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[edit] Problem 1

I have a big problem when i edit in wike english

i want to write this but there is one party that not edit . I don't know why.

It' is in history i write it Kahina called his son Ifran. And few of them was christian.

Ibn Khaldun, say Ifran are berber , he don't say any thing to concerne their religion.

Some contemporary historian like Emile Félix Gautier in his french book "Siècles obscurs du Moghreb" , he say Zenata was very wild people. Some historian say the Queen Kahina was a Judith ^[1] [1]^[2] [2].--Great11 (talk) 17:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

Before Islam

Ifran are Like Zenata, animism was the principale spirtitual philosophy inspiration of this big tribe. Ifri is a deity [[Berber] [3].

The translation or borrowing latin gives us Africa (Africa) which was a goddess Berber before the Roman conquest. Dea Africa means goddess Africa and represents a symbol to the Roman era.

And Ifri means local populations of Afers. Ifru symbolizes rites in caves to protect businessman. there is a cave not far from Constantine et Guechguech, it represent the rite. and Roman show the myth of protection in their money . [4]^[3] [5].

When Arab army attack Maghreb. the Ben Ifran were the first tribe to defend their Queen Kahina.^[4] [6]

During Islam

Ben Ifren was opposed to Arab army ( sunnit and chite). They choise Kharidjit mouvement. Ibn Khaldun say: Zenata people say we are muslman but they still opposed to Arab army. ^{[5] [6]}. After 711, the berber were very serious to pratctice Islam religion. The prinipale leaders of Ifren were all time opposed to Arab army ( Abu Qurra, Abou Yazid, etc) ^[7]

please help me thanks --Great11 (talk) 17:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problem 2

this is a big problem

REFRENCE 12  ?????????

 Archives des missions scientifiques et littéraires De France Commission des missions scientifiques et littéraires, France[8]  

in this page --Great11 (talk) 17:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I need help --Great11 (talk) 21:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I resolve the problem . I think , it's very good . I make lot of errors in this page sorry..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Great11 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 6 June 2008 (UTC)