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[edit] Citation needed for what?Why does this sentence need a citation? "Bands such as The Smashing Pumpkins and Tool fused psychedelic rock sounds with heavy metal, becoming highly successful alternative rock acts in the 1990s." I'm going to remove it since I don't think we need a citation to prove that Smashing Pumpkins and Tool both use tremendous amounts of production effects and employ extended or untraditional song structures for some of their songs. TorbenFrost 20:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC) [edit] Small, but loyal cult?I really don't think the listeners of psychedelic rock are small or a cult =\ changing this. [edit] Singles?This section contains songs that were never singles. Should we change this section name to Songs instead? Kurrgo master of planet x 18:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC) [edit] Erm, Black Sabbath?Their first album is hardly Psychedelicx... i'm removing it Steve [edit] A few commentsOk, 2 things... about the beach boys, the page reads: "In 1966, responding to the Beatles' innovations, they produced their album Pet Sounds..." this isnt really true... in fact, pet sounds inspired the beatles more than it was inspired BY them. pet sounds came out before sgt peppers and was the main inspiration behind it, according to mccartney and george martin. mccartney says that pet sounds is his all time favorite album and "god only knows" is his favorite song. also, perhaps the page should discuss the similarities between the beach boys and the beatles, and what these traits meant for psychedelia (use of string/orchestra arrangements, extensive multitracking, lots of harmonies, etc). Yes but the Beatles Rubber Soul influenced Pet Sounds first. Pet Sounds is not really a Psychedelic album anyway. Whereas Revolver uses psychedelic influences backward guitars, exotic Indian drones, tape loops as well as avant Influences like "Tomorrow Never Knows". Rubber Soul shows Psychedelic influences in Rubber Soul with tracks like the "The Word" and sitar driven "Norwegian Wood" which predates Pet Sounds. Pet Sounds is more known for it's arrangements but it's more related to Baroque pop which the Beatles flirted with "Yesterday" in 1965.
another thing.... "The psychedelic influence was also felt in black music" This paragraph only really discussses the influence on soul/r&b... psychedelia had a big impact on funk as well, as sly and the family stone were pretty much a part of the psychedelic movement (they were, after all, woodstock performers). psychedelic artists also had a big impact on reggae. bob marley and lee perry had been fans of psychedelic rock and their collaborations (prior to marley's signing to island records) show this influence. lee perry's later work in dub had lots of psychedelic influence, with the use of lots of multitracking, experimental recording/miking setups, samples, and hendrix-esque effects such as delay lines and phasers (lots of dub effects had been used a ton in psychedelic rock; the phaser pretty much came from psychedelia as it was derived from the ADT that ken townshend and john lennon came up with).
should i edit some changes?
Changed "...and recently invented "trippy" electronic effects such as distortion..." to "...and "trippy" electronic effects such as distortion..." because most trippy electronic effects have been around in one form or another since (at-least) the 1950s. "which contains the track 'Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds', the initials of which spell out LSD" -- band members have specifically denied this is anything other than a coincidence --user:Daniel C. Boyer
Odd that someone picked "Pictures of Lily" as an example of The Who's psychedelia when much more familiar examples such as "I Can See for Miles And Miles", "Magic Bus", and the "Underture" from Tommy are ready to hand. B.Bryant 16:02 Dec 26, 2002 (UTC) Well, that got quick results, so now let's try the Rolling Stones. I'm admittedly not very familiar with their early material, but I'm surprised that nothing on Their Satanic Majesties Request is mentioned as a part of their psychedelic contribution. B.Bryant 16:37 Dec 26, 2002 (UTC)
By whom? I have never heard psychotic used as the name of a musical style. This may be a joke. --- Ihcoyc
I hope nobody minds my "Music Samples" bit. I'll (hopefully) develop it more in time and implement it into other genre pages. The samples are from Amazon.com - should I upload them to WikiMedia? Also, how do you align the graph with the top of the text? -Archagon 22:35, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Streamlining and cutsYou'll notice that I cut some details for consolidation, streamlining, and balance of detail. IMO there is still too much about the Beach Boys: though the material is relevant, it's far out of proportion to the brief mention everyone else gets. If we want more detail then IMO we should add some sections for them. For example, we could move the musical characteristics to its own section and then give a list of "classic" psychedelic songs that illustrate each one. As for band-specific details, we could add a section with per-band subsections, but IMO that is best left to the bands' own pages and the list of psychedelic music artists. — B.Bryant 23:22, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC) [edit] psychedelic vs. acid rockwhat is the difference between acid rock and psychedelic rock? the acid rock article itself only redirects to the psychedelic rock article.
I remember this exact same debate back in 1967. My opinion is they were two names for the same music. Labels like these are usually concocted by the media and are purely arbitrary in nature. Seems the debate itself is now rock history. Aimulti (talk) 08:44, 11 April 2008 (UTC) ""I remember this exact same debate back in 1967"" if you were there you are not supposed to remember it. I cannot find musicologists that distinguish acid rock from psychedlic rock. I agree that acid rock article should be merged into here, a redirection put in and a clear explanation added.--Sabrebd (talk) 10:33, 20 January 2009 (UTC) [edit] Floyd misrepresentedFirst a disclaimer: I'm a Pink Floyd fanatic so if this comes off as a little whiny, my apologies. For those of you maintaining this page, you should look into this a little more closely. I'm somewhat taken aback at how Pink Floyd is presented on this page as an afterthought. In the UK, the psychedelic movement was an underground thing for several years before exploding into the mainstream, and Pink Floyd was often considered the most prominent band in that movement (this was long before they were famous.) They were sometimes thought of as the "house band of the psychedelic underground." Their shows contained many firsts that were later used by other bands, including the use of oil slide projections. They were also pioneers of stage lighting and augmenting on-stage performances with unusual audio effects. It's likely that a lot of famous bands like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones took a few cues from Pink Floyd (some of these band members were sighted in the audience of early Floyd shows.) In some respect, Pink Floyd got the ball rolling in terms of British psychedelic music and led the way. To see them tagged on to the end of a paragraph here as "also representative" is a massive discredit to what they did. As to the previous comment about Pink Floyd, whoever you are I agree with you. Why don't you add some pink floyd info in?
[edit] ToolTool is at the forefront of modern psychedelic rock experimentation. But oddly no one mentioned Tool, so I put a little sentence about them and a link. Most bands such as Grateful Dead aren't really psychedelic they were just over glorified pop idols from the 60's. Tool ar not at the forefront of anything except pretentious neu-metal. They have a lot of dork fans and therefore a large internet presence but nothing to do with psychedelia aside from the marijuana intake of their "cult". I'm no deadhead but to say they were just pop idols is ridiculous. Albums like "Anthem of the Sun" are surely psychedelic and live they were quite experimental and LSD-experience-oriented. If any band is over-glorified (while simultaneously laughed at by those outside the cult) it is the dour, monotonous Tool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.252.245.212 (talk) 05:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nirvana?First of all, Love Buzz was a cover. Secondly, is it really psychedelic? I wouldn't say so. [edit] Sgt. Peppers ReferenceIf we are going to say that Sgt. Peppers was a poor example of 60s Psychadelic Music (which it was) why are we even mentioning it in the article.
sgt. peppers is not a very important psychedelic album. important, yes, but not for psychedelic rock. piper, surrealistic pillow, are you experienced?, easter everywhere... and many more albums are more notable psychedelic albums than sgt. peppers. --Violarulez (talk) 03:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC) [edit] Oh come on!"While the first musicians to be influenced by psychedelic drugs were in the jazz and folk scenes" should presumably say "the first twentieth century musicians", as musicians have probably been finding ways to get out of it ever since music first happened. Anyway, late 19th century Ottoman music was heavily influenced by hashish, as was Rebetiko in the 20th Century... The Real Walrus 23:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] ContradictionsThis article states that sgt Peppers was the first psychedelic album. That is a common mistake; the first album, that could be call "psychedelic" (in rock music at least) is the beach boys "Pet sounds". The article even claims that the last one was influenced by the beatles, when it was released before sgt peppers, and Mc cartney himself acknowledge the influence of "pet sounds " on sgt peppers.
actually first album was by the 13th Floor Elevators was the first psychedellic album. It's even called "The Psychedellic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators". How about The Deep? Pat Kilroy? The Byrds? Alan Watt's "This is It" from 1961 is considered by many the first psychedelic LP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.252.245.212 (talk) 05:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Rest of the worldAdded information about the dutch band Group 1850. It is quite lonely right now, we should try to find other non-US/Britain Psychedelic bands. Reko 23:23, 17 June 2006 (UTC) [edit] Need more music samplesJust one sample is not representative of all psychedelic music. At least some Pink Floyd, Peppers-era Beatles, or Jefferson Airplane is essential. --68.107.44.241 03:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC) One group that seems missing here is Canada's Mahogany Rush, with Frank Marino who proclaims himself as a psychedelic rocker in a promo video: The first two albums came out in 72 and 74 and Maxoom and Child of the Novelty fit the bill exactly, check out the cover of Child of the Novelty. Dwaink 03:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC) [edit] Why is there a whole section on the Beatles?Why is there a whole section on the Beatles and not one on bands that were probably more influential on psychedelia than them such as Pink Floyd and Jefferson Airplane. First Revolver was released in August of 1966 and "Tomorrow Never Knows" was recorded in April of 1966 when Pink Floyd released their first record in 1967. Jefferson Airplane Surrealistic Pillow was released in Feb of 1967 the same month the Beatles overtly Psychedelic "Strawberry Fields Forever". So the Beatles basically helped put Psychedelic Rock before Pink Floyd and Jefferson Airplane. Sgt Pepper was more influential to Progressive Rock and Art Rock —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydfloyds12 (talk • contribs) 21:41, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
The bealtes are in NO way the most psychedelic or influential to psychedlic music. pink floyd, jefferson airplane, the byrds, 13th floor elevators... and much more are more psychedlic. and psychedelically influential --Violarulez (talk) 03:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC) [edit] ReferencingThis article is verging on the edge of communal Original Research. It needs some references and sources to support and justify the whole thing. Are there any books or articles on this genre? SorrowD 17:18, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Album cover artWould it be useful to discuss/add album cover art as an important section of this article? http://www.tim-rose.co.uk/music.htm#bigthreelive is a possible early consideration(63') and there are tons of covers afterwards that might lend themselves to an understanding of what the genre was all about. --Dwaink 02:01, 27 July 2007 (UTC) [edit] Focus on psychedelic "rock"Parts of this article seem to focus on psychedelic music as a whole instead of psychedelic rock in particular. There are many occasions where the terms "psychedelic music", "pop music" or "psychedelia" are used instead of psychedelic rock. Therefore I suggest the article (most importantly the characteristics section) be trimmed and its focus narrowed. ...Superfopp 14:06, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jefferson AirplaneThey should be added somewhere in here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.20.103 (talk) 19:50, 28 November 2007 (UTC) [edit] The Brian Jonestown MassacreDefinitely considered a major group in the 1990s Psychedelic Rock revival...they deserve a mention, especially since band member Rob Campanella's two other bands (Beachwood Sparks and The Tyde) are on there. Notice the band's Wiki, they should be added by someone that's good with editing (not me). Also check out that list of "Descendents" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Jonestown_Massacre —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.232.33 (talk) 17:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
The Brian Jonestown Massacre is overtly psychedelic andwcouldn't be considered shoegazer except on there first album. In addition to that, there are dozens of past band members, many of whom have gone on to other quite psychedelic bands all taking a little of BJM's influence. If Smashing Pumpkins and Tool get a mention along with all that electronica than the BJM, there affiliate's and I would like to add The Dandy Warhols should get at least a paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.64.31.2 (talk) 02:13, 13 February 2009 (UTC) [edit] Paragraph OrganisationIt makes sense to make five main sections - 60's; 70's; '80's; 90's; and '00's. The 'Australasia' para should be cut down and included in the rest of the world. I'd actually go futher and suggest that sub-paragraphs should deal with sub-genres rather than regions. The Gong Family of bands stretches over five continents, for example. I could add a decent overview of the '70's before the neo-psychedelia section, which is coherent with the '80's, of course. Tim flatus (talk) 10:13, 30 March 2008 (UTC) [edit] Psychedelic 70'sI added an overview. Open to comments. Tim flatus (talk) 22:37, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Psychedelic Rock In EnglandI found this section very poor and lacking in any knowledge of the topic other than citing the most famous albums and artists. Omissions include: - No discussion of how Folk Rock evolved into Psychedelic Rock. No reference to the clubs that initiated the Psychedelic revolution, namely Middle Earth, The Arts Lab, UFO and the Roundhouse. No reference to the artists and the lightshows like Marc Boyle. No reference to the major role disc jockey, John Peel played. (Almost single handed exposing the music) No reference to the pirate radio stations. No reference to the hard core Psychedelic bands like Hawkwind and Arthur Brown No reference to International Times (IT) and Oz magazine. I would like to rewrite this section but it will require major work to fully reference. Aimulti (talk) 11:22, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
"Psychedelic rock in Britain, in common with its American counterpart had its roots in the Folk rock genre. In much the same way that The Great Society and the original Jefferson Airplane were electrified folk bands, the same was true of early psychedelic bands in the Britain such as Fairport Convention". - sorry to say there is a serious misunderstanding here. Fairport were not an electrified folk band, they were a folkified electric band, at most they flirted with Psychedelia. Much as I am a fan I have removed them and tried to put together a paragraph from the references to folk and folk rock. I will try to add more references when I can --Sabrebd (talk) 16:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Neo-PsychedeliaI just did a major rewrite of this section: reorganised into a better date order, checked links and added a whole lot more information. I'm aware of its shortcomings, so please feel free to improve upon it. Tim flatus (talk) 23:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
OK. Trying again, line-by-line. I have started by re-arranging the paragraphs to give a better chronology and made a couple of corrections. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tim flatus (talk • contribs) 20:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Psychedelic rock in the United KingdomI have started on the re-write of this section. It is a work in progress and I will add more references over the next few days and expand it to fully cover the topic. (Editors) Please allow me a little slack (a few days or so) as referencing all assertions takes considerable time. Aimulti (talk) 08:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC) [edit] Criteria.I've noticed lately a lot of people don't regard songs without drug references as psychedelic songs. This is completely wrong, lyrics and the band's use of drugs are not the only criteria to define a song as psychedelic (like when someone in the acid rock discussion page that Pink Floyd are not a psychedelic rock band because they don't use drugs (which is wrong too, but never mind). Another example is the song The Fool on the Hill, which is not considered here a psych rock song (I've added the genre to the list but it was removed, the rational being that it contains no drug references). --~Magnolia Fen (talk) 07:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Hesitation BluesQuote: "...the first use of the term "psychedelic" in popular music was by the "acid-folk" group The Holy Modal Rounders in 1964, with the song "Hesitation Blues"...." Are you sure that this is a serious information and and not a widespread but wrong information by lysergia.com? I found the complete lyrics here: Holy Modal Rounders - Hesitation Blues and there is no "psychedelic" and there is also nothing like "...I got my psychedelic feet/In my psychedelic shoes/Oh lordy momma/I got the psychedelic blues..." as quoted at lysergia. I have only listen to a 30 sec. sample of "Hesitation Blues" and it seems the lysergia lyrics belong to a completely different track and/or artist. Does anyone have serious information about this (or much better heard the complete track)?--77.25.46.178 (talk) 11:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
OK, I just listened to it. The lyrics in that first link appear to be correct and complete. He does indeed mention psychodelic feet in psychodelic shoes towards the end of the version. Tim flatus (talk) 15:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
I added a reliable reference for this, which should put the issue to bed.--Sabrebd (talk) 11:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [edit] Citations and CleanupI'd really like to get rid of the Refimprove and Essay-like Flags at the top of the article. This page has changed considerably since Dec 2007. We have two unresolved facts:
Can we think about re-writing these if references can't be come by?
Beyond that, it might be useful to get a more experienced editor to have a look over the page and point out what kinds of statements need cleaning up and places that additional citations would help at this point. Or indeed whether the flags can be regarded as out-of-date now. Do any of the other currently active editors need more time before we put out for more critical advice? I'm up for trying to nail these references. Tim flatus (talk) 13:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC) [edit] Freakbeat vs Psyche? (+Jimmy Page with experimenting with Bow first!?)Why is there's no mention of freakbeat in this article (I think that's important as it was the genre that bridged Beat and Psyche)? I would like to know what the difference is between Freak and Psyche. Atm I'm the only way i'm differing the 2 is that Freakbeat most of the time has stormy drums, The Who-like guitar chords and an R&B beat, feedback, fuzz, distortion, chaos and mayhem. But sometimes it can be really fuzzy if it's freak or psyche (or Garage Rock). Also wasn't the guitarist from the archetype freakbeat band The Creation earlier with experimenting guitar with a bow? Another question, the term freakbeat was conceived 20 years later before then, what they call it? I heard Mod Psychedelia, but I've got my doubts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loempiavreter (talk • contribs) 07:40, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
I've heard that before though in an article I've read about Freakbeat, is that Freakbeat ain't an reaction on a reaction but a mere evolution. Garage Rock is an reaction on the Beat & R&B sounds of britain, but Freakbeat is an evolution on that. So I doubt it's the British equilivant of the US Garage Rock. An Top 30 Freakbeat Article also had songs listed from my country, The Netherlands, Iceland, Ireland and even an American band stationed in Germany. Just let me take a few songs considerd Freakbeat: http://media.putfile.com/The-Buzz---Your-Holding-Me-Down---FREAKBEAT http://media.putfile.com/The-SyndicatsCrawdaddy-SimoneFreakbeat http://media.putfile.com/Wimple-Winch---Save-My-Soul---FREAKBEAT http://media.putfile.com/Mickey-Finn---Garden-Of-My-Mind---FREAKBEAT http://media.putfile.com/Alan-Pounds-Get-Rich---Searching-in-the-Wilderness---Freakbeat VS the Garage Rock Sounds: http://media.putfile.com/The-Unrelated-Segments---The-Story-Of-My-Life---GARAGE-ROCK http://media.putfile.com/The-Magic-Mushroom---Im-Gone---GARAGE-ROCK http://media.putfile.com/The-Pleasure-Seekers---What-A-Way-To-Die---GARAGE-ROCK http://media.putfile.com/The-Ugly-Ducklings---Nothin---GARAGE-ROCK http://media.putfile.com/The-Castaways---Liar-Liar---GARAGE-ROCK I find the sound to different to call it British Garage Rock. Freakbeat have storming wild drumming, more guitar experimentation and is overall more crazy (also I've heard a few Freakbeat songs experimenting with a horn section). Garage Rock on the other hand is more RAW (and most the time have some scream, which I will dub the Garage scream for now), amateurish. Seems the Freakbeat songs follow a "My Generation" (by the Who) song structure, http://youtube.com/watch?v=YdRs1gKpeGg , or maybe the song itself is an mostly uncredited Freakbeat song but the wild storming drums and the song going crazy at the end, though Wiki states it as "Hard Rock, Rock, pop, R&B"? Loempiavreter —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loempiavreter (talk • contribs) 15:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
[edit] and 2000s?I don't think this article should go there. George Harrison's death is a really good place for the History to stop. Surely both QotSA and Wolfmother are notable in heir own ways. I don't care who was the most successful, I want to know why they are relevant to psychedelia. PS: If English isn't your first language please use a spell/grammar checker and try to write in the same tense as the rest of the section. I don't mind editing it when I get time, but I'm likely to be fairly ruthless. Some editors would simply revert it. (this comment particularly refers to some other recent edits) Tim flatus (talk) 13:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC) [edit] Animal Collectiveis not part of the Elephant 6 Collective. (although I can see how the names are misleading). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.66.251 (talk) 06:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Led Zeppelin!Where is Led Zeppelin in this article??? they were a major psychedelic band in their early years especially!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.206.40 (talk) 18:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I also agree with Peter. Though I, personally, consider Dazed and Confused and Misty Mountain Hop to be acid rock (a psych sub-genre), not many other people do, and I can understand why, and as far as their other songs go, I have no idea how they could be considered psychedelic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.115.212 (talk) 22:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC) [edit] SleepIt is Impossilbe to go to sleep with this kind of music. Marshall T. Williams (talk) 00:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
listening to songs like 'saucerful of secrets' and 'interstellar overdrive' help me go to sleep. i really enjoy it. :) --Violarulez (talk) 03:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC) [edit] The SynThere's been a wave of editing activity around The Syn and Steve Nardelli, including a certain amount of dispute. Some 'third parties' with expertise in psychedelic music would be valuable if anyone would like to come on over. Bondegezou (talk) 17:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC) [edit] Floyd influencing Sgt. Pepper??There's a mention that The Beatles and Floyd were influencing each other on Sgt. Pepper and Pipers @ the Gates. Is there any valid source that can be cited to back this up? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.138.214.116 (talk) 21:20, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Guitar SoloThis is where the guitar solo came from maybe an Idea to mention it in the article? --84.85.201.54 (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2009 (UTC) Not true. I've heard guitar solos dating back to the 1940s. Zazaban (talk) 07:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC) [edit] MergeI have added merge tags to the page. These articles are all over lapping and contradicting each other. I'm not sure I would classify either Neo-psychedelia or Psychedelic_pop as distinct and different genres from Psychedelic rock. This article needs massive amounts of clean up and work. I propose both sub categories be redirected here and this article be heavily edited and re-written. Ridernyc (talk) 12:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC) Oppose I don't think neo-psychadelia should be merged. These are different topics with extensive information. They can easily be separate articles.George Pelltier (talk) 17:11, 18 June 2009 (UTC) Oppose; I don't think Psychedelic pop and Psychedelic rock should be merged. The two are distinct and different genres; in essence they are as distinctly different as Pop and Rock are, it just happens to be the psychedelic aspect of those genres that we're talking about. As such, merging the two would be like saying that Black Sabbath operate in the same genre as Herman's Hermits. There's a world of difference between Psychedelic rock bands (like the Blue Cheer for example) and The World of Oz (who were Psychedelic pop) for example. I do, however, agree that there seems to be a lot of crossover and contradiction in this and other related articles, and that they all need a good clean up. Kohoutek1138 14:28, 21 June 2009 (UTC) Waiting for sources to back up the statements people keep making. Ridernyc (talk) 14:24, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Oppose, with vigor and determination. I admit that drawing the line in some cases will be tough, but it's got to be done. Would you call When the Music's Over by The Doors "Psychedelic Pop"? No way, it's "Psychedelic Rock". As for a tune like Itchycoo Park by the Small Faces, that's much more of a "Pop" tune with strong elements of the "Psychedelic" thrown in, both in the lyrics and the early phase-shifting sound. Both Wikipedia articles label them correctly; they are distinctly separate genres. Case closed, in my opinion. (Note: this is copied and pasted by the author from the request for discussion on this topic, we seem to have more than one discussion going.) Jusdafax (talk) 07:36, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Oh, and to directly answer Jusda's example above, I'd call each of those songs (along with dozens of others) rock music, period. Rock has a huge variety of styles and variations; trying to parse them all is counting angels on pinheads. Jgm (talk) 16:06, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough, Jgm, and your enhanced opinion and obliging moderation is noted. Thanks! Awaiting further opinion. Jusdafax (talk) 22:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC) [edit] Flanging versus PhasingThe author states that Itchycoo Park is the first song that uses "flanging". My understanding is that a flange is a device the bends guitar strings. Phasing is where two identical tracks are played just slightly out of time from each other to create a kind of white noise sound. There is an American pop single called The Big Hurt by Miss Toni Fisher from about 1960 that uses the same effect so it couldn't have been invented in 1967. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NerdyMcNerdstein (talk • contribs) 21:23, 20 August 2009 (UTC) You are right about phasing. Flange is an electronic effect that mixes two signals. I think perhaps you are confusing this with a vibrato bar on a guitar (confusingly often called a trem or tremolo bar), which bends the strings. Such bars have been around since at least the 50s, but flange was new in the 60s, so the reference is probably correct.--Sabrebd (talk) 22:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC) [edit] InfluencesPsychedelic Rock had a pretty heavy influence from soul. If you listen to Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, and Vanilla Fudge, there is a noticeable undertone of Soul. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.86.35.196 (talk) 23:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC) | |||||||||||||||||||
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