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ARCHIVED: May 7, 2009 Editing session Hilbert/Physics/Relativity with Jwy, Salix, Wvbailey, Pie are round, concluded with the revision of a paragraph under category "Physics" concerning Einstein, Hilbert, and the 1915 development of the field equations of General Relativity. --Pie are round (talk) 18:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hilbert in the 1930's

Hilbert is said to have made a pro-Nazi remark in the 1930's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.139.179.195 (talk) 17:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

That has been suggested before, but I've never seen any sources of it. Do you have a good source? (John User:Jwy talk) 17:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
See Constance Reid's biography, mentioned in the "Secondary Literature". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.232.88 (talk) 10:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
There was a plebiscite in Germany on the 19/8/1934. A pro-Hitler declaration appeared in a German paper,
made by German scientists, on the previous day. Unfortunately, I have no access to copies of German newspapers, going back to
18/8/1934.See http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0505235 Hilbert is not mentioned as being one of those refusing to make a
pro-Hitler declaration.
The link didn't work for me -- the paper doesn't exist? Bill Wvbailey (talk) 14:06, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree, that the link does not work directly. Search arxiv.org for "Ivan Todorov" and you might find his paper on Heisenberg. A PDF is involved, which might account for the difficulty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.82.116.138 (talk) 13:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but WERNER HEISENBERG mentions Hilbert directly only as Courant's colleague. I couldn't see any indirect mention, although I may not have read closely enough. Since it appears to be a notable exception when a professor avoided the Hitler salute, I suspect Hilbert participated in that - but that is as notable as saying he kept his job. But thanks for pointing to that site. A lot of good information there. (John User:Jwy talk) 18:06, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

See "Hilbert" by Constance Reid, published by Springer-Verlag, in 1996. On page 207 it says, "An election was scheduled for August with the alternatives, yes or no. The day before the election, the newspapers carried a proclamation announcing that Hitler had the support of German science. The list of signatures included the name of Hilbert. Whether Hilbert actually signed the proclamation is not known." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.148.69.11 (talk) 12:13, 13 July 2009 (UTC) I think the same passage appeared in the 1970 edition of the biography of Hilbert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.148.69.11 (talk) 12:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

An uncertain signature among a long list that did not reflect (as it indicates later in the paragraph) his apparent core beliefs does not, in my opinion, warrant mention here unless the context is made very clear - which would take some careful research and writing. There is no sign that he was an active supporter of the Nazis. That someone in Germany didn't resist openly is not really notable. Resistance seems to have been rather limiting in many ways - and he did complain about the loss of his Jewish colleagues. (John User:Jwy talk) 19:06, 13 July 2009 (UTC)



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