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Contents 1 New name 2 Fix this sentence, please 3 The third single discussion is messed up 4 The article needs a new pic 5 Misc 6 Rumors 7 Source 8 New Layout 9 single info 10 Criticism and Vocalists Sections 11 Americocentric 12 PCD is Gold 13 Roles of group 14 complete rewrite needed 15 Jessica Sutta page deleted? 16 Tainted Love 17 New Song or Unreleased? 18 Vegas Show 19 External Links 20 Nicole leaving?? 21 Salaried employees of Interscope?? 22 Past members? 23 Random Fact 24 Album Sales via Media Traffic! 25 Discography 26 User:Candy Baby 1234 27 Genre 28 20 million? 29 References 30 Proper Genre. 31 Christina Applegate 32 Double The Trouble/Fired Up 33 ? 34 Discussion Over The Current Edits. 35 Repertoire 36 Asia Nitollano. 37 Oops! 38 Carmit Bachar 39 Single Infoboxes 40 Info box 41 "Fever" Suggestion 42 Fanmade Picture in the Infobox 43 Split? 44 Sections and infobox. 45 Too soon to add new Category? 46 Asia has opted to go solo 47 Sway 48 Kimberly Wyatt: Singer, Dancer, or Both? 49 SPLIT! 50 Individual members' pages 51 La la la 52 Best Friend? 53 The 54 Stupid request 55 Black Eyed Peas 56 Reduce discography 57 NPOV? 58 Split 59 Updating the photos 60 Category naming 61 Is PCD GOING TO REPLACE THE MEMBER? 62 Article Vandalised - Please Fix 63 Doll Domination 2.0 / Revised Edition 64 Picture 65 Nicole Scherzinger is no longer with PCD 66 hush hush the final pcd song ever? 67 Former members section 68 Dolls alter egos 69 Dolls alter egos 70 August 2009 - Break-up rumours 71 IMPORTANT AUG 2009 - Article Changes 72 Unsourced Memebrs 73 Opening para 74 Antin did NOT negotiated a record deal 75 Rumored line-up change

[edit] New name

The last two singles "Jai Ho (You Are My Destiny)" and "Hush Hush; Hush Hush" have been going by the name "Nicole Scherzinger ft. The Pussycat Dolls" so does that mean they are now Nicole Scherzinger and The Pussycat Dolls? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solotwilight (talk • contribs) 02:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Fix this sentence, please

Hello, this sentence should be fixed: "Along with Applegate, Christina Aguilera and Carmen Electra (who was the group's lead performer for many of their shows) the troupe was featured in a Maxim Magazine shoot in 2002." First, throw in a comma after the parenthetical. More importantly, from the wording of this sentence it is difficult to deduce whether or not Applegate and Aguilera were part of the troupe, or simply two other celebrities that were also featured in Maxim shoots in 2002. I don't think the latter was intended, were Applegate and Aguilera also in the band, at some point? The parenthetical makes it clear that Electra was, although the wording is equally ambiguous. Cheers 76.93.90.245 (talk) 00:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The third single discussion is messed up

It should be: "The third single, "Beep", featured Black Eyed Peas lead rapper will.i.am"

[edit] The article needs a new pic

One member, Melody Thornton, is missing from the picture. If anyone has another one, please share.Hihellowhatsup 04:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Misc

What does it mean that Madonna, Aquilera, and Spears were in "pussycat garb"? Was there any actual association with the group or were they just wearing pin-up outfits? MK2 16:43, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hey Yall, if you go to Amazon.com, and type in Pussycat Dolls, or PCD, you will find the album cover for their album coming out in September. I think you guys should put that up here, instead of the "Don't Cha" Single CD cover.

Good call. Done. AriGold 12:36, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rumors

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[edit] Source

Hi. You guys might wanna check out this site. It contains some information about the group. Notice this: our article says the group was created in 1995, but this website states that it was created in 1993, but the first performance took place in 1995. Have we committed a quid-pro-quo, or is the website wrong? May be worth checking. Regards, Redux 04:52, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Also, if you want to insert biographies of the members, you can find the information here. Careful not to violate copyrights though, but this kind of information might help the article. Redux 05:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] New Layout

Thanks to whoever had the layout cause the singles with the pics and album cover looks great!!

Someone needs to fix 'Sway.' That was their first song, it was already released in 2004. That needs to be put in front of 'Don't Cha.'

[edit] single info

the pussycat dolls released a song and a video for a movie before the release of "Don't cha". I don't remember the name of the movie but it was with Jennifer Lopez, something about dancing... not very old...

Just tought it should be added to the singles area...

Shall we dance? getcrunk juice 02:03, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

"Sway" is the song you're talking about. Most people still consider "Don't Cha" to be the 1st single. 132.208.24.101 23:39, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't "Sway" be added as first single, as it was the first single? -- Luigi-ish 09:40, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what people 'consider' to be their first single, it matter what IS their first single and that would be "Sway", NOT "Don't Cha".

im glad somone else brought this up, im am fed up of people saying that dont cha was their debut single when sway was, its like how people consider crazy in love to be beyonces first single when it was work it out, its only because sway failed to chart in the u.s 'fans' of 'the dolls' are ashamed and want to forget/pretend that it was never released because they hate to admit that their first single was a flop and not a huge hit like dont cha was 81.1.112.20 23:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

no that's not how it happened. I was watching the E! THS (True Hollywood Story) on the Pussycat's and although you can't believe all of that show, Robin Antin or there manager or somebody who works very closely with the girls said that "Sway" was used to promote some movie like i think "Shall We Dance?" and that "Don't Cha" was the first official single from their album. They released "Don't Cha" to gain attention and once it became a hit they rushed to make an album.

[edit] Criticism and Vocalists Sections

I removed the "Criticism" section, which consisted of a single line: The Pussycat Dolls' composer's songs have been continuously criticized for their sexual references, and some critics think that their songs have no meaning. That could be said about 90% of all pop artists. If anyone has anything of substance to add, please feel free to resurrect it.

Also, I find the tone of the "Vocalists" section to be a little odd. Only one member of the group is a regular singer; three of the girls have only sung on one track, a b-side. Given that the group is considered a singing act, this is clearly a significant detail, but this section seems to dismiss the critics as uninformed. What the dill-yo? --Aemilia 01:26, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The "Vocalists" section and part of the "Repertoire" section were removed. I think they are both valid inclusions and I'll reinstate them. --Design 11:19, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Americocentric

This article has clearly been written by someone that isn't too aware of the world outside America. It needs to be rewritten in a more international tone. violet/riga (t) 14:16, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] PCD is Gold

http://www.riaa.com/gp/database/search_results.asp

It was just certified Gold in December I doubt it has sold 600,000 copies in a month and a half. Its only gold not platinum someone needs to change it and keep it like that.

On her PCD diary, Nicole Scherzinger confirmed that PCD went platinum.

[edit] Roles of group

It's my understanding (from Allmusic) that only Scherzinger is actually involved in the musical aspects of the group, with the rest of the members pretty much explicitly eye candy/dancers, with no musical involvement at all. I quote Allmusic: Open the booklet for their 2005 debut, PCD, and their artificiality is made clear: the first page reads "All lead and background vocals by Nicole Scherzinger. Should this be made clearer, and Scherzinger's role mentioned earlier in the article? john k 00:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Carmit and Melody also sang in their song Beep.

Do you have a source on that? Allmusic says the booklet says that all lead and background vocals are by Scherzinger. john k 18:53, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

The booklet also says: "Additional vocals by Melody Thornton and Carmit Bachar." My friend has the booklet himself, and I read it. Euqinimod 03:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] complete rewrite needed

As the original author of this article, way back when, I think we need a complete rewrite here. The Pussycat Dolls started as a burlesque dance troop and the original article reflected this. Now they are a pop singing group - the article has evolved to reflect this but the change was so substantial, I think the article would benefit from somebody starting it over from scratch. As an analogy, it would have been like if we had started a Wikipedia article on Ronald Reagan back when he was an actor and then continuously updated it through his subsequent political career - at some point, we should acknowledge we're essentially talking about a different subject than the one we started with. MK2 03:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. A massive revision would be a good idea. john k 04:11, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jessica Sutta page deleted?

Why is the page for Jessica Sutta (which this one links to) deleted? Djedi 15:17, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

The Jessica Sutta page has been reinstated.Design 03:36, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tainted Love

The cover version recorded by the Pussycat Dolls is a medley "Tainted Love/Where did our love go". The source of this cover is accurately attributed to Soft Cell, as their hit '80s version was a medley of the same two songs. The original individual songs are correctly attributed to Gloria Jones & The Supremes, respectively. A recent edit credited Diana Ross as the original source for "Tainted Love", and removed reference to Soft Cell. I will revert this edit. Design 01:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Song or Unreleased?

on Last.FM, on the songs list, it's says the Pussycat Dolls have a song called "Fever". [Put title here]- Hill03

• They used to perform this song (the Peggy Lee classic), usually with Carmen Electra singing, back when they were still known as a dance troupe. I don't know if the current incarnation stills performs the song. MK2 02:09, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Thanks!- Hill03

[edit] Vegas Show

Does this article need some clarification about the PCD show in Las Vegas, as a separate entity to the touring group with Nicole Scherzinger? Are they two differnet things? Aren't most of the live guests, like Denise Richards, appearing in Vegas, not with the Scherzinger group? Design 09:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I remember hearing and reading about the fact that the PCD showgirls are different than the PCD group, although (obviously) they're connected. I just don't know where I heard it from...but it was an official source. SKS2K6 06:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

I noticed some links were taken off. Are people not allowed to post fansites or links to forums? Sorry i'm new...and was curious.Surfbuddy

See WP:EL. Indeed, links to forums and fansites are rarely acceptable. -- Mikeblas 17:11, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Ohh ok.. i wasn't aware..thanks!Surfbuddy

[edit] Nicole leaving??

On Nicole's wikipedia page it says that she is leaving the pussycat dolls after her contractual commitments to the PCD album are up. Is this true or just a rumor? And if it is true who will be taking over lead vocals if nicole leaves the group? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.194.48 (talk • contribs)

Reply- Nicole is not leaving. But she IS releasing a solo album. I fixed her page because she has stated that she will be with them for the next album too. Also, Melody Thornton would probably take over, because she has the second most amount of solos and her voice is heard the second-most in all the songs.I recomend for her to leave she is so ugly and sleezy.

Reply- Well Nicole would not be able to leave it would not be a very good band if it was just left out with Nicole her being SOLO would be cool,but just not that good for the other gals.If they had to see anything more outrages it would be Nicole leaving on Nicoles Wikipedia page it says that she will have a solo album,she would never do that if she had more than one album solo she would be judged on it she would probely go SOLO then.I wouldn't be suprized she wants to go SOLO you can tell she is not that happy as she use to be on stage and she makes so much so yeah,the rumor of her being a pole dancer may be affecting her that she wants to resign.

[edit] Salaried employees of Interscope??

On Melody Thornton's wiki page it says that she is a salaried employee of Interscope like the rest of the Pussycat Dolls. what exactly does this mean and how is this different to arrangements that other recording artists usually have with their label? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.194.48 (talk • contribs)

A common arrangement is where the recording artist has a contract with the label for their recordings only. The artist would usually have their own management, publisher, lawyers, touring company, merchandise company, etc. quite separate from the label. This means the artist would have potentially more "artistic" control over their business, more "revenue streams" under their control, and focus on their own career. If they are a group, then the membership of the group would commonly be decided by the members themselves.

Since the Dolls are employees then nearly all of the above would be controlled by Interscope, including the ability to hire & fire. The label's focus would probably be on Interscope's profits (short term?) and could possibly conflict with the long term career of the Dolls members. The Spice Girls might make an interesting comparison: they were formed by a manager, whom they later fired, and they went on to control their own affairs, and spawn some solo success. So it's not necessarily all doom for the solo futures of the current Dolls. --Design 10:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Past members?

The info box currently lists Eva Longoria and Christina Aguilera as "past members". They are already listed as "guests" towards the end of the article. Guests is probably more accurate; if so, then their names should be removed from the info box. --Design 10:49, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Random Fact

NZ is the only country in the world where every single released by the pussy cat dolls has reached number one. Mathmo 06:40, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Gosh thats nothing to be proud of - NZL

I know, and I'm not. Just a random fact, sad but true. Mathmo ^Talk 10:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Album Sales via Media Traffic!

okay, in 2005 countdown it states that PCD sold 1.6 million copies, then in the first week of 2006 it says that PCD sold 268,000 copies but u dont add that to the end of year total because that 268,000 copies was already added to the total, so if u still dont understand, first week of 2006 is added to 2005 countdown, I know this because media traffic is updated every friday and the first week of 2006 was actually first shown in the last friday of 2005. if u want to add something to that please do.I always learn from my mistakes!thank u for ur time.

[edit] Discography

I recommend that the detailed discography continue with its own current article, and that the discog. in this article be reduced with less detail. The current table format makes it take up a lot of space. --Design 00:11, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I propose reducing the discog. by removing the images and some other details (all of which will remain at The Pussycat Dolls discography), unless there is a consensus to the contrary. --Design 12:53, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Candy Baby 1234

Candy Baby 1234 (talk · contribs) and her IP sockpuppets 213.122.125.30 (talk • contribs • info • WHOIS) and 213.122.65.214 (talk • contribs • info • WHOIS) (see Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Candy Baby 1234) are continually removing the Pop music genre from this article and several other Pussycat Dolls-related articles. To suggest that this group is not a pop group and purely an R&B group is ridiculous. Does anybody else feel that PCD is not a pop group? --musicpvm 19:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

Pussycat Dolls is a Pop Group, however to suggest they are purely pop is also wrong. I agree with different points made by Candy Baby 1234 (talk · contribs) & musicpvm. Pussycat Dolls have very strong R&B/Hip Hop influences, however they also make Pop. Don't Cha has Pop, Hip Hop and R&B influences. Stickwitu is more prominently R&B but is still poppy. Beep is the same. Buttonz is has stronger R&B/Hip Hop[ influences so I believe that is the only song so far that isnt a Pop Song. Wait a Minute and I Dont Need A Man are very Pop-orientated, wheras How Many Times, How Many Lies has stronger R&B influences.

So to sum up, I think R&B, Hip Hop and Pop should be featured in the article.

[edit] 20 million?

The PCD have NOT sold 20 million records ww... there is no way - they have sold a little over 5 million worldwide - NOT 20 MILLiON!

[edit] References

Could some kind editor please format the refs. for this page? --Design 01:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proper Genre.

Three users, me included, seem to be involved in an edit war. One user keeps changing the genre to R&B and Hip Hop, while the other user and I have reverted The Pussycat Dolls' genre back to Pop/R&B/Dance/Hip hop. Technically, their genre is pop, R&B, dance, and also hip hop. They're not just R&B and hip hop. I am willing, however, to go with a consensus on the genre. Acalamari 17:59, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, how about:

Pop
R&B
Hip Hop
Dance

19:11 5 February —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JJH1992 (talk • contribs) 19:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC).

That looks fine. What's the difference between what I said and what you've suggested? Arre you saying that dance should be at the bottom of the genres? That's okay, as long as we can keep all the genres in. Acalamari 19:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Listen they don't really have a genre they are lip syncers on TV on stage they are still lip syncers im sorry to say their lips don't move when they sing most of the time.Though other wise pop/r'n'b

[edit] Christina Applegate

The article currently states:

"1993–2003: Dance troupe beginnings Some sources claim that Robin Antin began exploring the idea of a modern burlesque troupe in 1993 with her friend Linh Le and Christina Applegate (both friends since high school)"

Can someone cite a source for Linh Le? Or is this just a lingering piece of vandalism? Also needs some clarification as to who were friends "since high school"; since Antin was born in 1961 and Applegate in 1971 they were probably not students together. Does the writer mean that Le and Applegate were friends "since high school"? --Design 11:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Still no source for this. Needs clarification. --Design 00:33, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Bdushaw has added two sources for Applegate. Thank you. Still no source for Linh Le, nor the school connection, so I 'll remove both.--Design 12:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Double The Trouble/Fired Up

The second pussycat doll album has been confirmed to be either 'Double The Trouble' or 'Fired Up'. Main Vocals are said to come from Nicole Scherzinger, Melody Thornton, Ashley Roberts and the new member. Jessica Sutta, Carmit Bachar and Kimberley wyatt are said to have some solo spots but are more on the background vocal side even though Jessica sutta will have a much more prominent vocal role then Kimberley Wyatt and Carmit Bachar. The album is said to be released in september in the U.S and is said to be released in october in Europe and Australia.Rumors are that Ashley Roberts will take the most prominent vocal role as she has been claimed to be one of the best vocalists in the group as she has been compared to Mariyln Monroe and has been voted the second favourtie pussycat doll (in lead Nicole Scherzinger, third Melody Thornton). Also the new member ( rumored to be Melissa Smith) may also be taking the second most prominent vocal role followed by Nicole Scherzinger and then Melody Thornton. There second album is said to have cover versions of songs such as: 'Shame','Erotica' and a mash up of 'Fever/Big spender' (Lead is said to be Carmit and Melody Thornton). Nicole Scherzinger confirmed taht she has written 12 songs for the group and Melody Thornton also confirmed that she has written tracks for the next album. Tracklisting Confirmation: Work It Lead Vocals:(Nicole Scherzinger, Ashley Roberts and Melody Thornton) New Guy Lead Vocals: (New Member,Jessica Sutta,Ashley Roberts) Caught Up Lead Vocals:(Kimberly Wyatt,Carmit Bachar, Nicole Scherzinger) My Baby Lead Vocals:( Ashley Roberts, Melody Thornton and Jessica Sutta) Fever/Big Spender (Melody Thornton, Carmit Bachar) This Time Lead Vocals: (New Member, Nicole Scherzinger, Kimberley Wyatt) Erotica Lead Vocals:( Ashley Roberts, Melody Thornton and Carmit Bachar) Ooh Lead Vocals:(Jessica Sutta, New Member and Kimberley Wyatt) Stay Here Lead Vocals:(Adlhey Roberts, New Member and Carmit Bachar)

The Pussycat Dolls second album is said To be more RNB but with a twist of techno-pop and urban. It is also confirmed that on this album there are going to be more ballads like there number on hit 'stickwitu' for instance: 'My baby', 'Stay here' and 'New Guy' are confirmed to be the ballads. there is also four more tracks that may be confirmed. 1)Bet u want me Lead vocals: (New Member, Carmit Bachar and Ashley Roberts) 2) Why lead vocals:(Jessica Sutta, Nicole Scherinzger, Kimberley Wyatt) 3)Me n u 4ever Lead vocals: (Melody Thornton,Ashley Roberts,Nicole Scherzinger) 4)Dolls Lead Vocals:( All of pcd)

 Ashley, The new Member, Nicole Scherzinger and Melody Thornton will be the girls who have the most vocals in the order that is written.  

The album will feature various artists: P.Diddy, Christina Aguilera, Lil' Kim, timabaland, Fergie, Will.I.AM

There is a rumor that Christina will appear on two songs one with more then 1 pcd and one with Melody as Melody and christina has similar voices.

This album is said to hopefully become bigger then there first album, PCD as all the dolsl will have vocals.

[edit]  ?

What has happened to the page? All the lists have been removed and it looks generally untidy! JJH1992 20:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion Over The Current Edits.

I'm posting this message in order to prevent further reverts on this article. I would like to discuss why JJH1992 keeps reverting Mel Etitis. If the version by Mel Etitis is the proper article format, why bother reverting it? JJH1992, what is the point of changing the article to a non-standard format? Acalamari 19:00, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe my version looks tidier, and also the picture looks better than the terrible one that used to be used. Mel Etitis is forever reverting my edits without even looking, its very annoying. JJH1992 19:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Even so, if your revision doesn't go with the standard format, why go against the proper format? I must also point out to you that you've reverted us three times in the last few hours: 1, 2, 3. Acalamari 19:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

JJH1992's rationale seems to be that his taste overrides Wikipedia guidelines, policies, and standards; I'm afraid that it doesn't. He also refuses to explain his edits, or give sources for substantive changes — and the images that he uploads are too often wrongly licensed, unsourced, etc., as in this case. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 20:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, which is why I started this discussion. I'd like to know why JJH1992 is editing like this. Continual reversion and uploading of unfree/wrongly licensed images are reasons to block a user. JJH1992 has to stop this; he's already been blocked multiple times before for edit warring and failure to discuss his edits. Acalamari 20:33, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately it seems as though he's determined to be blocked yet again. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 21:47, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Repertoire

I propose reinstating the list of recorded and live cover versions, and would like to throw this open to discussion: (a) I think the point of the examples is to illustrate a relationship between the Dolls current repertoire and their burlesque roots. Their inclusion of so many '50s-'60s "jazzy" tunes with vamps shows this "root", AND is distinctive, given that they are a mainstream 21st century pop group. (b) This may be a reason such a list is not in "comparable articles". (c) The list of recorded cover versions is complete and up to date (tracks from PCD, b-sides & bonus tracks). While the list of live cover versions may not be exhaustive, it does not claim to be (it says "includes"). (d) Yes, cited refs. for all the live cover versions would be good. --Design 08:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Much of this is OR. All that's needed, in any case, is some version of part what you say here, rewritten for inclusion in the article (if citations can be found); a list of songs is unnecessary. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 10:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree; we don't need a list. Also, as Mel Etitis said, citations need to be found. There is enough unsourced material in this article as it is without adding more. Acalamari 18:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asia Nitollano.

Does anybody have a source for her being the newest member of the Pussycat Dolls? The information about her is continually added, but no one is sourcing it? I've never watched Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search for the Next Doll, so I don't know if she is the new member, and even if I had watched the program, my mind is not a source for Wikipedia. Can anyone verify the information? Acalamari 18:57, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Oops!

I'm from the UK and have been watching The Search For The Next Doll. I've just accidentally read that Asia was the winner - it was a spoiler for me cos on the UK showings there are still 5 potential Dolls! There should be a warning on the article. CC 91 08:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Carmit Bachar

Has anyone edited this page about Carmit? I noticed that there are slips in there about her being a man half way through a sex change. That is unwarranted and inappropriate. So as a reader and user of Wikipedia, I was wondering if it was going to be fixed, or if I could fix it? Weegirl21122206 16:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)Weegirl

A vandal added that nonsense in. CandeeJ reverted the vandalism. Thank you for your concern. :) Acalamari 16:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Single Infoboxes

I've added pictures to the single chronology of the single infoboxes. It took me forever so If they are removed I will be most displeased! CandeeJ 16:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Info box

Does anyone else think the info box looks terribly untidy? Nobody else's bad page has the members comma-separated. I'm starting a discussion. I'm going to change it to User:CandeeJ's version. Anybody have any thoughts? JJH1992 11:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

First, you're simply wrong about other pages; how many have you looked at?

Secopndly, it's in any case irrelevant how many other pages get it wrong; the use of commas, lower-case letters, etc., is both MoS and WikiProject style. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 16:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

• JJH1992, I have given you links to Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians and Template:Infobox musical artist. Why do you continue to take the page out of the WikiProject format? All because other infoboxes are wrong is not a reason to change it; the only reason other band infoboxes are wrong is because no one has corrected them yet. Acalamari 18:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Fever" Suggestion

In the live covers section it attributes the song "Fever" to Peggy Lee. The song, though a staple of Lee's career, was originally composed by Otis Blackwell. It initially was recorded by Little Willie John, and only later became one of Lee's hits (after she added more lyrics). So this is a cover of a cover, and perhaps should be credited to another person.

Roosellclause 05:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

The link in this article goes to "Fever (1956 song)" which cites both Blackwell and John. Peggy Lee's version was the "crossover" hit that turned the song into a standard. The Dolls' version is closer in arrangement to Lee's than John's. So, I think the current wording in this article is sufficient.--Design 09:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fanmade Picture in the Infobox

Would someone please remove this fanmade picture from the infobox. That's definitely fake because
1. the dolls don't call themselves "The Pussycat Dolls" anymore, they dropped the "the" since "I Don't Need a Man"
2. the "The Pusscat Dolls" line is identical with the line on the cover of PCD
3. this "Double the Trouble" line looks so selfmade
4. where's Asia? I thought she's part of the group so why isn't she on this photo from "June 2007"?

[edit] Split?

Should we split the pages for the dance troupe and the R&B/Pop act? JJH1992 15:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sections and infobox.

In accordance with both Template:Infobox musical artist and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters), I have sorted out the infobox and lowercased certain letters in the sections. I am not trying to get on anybody's "good side" or anything like that; I am simply following the guidelines and formats. Acalamari 18:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too soon to add new Category?

Was wondering if perhaps it might be too soon to add a "one hit wonder" tag on this group? they pretty much fell off the map already. --Hourick 11:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe that tag is appropriate, as they've had more than one successful single. Acalamari 15:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Hourick you must be trolling. They have had 5 top 10 singles in the UK. --Design 10:12, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Asia has opted to go solo

Sources: http://www.startribune.com/459/story/1315777.html http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Roush-Dispatch/Cw-Tca-Sophomore/800018988 http://www.courant.com/entertainment/tv/hc-tca0721.artjul21,0,3019437.story

She has opted to go solo instead of joining the group.

Should all record of Asia be removed from the page, as she was never officially a member of the Pussycat Dolls? I can find no record of her actually performing or being with them other than on the night that she won "The Search For The Next Doll"

[edit] Sway

Umm, from lastime I checked, but wasn't '"Sway" a single from PCD? There's a video and stuff, why not make a WikiPage? Explode24 21:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC) (Australian time)

The song does have its own page: Sway (song). Was the Dolls version a promo only? --Design 13:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

This article and the Pussycat Dolls infobox have had "Sway" removed as a single. The Dolls' Discography lists it as a single. Which is correct? Was it a promo only? --Design 12:28, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kimberly Wyatt: Singer, Dancer, or Both?

Kimberly Wyatt's wiki-page states that she is nothing more than a dancer. Despite the fact that she does sing along with the other dolls in their live performances, albeit a very small vocal role. She is one of the most powerful dancers on the group, and arguably the most flexible but should we cut her short and underestimate her abilities? I believe that we should make Kimberly Wyatt's page say that she is both a dancer and a singer. It has also been noted that she will have a more prominent vocal role in the upcoming album. Also on her page it lists her "song genre" as Pop and R&B. Also in several of her interviews she states that she is both a dancer and singer.

And her page also gives the least detail, among the other members of the Pussycat Dolls, of her life. It doesn't mention her role in the dolls or her life as a doll. It also doesn't mention her role in the Starsky and Hutch movie. I believe that, seeing Nicole, Jessica, Melody, Carmit, and Ashley's pages are so detailed that we should improve Kimberly's page to be much longer and more detailed as well as try and find more links about Kimberly Wyatt and try finding some clues as to her vocal ability and her dancing ability.

Gaysinger15 10:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SPLIT!

I've split the page into the music group and the burlesque troup JJH1992 23:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Individual members' pages

The infoboxes on each of the Dolls' individual articles says they each recorded for Cheyenne/Polydor or Polydor 2001-2002. Is this an error copied from Nicole Scherzinger's infobox? As far as I am aware only Scherzinger had a label at this time, via Eden's Crush. --Design 00:53, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] La la la

The article is still not being frank about the fact that Nicole Schrzwhatever does most (more than 95%) of all the vocals (at least on the 1st album, and I would assume that the mics are off in the live shows as well). Hello? We're talking about a singing and dancing group that's really one girl singing and dancing and the rest just dancing, don't you think that should be mentioned somewhere? 88.112.6.32 11:14, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

• Melody and Carmit both have active vocal roles, and the dolls management would have us believe the other three sing. Untill a formal announcment is made stating Nicole is the only active vocalist, we will leave it as it is.

Candice —Preceding unsigned comment added by CandiceWalsh (talk • contribs) 23:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Best Friend?

Right under the headline "The Pussycat Dolls", the last line says "my best friend is ruth adu-baohen". That needs to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.203.119 (talk) 16:10, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

It was vandalism; I have reverted it. Acalamari 16:16, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The

It's The Pussycat Dolls, not Pussycat Dolls. Check the cover of PCD (album)! Tcatron565 00:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stupid request

I want to request citation for the fact that The Pussycat Dolls are an American band. It seems stupid but I think the citation would improve the article quality. --Kushal^{Click me!} write to me 03:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Black Eyed Peas

I'd just like to know why are the Black Eyed Peas under associated acts? LPMA (talk) 22:56, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reduce discography

I think the discography in this article is unecessarily detailed, and duplicates the information found at Pussycat Dolls discography. It should be reduced to more basci information. Any consensus on this?--Design (talk) 22:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I would support this change: the discography section here already links to the main article. I don't see why it's necessary to have the same information on two pages, especially when it's more detalied on one of them. Acalamari 22:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV?

"Pop superstar Britney Spears performed with the Dolls as a surprise guest for the birthday of her brother, Bryan Spears.[citation needed] "

Isn't it more NPOV to write Pop star, or Pop singer? And there's no source...--217.132.89.143 (talk) 23:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

You are right that it could have been worded better to make it comply with the neutral point of view policy, but since there is no source for that sentence, I've gone ahead and removed it. Acalamari 23:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Split

I separated the pop act and the burlesque troupe after finding an old article created a while back. I think it makes it easier to distinguish and separate. CandiceWalsh (talk) 20:19, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Your split, as it is now, is not an improvement in my opinion. I don't oppose a split per se, but I think you have lost some of the continuity in the history. Carmit Bachar made the transition from the Burlesque troupe into the recording group. My understanding is that the burlesque troupe stopped in 2003 and was "revived" in 2005 with the Las Vegas club show. Let's not forget that Pussycat Dolls is a 'brand' started by Robin Antin, with group members selected by Antin (& others) and hired as employees; they can exist as parallel entities ("franchises", if you will). Just because the recording group is more successful commercially doesn't alter this. Then we have the other diversifications of the brand, with "PCD presents..." TV shows, etc. These shows have minimal connection with the performers in the Burlesque troupe or recording group. Any split pages need to consider this.--Design (talk) 01:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Could someone please reinstate the infobox data about all past members such as Staci Flood? Thanks.--Design (talk) 12:39, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Updating the photos

I was just wondering if someone could change the first photo in the Pussycat Dolls page. Carmit is already out of the group to pursue a solo career and get busy with the Zodiac Show and some other things and Melody, a current member is not on that photo. Also, a nice photo for each of the Dolls' pages will be great, not the ones where they all look goofy.

I'm new so I have a lot more to learn lol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HalfCrazy (talk • contribs) 08:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi HalfCrazy, despite the outdatedness of the picture, it's the only free image we have of the Pussycat Dolls at the moment. You see, we can't use what are called "fair-use" images to depict PCD, as they are an active, living band. If you have an updated image that has no copyright issues, then by all means, submit it, but any non-free images or promotional images can't be used. Thanks for your understanding. Acalamari 16:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, okay, thanks, I understand. That's tough lol. Thanks for the help! HalfCrazy (talk) 15:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category naming

The article is titled "Pussycat Dolls", not "The Pussycat Dolls". In running text, the group is always referred to as "the Pussycat Dolls" (or just "Pussycat Dolls"), not "The Pussycat Dolls". Song titles are disambiguated as "(Pussycat Dolls song)", not "(The Pussycat Dolls song)". But then why are the related categories called Category:The Pussycat Dolls, Category:The Pussycat Dolls songs, etc? The natural Category:Pussycat Dolls songs is even a redirect to Category:The Pussycat Dolls songs, rather than the other way around. I propose to rename the categories in line with the article title, unless there are good arguments to the contrary. Hqb (talk) 09:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Given the absence of objections, I'm moving the relevant pages to the "The"-less naming scheme. Hqb (talk) 13:23, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I saw this when you first commented, and meant to post then. Yes, for the sake of consistency, I agree with the change. Acalamari 19:39, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

"Pussycat Dolls" is not the official name of the girl group. As "The Pussycat Dolls", as stated on Geffen Records Website and all others. It is the recording name and artist name of the Pussycat Dolls. So hence forth, I'd be on wait for a reply for 2 days, otherwise I'm changing the edits by Hqb back to "The Pussycat Dolls". Also, they wouldn't put (The Pussycat Dolls) as it is unnecessary for the word, "The". Keeping the copyright of the official and given name of "The Pussycat Dolls" would be rather appropriate. It is unknown why it isn't such (The Pussycat Dolls song) or such. But at the moment, it is quite obvious that this Category naming issue would be a bit of trouble. It is best to keep it back to the original and the artist' name of the group, "The Pussycat Dolls". Whether or not there would be a debate, this is and should be changed back to the official name of the group. Aireii (talk) 03:29, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Is PCD GOING TO REPLACE THE MEMBER?

no the pussycat dolls are not going to replace carmit also known as foxy doll. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.217.170.67 (talk) 18:04, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Article Vandalised - Please Fix

The article has been vandalised. Please Fix. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Attillia (talk • contribs) 08:59, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Reverted by Clark89. Thanks. Acalamari 16:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Doll Domination 2.0 / Revised Edition

This is to clear up the problems and questions people have about the album.

Doll Domination: released in septemeber 2008. As of may 2009 there are several different versions to be noted (do not get them confused)

1. Doll Domination: Standard version.
2. Doll Domination: Standard version with bonus tracks.
3. Doll Domination: Deluxe edition (includes bonus disk of individual doll's songs)
4. Doll Domination: Collectors edition (same as deluxe edition but with two bonus tracks also included).
5. Doll Domination: Revised version French Release, German Release. This IS NOT the same as doll domination 2.0. It is the original album plus the new songs recorded. notice that the cover is the same as the standard version
6. Doll Domination 2.0: this is released ONLY in Australia and is different to revised version HENCE it features a different cover. It is only currently available in AUSTRALIA. no release elsewhere has been official confirmed.
7. Doll Domination: The Mini Collection: was released specifically in the UK and is an EP-compilation of 3 songs from Doll Domination plus 3 new songs.

All of this information is sourced. please do not confused and alter the article. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 17:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Picture

I was just wondering if anyone could change the VERY outdated picture at the top of the page. i would but i don't know how. thanks! 71.238.193.127 (talk) 23:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Nicole Scherzinger is no longer with PCD

I heard that Nicole is no longer part of PCD. That is why, she is "featured" in the last 2 singles. Can we put Nicole as a "former member" and no longer a current member of PCD? Pinangjawa (talk) 12:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

There have currently been no good sources to confirm this, other than things said on blogs and gossip sites, and they're note reliable sourced. Acalamari 15:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Read Nicole's page where there is the career section and there is a reference to what her solo career and future with the PCD's is all about and she said in no way are they breaking up. Also she isn't featured the last 2 singles have been Nicole Scherzinger ft. The Pussycat Dolls and I'm pretty sure that's the way that the label is trying to expose her for her solo career because she is recording new material soon for her debut. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solotwilight (talk • contribs) 02:30, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] hush hush the final pcd song ever?

i've read rumours on various blogs saying that this will be the dolls last single ever and are splitting after the release due to the others being really annoyed about nicole's preferential treatment by the record company. is this just rumours, or is there any truth in it? thanks guys Mister sparky (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

As with the section just above this one, there have been no reliable sources to confirm anything about Nicole Scherzinger leaving or the Pussycat Dolls breaking up: those have only been mentioned on blogs and gossip sites, which aren't reliable sources. Acalamari 23:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Former members section

I'm concerned about the "Former members" section: it's very long, was recently added to, but contains nearly no sources whatsoever. I'm tempted to delete it, but I expect someone to just re-add it without explanation, much like with the unnecessary discography that kept getting added to the "Nicole Scherzinger" article. As a result, I'm discussing this here first. Thoughts? Acalamari 18:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

This section has been without proper references for some time, though the Playboy article should not be too hard to source a proper ref. I think the information is relevant to an encyclopedic article of this type, though the format could be altered to take up less space. I recommend you move the unsourced info to this discussion page until sources can be provided.--Design (talk) 05:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

i am going to take the decision to remove the former members section by Sunday 23 August 2009, because several months on from its tagging there has been no attempt/no success in sourcing this section. It will be moved on to the discussion page instead.(Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:00, 17 August 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Dolls alter egos

I think that every Pussycat Doll has their own Doll name. Although in live performances, only Melody who says that she is "Baby Doll" but it is also noted that others have their Dolls name too. As far as I known, their names are:

Nicole = Queen Doll Melody = Baby Doll Jessica = Pin-up Doll Kimberly = Flexy Doll (early name= Punky Doll for her punk hairstyle) Ashley = Angel Doll

although that the rest of them didn't introduce themselves in recent tours, I think that those names are their Doll names.

[edit] Dolls alter egos

I think that every Pussycat Doll has their own Doll name. Although in live performances, only Melody who says that she is "Baby Doll" but it is also noted that others have their Dolls name too. As far as I known, their names are:

Nicole = Queen Doll
Melody = Baby Doll
Jessica = Pin-up Doll
Kimberly = Flexy Doll (early name= Punky Doll for her punk hairstyle)
Ashley = Angel Doll

although that the rest of them didn't introduce themselves in recent tours, I think that those names are their Doll names. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forestlicious (talk • contribs) 15:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

none of this is sourced - it is just random trivia and therefore cannot be included. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 18:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC))

[edit] August 2009 - Break-up rumours

A REQUEST FOR ALL USERS:

please can we be aware of the rumours flying around about the pussycat dolls splitting up. several well-trafficked websites have reported this: Digitalspy, Perezhilton amongst others. can we be:

1. vigilant that it is not added into the article - its is contentious on-going issue.
2. wait patiently to see if an official STATEMENT is released from the group and/or Robin Antin and/or Interscope records. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 15:47, 2 August 2009 (UTC))

It appears that the group will be staying together after all. it has veeb widely reported by VIRTUALLY ALL music blog sites even perezhilton and Digitalspy that the group's third album is in production. Robin Antin (founder of the group) also forwarded this message on her official TWITTER Page. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:02, 8 August 2009 (UTC))

[edit] IMPORTANT AUG 2009 - Article Changes

Please can you voice your opinions about the removal of the following:

1. Pussycat Dolls#Solo careers
2. Pussycat Dolls#Politics
3. Pussycat Dolls#Former members.

I am planning to move those sections on to the dicussion page by Sunday 23 August because little attempt has been made to address the issues and really their inclusion is of questionable relevance and/or there are sourcing isssues. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC))

Yes, I agree with that: the sections are hardly sourced, and don't even have good sources at that. However, we'll have to make sure the articles on the members themselves are updated to be consistent with this one, otherwise some people will just re-add what you're suggestiong should be removed. Acalamari 20:42, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I think a brief solo careers section, and the former members section are both relevant, but of course they need sources. The politics section is irrelevant as it is based on a throwaway one liner joke.--Design (talk) 10:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced Memebrs

As per consesus, the former members section is now on this page:

burlesque group

• Robin Antin (founder and choreographer, 1995-2005)
• Christina Applegate (founding member, 1995-2002) (promoted the group's appearances for Maxim)
• Linh Le (founding member, 1995)
• Joie Shettler (founding member, 1995)
• Carla Kama (founding member, 1995)
• Bethany Chester (founding member, 1995)
• Lindsley Allen (founding member, 1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
• Etty Lau Farrell (1995-1997) (left the group to join the band Jane's Addiction as lead dancer)
• Carmit Bachar (1995-2003) (able to make it on the music group)
• Cyia Batten (1995-2003) (able to make it on the music group)
• Kasey Campbell (1995-2003) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial) (able to make it on the music group)
• Kiva Dawson (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
• Erica Gudis (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
• Antonietta Macri (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
• Erica Breckels (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
• Katie Bergold (1995-2001) (featured in June 1999 Playboy pictorial)
• Staci Flood (1995-2003) (rumored to have made it on the music group but refused to join after founding the "Bombshell Babies" with Carmen Electra and Nadine Ellis)
• Gwen Stefani (2000) (became the first celebrity guest Doll whose performances with the group gained them much fame and popularity)
• Carmen Electra (2001-2003) (lead vocalist in most performances during late burlesque period) (vocals in the Dolls' early recorded versions of "Fever"^[1] and "Hey Big Spender"^[2] ) (cameos in "Hush Hush; Hush Hush" music video)
• Christina Aguilera (2002) (became a guest Doll and promoted the group's appearances for Maxim)
• Nadine Ellis (2001-2003) (founded burlesque group "Bombshell Babies" with Carmen Electra and Staci Flood)
• Rachel Sterling (2001-2002) (joined the Las Vegas Pussycat Dolls troupe in 2005)
• Andre Carra (2001-2002)
• Erika Le (2001-2002)
• Chelsea Rafanan (2001-2002)
• Rebecca Pickering (2001-2002)

recording group

• Carmit Bachar (2003-2008) (also in Burlesque period) (left for a solo career)
• Cyia Batten (2003-2005) (also in Burlesque period) (appears in "Sway" music video)
• Kasey Campbell (2003-2005) (also in Burlesque period) (appears in "Sway" music video)
• Staci Flood (2003) (also in Burlesque period) (cameos in "Don't Cha" music video as the black-haired seventh member dancing with the Dolls)
• Kaya Jones (2003-2004) (joined along with Nicole and Melody) (vocals in "We Went as Far as We Felt Like Going" & "Sway" on PCD.) (appears in "Sway" music video as a main member with Melody and Carmit) (left before the PCD album was launched)
• Asia Nitollano (2007) (performed twice with the Dolls on the Pussycat Dolls Present: The Search For the Next Doll finale and The CW 2007 Upfront Party. The Dolls were supposed to cover the song "Lady Marmalade" to officially welcome Asia to the group as a new vocalist but it is not publicly known if she left for a solo career before doing the recordings or was dismissed from the group)

it can be re-added one-by-one as a source is found, e.g. if a source confirms the info. (Lil-unique1 (talk) 20:53, 25 August 2009 (UTC))

I heard on the radio recently on September 04 that they had officially broken up. It could be just the radio or more rumors but it said it on the radio so I don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.234.184.240 (talk) 21:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Opening para

I posted this at User:Journalist's talk page:

Hello, Regarding your recent edits to Pussycat Dolls- Kaya Jones was in the recording group and her vocals appear on at least 2 tracks on PCD, so under your criteria she qualifies as an ex-member. Secondly I think you should discuss at the talk page your recent revert of the opening para. I think the franchise description is accurate and we should avoid stating or inplying that th recording group is the only entity. I agree that it is currently the primary entity.--Design (talk) 09:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Antin did NOT negotiated a record deal

I disagree with this line: "After attracting national attention, Antin eventually negotiated a record deal with Interscope Records in 2003..." Carmit Bachar was friends with Gwen Stefani and Gwen later brought Interscope to the Pussycat Dolls show. So it should be something like "former member Carmit Bachar eventually negotiated a record deal with Interscope Records..."

Also, in 2003-2005: Casting and musical debut, the order of the singing roles should be like in the album credits: Nicole Scherzinger, Carmit Bachar, Melody Thornton, Jessica Sutta, Ashley Roberts, Kimberly Wyatt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beep90 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Rumored line-up change

I've just removed an addition sourced by Twitter that stated that Kimberly Wyatt had left and somebody called Jennifer Beckett has joined the group. Is there a better source to confirm this than Twitter? Acalamari 16:20, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Neither Digital Spy or Hollywood Gossip have anything about Kimberly's departure from the Dolls, though on the website PCD World, there's a video of Robin's interview in which she says that "expect new faces" and "we'll lose some of the old dolls" (or something)--David (talk) 18:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)