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[edit] Merge Proposal

Oppose. Wow, that was fast. My intention here is to split the Barangay page into the modern entity (still at Barangay), and its now-extinct Pre-colonial predecessor, which was a very different entity. (The structure of the present entity is much more similar to the Hispanic Barrio than it was to the pre-colonial Barangay.) I would have wanted to creat a page entitled Prehispanic Barangays, but that name's list-like nature would be confusing. I have to admit, though, that I'm sitting here with two or three textbook references on the matter which I am still digesting - my act of expanding this article will take time. It will be faster of course if others help, but due to the rarity of relevant texts, Early Philippine History is a rather specialist field, so it may be difficult for me to recruit. So...I'm hoping this article will have the time to grow and prove itself worthy of being its own entity. -- Alternativity (talk) 16:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Comment.Sigh. I suppose I'm being unimaginative in the choice of names again. I would support a move of this article to Barangay (something), but I am having difficulty coming up with one.

• "Before 15xx" would be inaccurate, as the spanish conquista proceeded gradually and we have no date to refer to as marking the end of the indigenous Barangay pattern in favor of the Spanish Barrio structure.
• "pre-colonial entity" or "before hispanization" seem awkward to me.

So basically I'm saying I feel a renaming is better than a merge, if we want to take such action. -- Alternativity (talk) 16:57, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

• I was going to support the merge, but if you can add enough info (especially elaborating on the differences between the present and historic barangays), I am cool with the 2 separate articles. -- P199 (talk) 16:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

• Suggest 1 disambiguation at Barangay and two pages Barangay(pre colonial) and Barangay (modern)

Rather than changing the name of the current article to Barangay (modern) if the merge is not done, I'd suggest the addition of a hatnote using one of the {{otheruses}} templates. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:01, 19 August 2009 (UTC)