" prefixes on the RPG video game sub-genres has much to do with the platform, when the better share of the related articles deal with specific sub-genre-defining differences between "Console-style" and "Computer-style" RPG's. There are "Computer" RPG's on the console (Ultima, Wizardry) and "Console" RPG's on the computer (FF VII, Septerra Core). These sub-genres are named based on the origin of the two different styles of RPG, but the styles are fairly distinct, and since Wikipedia has already recognized them as sub-genres, this template should honor that recognition.

Dawynn (talk) 15:41, 18 May 2009 (UTC)