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[edit] Fixed Link

I fixed the link involved to point to martial arts and not martial art, which would redirect to martial arts. The user would get there anyway, but I think it looks bad on us if we don't even have our templates pointing to the right article.

Liastnir 01:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Martial Arts

I'm not sure if this is the right place to say this, but I find it a little POV to associate a Ying-yang with martial arts. I mean, chinese people weren't obsessed with ying-yangs and korean people didn't even know what they were until the rest of the world did. Assosiating a ying-yang with martial arts is like putting the american flag on a category called "smart people". After all, we have pretty smart people. How long is it until that is not a biased, POV statement? Has anyone realised Taekwondo is more popular than Karate? An image associated with chinese popular culture does not belong on a category full of martial arts stubs.Daniel_123 | Talk 14:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC) feel free to argue with me on my talk page, I always win.

• What about a cleaned up version of this image? It's the only one I've found so far that would look decent enough at that small a size. I'll keep looking though. ~ Amalas rawr ^{=^_^=} 16:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Obviously a highly "Japanese POV" image. :| Alai 18:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
• Right, and TKD would have nothing to do with Korea, which would have nothing to do with "ying-yang"? I guess the South Korean flag must be pretty "Chinese POV", then. Your "smart people" analogy is a tad flawed, as a) the POV problem there is the whole concept of such a category, and b) a more comparable situation would be putting a "smart American person" on a smart-bio-stub. Put me down as a "strong keep". It's a little large, though. Alai 18:33, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
• I think the problem here is the martial arts covers a large geographical area - China, Japan, Korea, etc. It's going to be extremely difficult to find an image that isn't POV one way or the other. Perhaps just remove the image for now? ~ Amalas rawr ^{=^_^=} 18:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
  • I think the problem here is largely non-existent, to be quite candid. The symbol is Chinese in origin, yes, but is widely used in Korea -- how many other countries have a Taijitu on their flag? You'll even see TKD paraphenalia that uses it, and it's also on occasion adopted or aped in the context of Japanese MAs. (For example, look at Still Point Aikido's logo, and wonder where they, eh, were inspired from.) Alai 19:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Why can't we just add a fist or something? That pretty much sums everything up. Sorry WTF TKD.--NoNo 02:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Biased against weaponed, open-hand-striking, and non-striking arts? :) Alai 00:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)