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[edit] Initial comments

Right so like I typed in "buttsechs" (just for the hell of it) and it redirected me here. So is this seriously the truth guys? Will buttsechs cure cancer ;0?! --Kingkitty 13:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

well i've started this page by adding brum's continueing contribution so you may all expand this page as you wish! :) Nick Boulevard 23:25, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Nick, you are right that this page was sorely lacking, but I've had to change the style radically. Many of the things you said were (overly) dramatic.

A different point: what fuelled your statement that "Birmingham" (do you mean the university?) is at the forefront of cancer research? By what measures? By citations in Pubmed? By impact factor? By breakthrough medical discoveries? By Nobel Prizes? JFW | T@lk 02:48, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi JFW,
I do over-dramatise sometimes (maybe it's a good way to get quick response on area's i know little about, abit naughty sorry) anyway no problem with your edit of course, i included Birmingham in the sense that the university has had several breakthrough medical discoveries, and it's continuation in research is at a cutting edge level. I included the links to hopefully provoke someone to further expand the article, of course other cities across the world are doing the same job but Birmingham is definately at the forefront. Could the links somehow be re-attached please, thanks. Nick Boulevard 19:05, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Well, you've certainly managed to get a response! :-)

I've reinserted a link to CancerResearchUK, not deeplinking to Birmingham but just showing what kind of cancer research is being performed. I'm still not convinced Birmingham should be awarded prominence over, e.g. Howard Hughes in Oregon, Sloan-Kettering in New York and Dana Farber in Boston. JFW | T@lk 21:09, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Ok that's fine, i am being lazy really, i will try and work out just what Birmingham has done and is doing to continue research against cancer and include it if relevant but i am sure the city is very advanced in this field, can you do the same for the people you have suggested? then we might have the begginings of an article, Cheers. Nick Boulevard 22:31, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Uhhh, Nick, those are not people but research institutes. When it comes to praising the achievements of Birmingham, we have to be watchful for NPOV. At the moment I am not aware of an annual contest on which cancer research institutes have forged the most breakthroughs... JFW | T@lk 00:05, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

"Howard Hughes in Oregon, Sloan-Kettering in New York and Dana Farber in Boston." - sorry, i imagined bearded men (and women?) boffins sat around tables stroking their beards and debating the ethics of animal testing in research! My ignorance i'm afraid, and do you know what! I've not yet looked at NPOV once, i don't know what it is? (i have a guess) well i will take a look..erm.. NOW! thanks. :) Nick Boulevard 23:33, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I am the communications assistant(kfowler@cancerresearch.org) at the Cancer Research Institute, a non-profit dedicated to research in cancer immunology. We believe we should have an article as there are many other Wikipedia article that mention us, yet we have no article of our own. We were founded on the premises of William B. Coley's work, have a close relationship with the Ludwig, and relationships with many acclaimed scientists and institution. Please help us create this article, as we would like to remain neutral. You may contact me with help in finding references, photos, etc. --CancerResearchInstitute (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Not Just Treatment

The article seems to be concentrating on the research into treatment but a lot of research also is about the external causes of cancer like cigarette smoking or sun exposure. i.e. research is not just about treatment, but also prevention. Can we add something about that? Barrylb 10:20, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

In view of my above comments, I would like to change the opening paragraph to this: "Cancer research is research into cancer in order to identify causes and develop strategies for prevention, diagnosis, treatments and cure." This is based on the statement at the Institute of Cancer Research at http://www.icr.ac.uk/aboutus.html Does anyone have an opinion? Barrylb 10:13, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Go ahead, be bold! InvictaHOG 10:28, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Concerns about Cancer Research

This sub section is not really relating to the artical as a whole. This area is merely placed to discuss a discovery of a particular molecule. Perhaps this is entry is better placed in its own entry dealing with volumes or potentail cures and unsubstantiated claims. Pkelley83 07:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC) Patrick Kelley

I created an outline to organize what we have and promote the addition of more information. I believe the categories (Areas (Cause, Treatment, Prevention), Issues, Orgs.) are all on topic, define the scope, and will address both the listed issues of 'too treatment focused' and 'POV issues regarding institutions.' Now we just need people who know more of the specifics to fill it in. gallen01 14:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Could we add a section about some of the controversies related to cancer research? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.158.191 (talk) 19:53, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

Perhaps a disambiguation should be created and add Cancer Research as one of the publications from the AACR Andy Rosenthal 07:32, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suppression of Cancer Cure

Cancer has been cured completely at least 15 times by various scientists since the 1930's, to present. However, CEO's and executives for pharmaceutical corporations whom value their own wealth, posessions, and luxurious lifestyles more than they do the lives of hundreds of millions of people, order contracts to be placed on, and carried out on all of the scientists lives, including their family members, and even young children. So their multi-million dollar per year personal salary can continue. This can be commonly associated with greed, evil, and atrocity. It is misconceived that history's most prolific mass murderers and monsters are people like Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Mao Zedong, and Caligula, whoms cold-blooded murders numbered in the tens of millions. But the truth is that the leaders of the medical establishment are really the world's greediest awful, and most horrific human beings ever to live. Every one of the scientists who have cured cancer has died mysteriously. Usually in "car accidents", 'drug overdoses", "heart attacks/strokes/anyeurisms", and "suicides".

^ This is the kind of thing that discredits Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.104.40 (talk) 09:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Research

I'm not an oncologist and feel unqualified to edit this article, however, there has been new research published that I don't see here. Timothy Ley of Wastington University interviewed on NPR's Science Talk of the Nation 11/7/2008 about having sequenced a cancer genome using new, cheap technology called Next Generation Sequencing. They sequenced a case of acute myeloid lukemia. The research revealed new genes that had never been suspected of participating in the genesis of cancer. It will help to customize treatment of patients and improve prognosis, as well as advancing treatment research. 52 types of cancer have been targeted for future sequencing. Rdanneskjold (talk) 06:52, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia doesn't care about qualifications it only cares about WP:reliable sources. That said, you are ready to improve this article since you have a source to back up your claims.

Overall, I feel that this article has a long way to go before it starts to cover this subject in a satisfactory manner. I still plan to add all the major points put forward by the Newsweek article. EconomistBR 20:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Right, I just don't feel confident enough in my use of medical language to write a contribution worthy of an encyclopedia. - Rdanneskjold (talk) 01:40, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Prevention Term

I'm not sure how to categorize the vitamin prevention method under the prevention category. For now I put it as other methods, but is there a more formal term? --CancerResearchInstitute (talk) 15:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Cancer Miracles Article

Here is a new article, published in Forbes, on cancer immunology that may be of interest to any of you editors who care to learn of new and promising research in the field Cancer Miracles - Forbes. A lot of the scientists mentioned, and their research, don't seem to be in wikipedia. --Kelstar (talk) 21:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Source

Might be useful:

Hahn, William C.; Weinberg, Robert A. (2003). "Rules for making human tumor cells". New England Journal of Medicine 348 (7): 1593–1603. PMID 12432047.

rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 03:16, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Treatment Section

I removed the Expand-section macro from the treatment section of the article and put in a pointer to the treatment section of the main Cancer article, which is pretty good. The area of cancer treatment is quite rich, it's a hot topic, and I think deserving of its own page. This would make page link construction easier and allow for growth without weighing down the massive cancer article (now at 122kb). What do folks think about cutting 'cancer treatment' free into its own page? (and apologies for the bad puns ;) SteveChervitzTrutane (talk) 18:11, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

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