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Is it a Living street or a woonerf? On the Dutch radio they told that in the English Language there isn't an english word for this. See Woonerf and nl:woonerf. 84.31.63.205 22:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- The English technical equivalent of the woonerf is the Home Zone Maplefanta (talk) 08:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
This article is very pro-"living street". It needs to be rewritten. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.153.156.221 (talk) 18:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- –I completely disagree. this article is describing the theory of a living street and does so in a very neutral fashion. i have removed your dispute of neutrality. Maximilian77 (talk) 02:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
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- The NPOV policy states "It is important to remember that the NPOV dispute tag does not mean that an article actually violates NPOV. It simply means that there is an ongoing dispute about whether the article complies with a neutral point of view or not. In any NPOV dispute, there will be some people who think the article complies with NPOV, and some people who disagree. In general, you should not remove the NPOV dispute tag merely because you personally feel the article complies with NPOV. Rather, the tag should be removed only when there is a consensus among the editors that the NPOV disputes have indeed been resolved." Learn to read. 205.153.156.221 (talk) 22:44, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Do you actually know any planning concepts that would not be 'pro', it is pretty particular about the profession. Woonerf concept is pro-woonerf, Shared Space is pro-shared space, eco-city is pro-eco-city and etc.. That tag does not really have any uses in here unless someone wants to play a childgame. Maplefanta (talk) 08:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Merge with similar concepts
I'm pretty sure the concept of a "living street" and "shared space" are identical but are split across borders. The shared space article mentions an entire village/subdivision in the Netherlands where the concept is applied but doesn't mention that many other small sections in the netherlands use a similar concepts. Woonerf is a set of regulations in the Netherlands for this particular type of traffic-calmed zone. "Living street" is a design standard and "shared space" is the synthesis between the regulations and the (non-)road design. All of these concepts deserve more mention and differentiation on the traffic calming page; they are alternatives to speed humps, tables, bumps and such. The concept of complete street is in many ways the opposite of living streets, but is also traffic calming. Serious cleanup and organization is needed before neutrality should even be an issue. Don't have a semantics war; somebody pick a name for this new but unified concept. 75.161.90.113 (talk) 20:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- The concept associate better with Street Reclaiming, The Shared Space is quite a particular innovation. All these concepts (Woonerf/Home Zone, Zone 30, Street Reclaiming, Living Street, Pedestrianisation, Shared Space) are all particular elements or philosophy under the umbrella of Traffic Calming AND City revitalisation. Maplefanta (talk) 08:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- The lead paragraph of this article (Living streets) suggests that this concept contrasts with the Shared space concept in its treatment of motorists:
A living street is a street in which, unlike in most 20th century streets[citation needed], the needs of car drivers are secondary to the needs of users of the street as a whole. It is a space designed to be shared by pedestrians, playing children, bicyclists, and low-speed motor vehicles. This contrasts with the shared space scheme philosophy which gives all road users equal priority in community spaces.
- I would be very concerned if the beautifully egalitarian concept of Shared space was tainted by associating it with a concept where "the needs of car drivers are secondary to the needs of users of the street as a whole". -- de Facto (talk). 21:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
