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[edit] Karma in popular culture

Is there any place in this article for references to this, e.g. the TV show "My Name is Earl"?

Dorfird (talk) 03:15, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps trivialities have no place in an encyclopedia? rudy (talk) 14:40, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

One man's triviality is another man's raison d'etre. Thus what may seem a triviality to you does have a place in an encyclopaedia, and even more so in Wikipedia. I do not feel passionately about this issue, but if anyone wishes to include information on "My Name is Earl" in the article I feel it should be welcomed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.43.230 (talk) 23:33, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Karma and family

• What is Family Karma?
• Family Karma The Hidden Ties That Bind
• Five Buddha-Family Traits in Daily Life: Gelug Anuttarayoga Tantra and Karma Kagyu Mahamudra Presentations

there should be something about this topic within the article's page, I think. Maybe it needs a new section.

Austerlitz -- 88.75.71.123 (talk) 10:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Not in my opinion, one can write aticles on every social aspect and how it relates to karma. Next would be 'karma and relationships', 'karma and work', 'karma and children', 'karma and politics' etc.; the list would be sheer endless.rudy (talk) 22:45, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Let's have a look at the content of those links. What is family karma?

• "Life is a series of choices. Choices lead to actions. Actions carry consequences. Action plus consequence is what we call karma. The results of many of our actions affect not only us, but others as well. The consequences of many of our grandparents' and our parents' actions reverberate in our lives today. In this book [article] we will use the term "karma" to refer to our ancestors' and our own actions and the consequences that necessarily follow. A lot of karma spans three or more generations. That is why we call it "family karma."

"At one level, nobody questions this truth: If you kick a dog, it will yelp. If you treat people badly, you can expect them to respond in kind. But karma operates at many levels, and the consequences do not always immediately follow your actions. Karma can pass down through a family from generation to generation. That is to say, one generation after another may repeat a pattern of actions and suffer or enjoy the inevitable consequences that follow those actions. Indeed, we are responsible for much of our karma, but we can also inherit karma from our ancestors or from a past life."

"In our clinical experience working with hundreds of patients, we have found three sources of karma that each of us must address in order to reach our fullest and highest soul potential: individual, family, and past-life karma."

Austerlitz -- 88.75.82.164 (talk) 11:27, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

According to my understanding the article as it is refers to personal karma only. It therefore should be expanded.

Austerlitz -- 88.75.82.164 (talk) 11:32, 9 April 2009 (UTC) ==

[edit] References

Hi everyone I am deleting footnote 4 in the reference section. It appears to be the product of an earlier version and refers to its source simply by the last name of the author and a page number, no title, no year of publication. As such it is impossible to locate the source. Furthermore, that sentence has multiple footnotes. However, if someone feels this was important material please let me know. --Luke Warmwater101 (talk) 01:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out, I think it did originally come from somewhere else. Mitsube (talk) 03:42, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Analogs of karma

In Analogs of Karma, this appears to be a personal statement rather than one based on sound logic, Drinking poison is not a consideration of karma. Karma concerns the cognitive dissonance behind an action which would coerce one to voluntarily drink poison. It is best if this section is deleted or rewritten. Sealpoint33 (talk) 02:30, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, the Analogs of karma section was unreferenced commentary that had not been sourced for over a year; I have deleted it from the article. I noticed that you have added a new section on Karma and emotions to the article. Unfortunately, it seems that the section is based on synthesis of quotes from various primary sources and it is not clear that those sources are explicitly commenting on Karma and emotion. As such this section may not be appropriate for wikipedia, unless secondary references linking the words of Jung, Mipham, Tagore, and research on emotional intelligence and mindfulness meditation, to the concept of Karma are found. Can you try to find such references and rewrite the section based on their content , so that the new section can be retained ? Abecedare (talk) 02:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Karma vs Faith

In the opening paragraphs we see:

   'Karma' is an Eastern religious concept in contradistinction to 'faith' espoused by Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), which view all human dramas as the will of God as opposed to present - and past - life actions. 

More about how the "will of God" is distinct from present/past life actions would be nice here as it isn't clear what "will of God" means in the general context of "Abrahamic religions." Perhaps there are other pages which could be referenced that cover that topic?

What keeps the sentence from being reworded as:

   'Karma' ... refers specifically to present - and past - life actions in contrast with 'faith' espoused by Abrahamic religions which couples the will of God with those actions. 

Either ways more references are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.137.250.81 (talk) 20:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

"Faith" is not the converse of "Karma." Faith is a concept that exists in all religions at some level as they all contain concepts that are not empirically verifiable. Hindus, for example, take the existence of karma as an article of faith. What the first paragraph is attempting to address is the concept of predestination/determinism vs free will. This is a complex subject and there are differing theories among the sects of the Abrahamic faiths. Most believe there is some level of free will in human action and in the inevitability of facing the consequences of our actions at some point. Calvinism rejects free will. Where there is a clear difference between the eastern (Hindu/Bhuddist) and Abrahamic faiths is in how the consequences of our actions are believed (as a matter of faith) to affect the spiritual progress of the soul after death. The Abrahamic faiths do not include the option of reincarnating and reexperiencing the physical world. See wikipedia "predestination" AShipway (talk) 04:11, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Karma is not only defined by our thoughts and actions but also by the attitude that accompanies our actions. The reason why we are acting. Even if one does a good action with a bad attitude, the end result is bad karam. The best form of action is nishkama karma where in one just does ones best in every situation irrespective of what the outcome is. It is not important to win every battle but it is important to try your best to win it.