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This article was nominated for deletion on 26 April 2008. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

Contents 1 Soft Redirect? 2 Suggest redirect 3 Concur, this page should redirect to m:List of Wikipedias 3.1 I apologize if this is a dumb question 4 Updates needed 5 Other languages 6 A contradiction 7 Giving a more accurate impression 8 Links to en-wiki articles about specific wikipedias 9 Mergefrom Romansh Wikipedia 10 Faroese Wikipedia 11 Basque Wikipedia

[edit] Soft Redirect?

Perhaps this article should just be {{softredirect | meta:List of Wikipedias}}

That page has much more information than this article, and seems to serve the same purpose.--Absurdist

Strongly disagree. That page is not a part of the English wikipedia encyclopedia while the subject is notable enough for inclusion as an encyclopedic article, SqueakBox 19:25, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

If the article were to be expanded to include all Wikipedias, and their statistics, it would virtually be a mirror of the meta page.--Absurdist 20:37, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Well that would be an issue for the meta page, SqueakBox 16:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

How so? --Domthedude001 05:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggest redirect

If the stats aren't going to be updated and most of the articles will never grow past stub-length, we may as well redirect this to {{Wikipedias}} or meta:List of Wikipedias. Teh Rote (talk) 20:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I think this has already been argued and rejected at this article's AfD. The consensus, I believe, is that the proliferation of Wikipedias (not just Wikis) is a notable enough phenomenon to not be self-referential and to deserve a presence here. If anything, I think the consensus leaned toward just removing the stats, since no one updates them anyway. Ford MF (talk) 20:47, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

That is rather short-sighted. Roughly 85% of the articles on Wikipedia language editions are one paragraph or less. It just doesn't work. Teh Rote (talk) 13:25, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Concur, this page should redirect to m:List of Wikipedias

Why not have one list of wikipedias that always up to date?

Perhaps a disambiguation page, linking to m:List of Wikipedias and Category:Wikipedias by language. Teh Rote (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I apologize if this is a dumb question

but how do we know that http://s23.org is a WP:RS? Bwrs (talk) 03:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Updates needed

I think this list needs updating. I followed the link to the Marshallese Wikipedia only to find it discontinued (I do not speak Marshallese; I just did this out of curiosity). Also, are not some entries on this list separate dialects, rather than languages? Take for example the entry "Simple English" - could we really describe this as a separate language to English? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Some one really ought to scrutinise this list - there are other language editions beneath that of the Marshallese Wikipedia which have now closed, such as Herero. 92.3.154.33 (talk) 19:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other languages

Although this list shows that there are many language editions of Wikipedia,there are still some languages which yet to have a Wikipedia - for example, the Lakota language is not on this list. Any offers to start a Lakota Wikipedia? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:29, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

See meta:Language proposal policy and http://incubator.wikimedia.org which currently lists Lakota at http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lkt. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:12, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A contradiction

The bar chart of Wikipedias by article number contradicts the list. This bar chart displays number of articles from German to Swedish, but omits Russian, which according to the list,should be between Portuguese and Swedish.

[edit] Giving a more accurate impression

Just having this list is misleading. Perhaps it should be grouped into those "Wikipedias" that do have enough articles to be considered encyclopaedia, those which are now closed (see my above comment), and those which have less than 20 articles? The Choctaw Wikipedia currently only has 15 articles and an English comment that this is the place for you if you think it would be "cool" to have a Wikipedia in Choctaw; this could hardly be considered a useful encyclopaedia, unlike those Wikipedias in the Top 40 listed here. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 22:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

In fact, it seems that of the Wikipedias from Choctaw downwards, i.e. the twelve bottom entries - only one - Cheyenne -appears to be open and active. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 00:23, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

==Are these really all up to being called "Wikipedias"?

I read somewhere on the web that the Volapuk Wikipedia is mainly stubs, created by a bot. Do you think that this would be a "Wikipedia"?ACEOREVIVED (talk) 22:16, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Links to en-wiki articles about specific wikipedias

Maybe this list should contain links to the articles like English Wikipedia, German Wikipedia, etc? Jonah (talk) 08:30, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

did it. TalkChat (talk) 23:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Mergefrom Romansh Wikipedia

Romansh Wikipedia was recently voted to be redirected here. However unlike a number of fairly nonnotable and unreferenced wikipedias, this one actually has some referenced info. Please accomodate this list to include such bits and pieces of verifiable text which is not enough for aa full separate article but nevertheless may be encyclopedic. - Altenmann >t 18:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Alternatively, just redirect it here, as was decided in the AfD, when all the info that was currently in the article was already there. Not everything that is verifiableis notable enough to be included in Wikipedia, no matter if it is in a separate article or in a list. Ignoring this AfD result in such a blatant manner is not the way to go. Take it to the closing admin or to DRV if you disagree, but don't just start a new discussion elsewhere to get what you like. Fram (talk) 07:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Of course, not everything is notable, but the creators and the source of financing (by state!) is cerainly not a nonnotable trivia. Please be careful with loud words, such as "blatant". I can use them myself: "blatant deletion of notable and verifiable encyclopedic information, bla-bla-bla". On the contrary, I presented a reasonabe trade-off solution: I am not against a redirect, but only after a notable information is preserved. And what is wrong with getting what I like? You also want to get what you like. I hate to believe that you like deletion of relevant, verifiable and referenced information. What is more, I am aware that it is not just beween you and me. Therefore I started this discussion where non-random people may help. I also mentioned this issue in Template_talk:Wikipedias#Romansh_Wikipedia. If you know where else to post a notice, please do so. (I don't care whom will you address: inclusionists or deletionists). - Altenmann >t 03:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

We already had this discussion, it was the AfD. You are trying to get a different result by starting a new discussion. We have a process for this: WP:DRV. This was pointed out to you already. And I don't consider editors inclusionists or deletionists unless they declare themselves to be one or the other. Most people don't correspond to one of these labels. And I don't consider the names of the editors that started a non notable Wikipedia version as notable. Anyway, I've merged the rest of the info and redirected it again. Fram (talk) 07:18, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for finding a good solution for how to merge. I was stupid to think that the only approach was to expand the table, that's why I did't do merge myslef. Your idea to use footnotes is very good and well-suited for small pieces of info. - Altenmann >t 17:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

No problem, your insistence on keeping the info was correct as well, but I didn't see the solution earlier. Fram (talk) 06:26, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Faroese Wikipedia

Where is the Faroese Wikipedia? I can't find it in the list or in the box at the bottom. This Wikipedia is often execluded from lists of Wikipedia, can somebody make sure it is to find here and there? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.212.64.51 (talk) 22:32, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Faroese Wikipedia is in the list but not in the box at the bottom. There is some discussion about which Wikipedias to include at Template talk:Wikipedias. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:26, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Basque Wikipedia

Hi from the Basque Country!
This is a message to the administrators of wikipedia in English or for someone who can help me with this issue:

I´m an user and contributor of the Basque Wikipedia., Basque language is one of the oldest in Europe and the world, it has thousands of years old and is one of the few languages that survived the arrival of Indo-Europeans to Europe. Perhaps being one of the oldest nations or countries of the world not even have their own state, but our language is our homeland and pride. It put us on the map and give a reference recognizable to English speakers, the city of Pamplona (Iruña in basque language), where they celebrate the internationally famous festival of San Fermin are in the Basque Country.

After this brief introduction I would kindly ask you this request:

On July 15, 2009, in the Basque wikipedia we exceed the figure of 40,000 items, today (August 8, 2009) and we have 42,000 items, achievement of which we are very proud, because if we compare proportionately the number of speakers of the Basque language (about a million) with other spoken language Wikipedia in more than one state or nation in the world with millions of speakers is like to be proud.

Because one of the aims of Wikipedia in addition to expanding human knowledge worldwide is also to expand the knowledge of all languages of mankind: From the Basque Wikipedia We wanted to make the request to the users and particularly to the Admin of the English wikipedia would be possible if you put the link to Basque Wikipedia in your English Wikipedia´s language list of everyone in your main cover ("Languages" section: as is currently the case Galician or Catalan language) and the Wikipedia list of more than 40,000 items that is below your main entrance page ("Wikipedia languages" section). Since English is currently the most powerful, influential and widespread in the world (your wikipedia already has 3,000,000 articles), the presence of Basque Wikipedia in your list of the world would be a great help to supervival of our language and their knowledge in the world.

Awaiting your reply.

Greetings from the Basque Wikipedia.
. --Euskalduna (tell me) 15:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.86.101.120 (talk)

Hello. You might want to take this to Wikipedia talk:Village pump, as I don't think many people watch this page. Miremare 15:51, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Miremare.

--Euskalduna (tell me) 15:05, 26 August 2009 (UTC)