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[edit] Regarding Infobox

In the infobox, it says "Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico". The section of an infobox relating to a person's title, I believe, should include a legal title, as opposed to one that Norton placed upon himself. If ol' Jimbo called himself 'Dark Lord of the Universe', and that title was not legally upheld, then that title could not be put in the infobox of his article, imho. I ask that my point be reviewed, and a change made to the information in the infobox if my statement is concluded to be valid. Thank you in advance.EasyPeasy21 (talk) 08:50, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Largest Issued Note?

The article text says notes ranged from fifty cents to five dollars. The accompanying picture depicts a ten dollar note. At least one of these is incorrect, though I don't know which. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.140.113.126 (talk) 17:21, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


READ MORE CAREFULLY —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.215.188.140 (talk) 01:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Being crazy & homeless merits a Wikipedia entry?

Just wond'ring, since that is what we are talking about here. Okay, he was amusing enough to gain some local attention and indulgence, but we are still talking about a crazy homeless guy. If this page should exist, there should be a page for every crazy homeless guy who claimed to be something. The difference between this "emperor" and the homeless guy I met a few years ago who was convinced he was George Custer would be.......what? 72.155.127.84 (talk) 23:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

The difference is the number of books and magazine articles that have been written about him...
  • Barker, Malcolm, E.; Jump, Edward (January 2001). Bummer & Lazarus: San Francisco's Famous Dogs : Revised With New Stories, New Photographs, and New Introduction. San Francisco: Londonborn Publications. ISBN 0-930235-07-X. 
  • Caufield, Catherine (1981). The Emperor of the United States and other magnificent British eccentrics. Routledge and Kegan Paul. pp. 150-152. ISBN 0-7100-0957-7. 
  • Cech, John (1997). A rush of dreamers : being the remarkable story of Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico. New York: Marlowe. ISBN 1-56924-775-7. 
  • Cowan, Robert Ernest. "Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico (Joshua A. Norton, 1819-1880)" in Quarterly of the California Historical Society. San Francisco: California Historical Society, October 1923.
  • Cowan, Robert E. et al. The Forgotten Characters of Old San Francisco. Los Angeles: The Ward Ritchie Press, 1964.
  • Dressler, Albert (1927). Emperor Norton, life and experiences of a notable character in San Francisco, 1849-1880. San Francisco: A. Dressler. LC CT275.N75 D7. 
  • Drury, William (1986). Norton I, Emperor of the United States. New York: Dodd, Mead & Company, Inc. ISBN 0-396-08509-1. 
  • Kramer, William M. (1974). Emperor Norton of San Francisco : a look at the life and death and strange burials of the most famous eccentric of gold rush California. Santa Monica, California: Norton B. Stern. ASIN B0006CF3KO. 
  • Lane, Allen Stanley (1939). Emperor Norton, Mad Monarch of America. Caldwell, Idaho: The Caxton printers, Ltd. ASIN B00086ATPC. 
  • Ryder, David Warren (1939). San Francisco's Emperor Norton. San Francisco: Alex. Dulfer Printing and Lithographing Co. LC CT275.N75 R9. 
Clear? But I do think it's ironic that this is a Wikipedia article about a crazy homeless man from San Francisco, which is known today for it's problems with crazy homeless people. Thanks for point it out.--Paul (talk) 00:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Your homeless man has not been an inspiration to artists and other such types for decades going on centuries; there is nothing noble about your homeless man. When I read the Principia Discordia, or the Sandman story, I am unaccountably touched to the quick - I feel I have seen some small portion of the human condition treated. Your homeless man just needs treatment. --Gwern (contribs) 00:18 11 October 2008 (GMT)
Yet you yourself possess a page here to explain that you are a 'guy who's too old to play with computers' yet inexplicably lists his main achievements to date as playing with computers, without any hint at originality, greatness or popular acceptance, only a hint of psuedo-intellectualism framed in techno babble, which still is grammatically incorrect. Maybe craziness is the assumption of fascination with mediocrity, so maybe just crazy merits a home(page) too, no? As for your appreciation of irony, not to mention basic empathy, perhaps less time on the computer, more time in school may be the best service you could provide to crazed monarch or crazed wet-brained president alike, homeless or otherwise.

[edit] Notes

Who printed his banknotes - or were they hand made? Also, I heard that during his time, souvenir tourist memorabilia (small statues, etc.) were made. Can this be confirmed and illustrated? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 22:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Micronation?

Why is this article part of Wikiproject Micronations? Nutiketaiel (talk) 12:52, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Got me. You should probably ask John Carter... 14:15, 2 October 2007 John Carter (talk | contribs) (67,271 bytes) (FA class for Micronations) (undo) --Paul (talk) 16:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Clarification of mental state

From the current article it is not clear whether Norton was mentally ill (although the between-the-lines impression is given). Other explanations would be possible based on the text, notably that this was a successful gimmick that gave him a decent quality of living at low cost, or an elaborate joke.

A clarification would be beneficial to the article (if there is no consensus, then this should obviously be mentioned more explicitly, instead). 94.220.241.104 (talk) 13:02, 1 December 2009 (UTC)




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