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[edit] Aggressive soapboxing by Rand fans

This article merely serves to describe the book, its themes and its reception. It is not a place for Ayn Rand fans to score debate points. DO NOT revert my edits to the criticism section without first come here. Immediately following the opinion of a critic with an assault on their political affiliations is a clear example of weasel words.

Seeing as how this book might well be turning into a movie in the near future, and certain pundits have been pushing it as well, this articles importance looks set to rise. Lets have its quality rise as well and not let it be a soap box for Objectivists. GrampaScience (talk) 16:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC) But your weasel words are OK, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.95.241.57 (talk) 20:43, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

The Yaron Brook quote is an absolute joke. No, it doesn't "sound familiar" to anyone who isn't a Rand worshipper. Pure opinion. Get rid of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.205.104.34 (talk) 21:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Bioshock

There are many who believe that the computer game BioShock is influenced by this book ([1] [2] [3]) and I'm thinking this might be an explanation for the increased popularity in later years. If anyone has more reliable sources it would be nice to get it in the article, or perhaps you could phrase it as that there is "much discussion" around the subject if it has influenced the game. notwist (talk) 09:50, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

There is no question. BioShock's world is based around Objectivism and even contains a character who calls himself Atlas. But the only purpose it might serve to mention it here is as you say, "perhaps an explanation for increased popularity." That of course would need to be cited, but good luck finding a source. Aubreygrossman (talk) 15:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I bought and read Atlas Shrugged due in no small part to Bioshock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.26.117.1 (talk) 17:53, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Misleading...

"The working title throughout her writing was The Strike. According to Barbara Branden, the change was made for dramatic reasons––Rand believed that titling the novel 'The Strike' would have revealed the mystery element of the novel prematurely."

She did this with all of her novels, giving them titles that would help remind her what the central theme was, but then changing the titles to something that would not be understood by the reader until after the novel had been read. This is explained in Anthem Centennial Edition with Introduction by Ayn Rand (ISBN-10: 0452286352 ISBN-13: 978-0452286351), at least.

The above sentence makes it appear it is a quality of the book, while it should emphasize it was really a quality of the author's style.

For example: Airtight became We The Living Ego became Anthem Second Hand Lives became The Fountainhead

Small suggestion to an excellent article.

[edit] Mistake...

Dr. Robert Stadler is not the character who blackmails Rearden. It's some Ferris Fueller or someone.Mehfoos (talk) 21:53, 3 October 2009 (UTC) (I forgot to sign earlier)

Floyd Ferris. The whole passage about the State Science Institute wanting Rearden Metal was filled with POV interpretations and assorted mistakes, all related to a relatively minor subplot, so I just chopped those sentences entirely. --RL0919 (talk) 23:21, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

This sentence is difficult to parse: "As this unfolds, Dagny is disappointed to discover that Francisco d'Anconia, a true genius and her only childhood friend, first love, and king of the copper industry, appears to have become a worthless playboy who is destroying his family's monopoly, which has made him into one of the richest and most powerful men in the world."... perhaps 'which has' should be 'which had'? (I'm not sure) --Bobbozzo (talk) 07:11, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] South Park

This book is referenced in South Park's Chickenlover episode. please add it as cultural reference to the article. Thanks --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 18:12, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I removed the sentence "Atlas Shrugged is referenced in the South Park episode "Chickenlover" by the character Officer Barbrady." from the article as I felt it didn't really add anything. Camilo Sanchez disagrees with me. Did anyone want to comment? Pollinosisss (talk) 22:46, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Some discussion of the novel's representation in pop culture is relevant, but a single-item listing about this one episode doesn't really address it in a way that is appropriate for an encyclopedia article. --RL0919 (talk) 01:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Look, I understand the position of many people regarding articles that are very academic in nature. I am not saying it improves or diminishes the quality of the article. I just think it is useful. Think about it. What if there is anyone out there who wants to find a connection between something so popular as South Park and something as academic as Atlas Shrugged. You don't imagine the usefulness of such connections in a web based encyclopedia as this one. --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 02:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Praise and influence - Tea Party Protests

Is the citation that "100 fans of the book ...took part in protests" really relevant to the article? If it can be documented that Atlas Shrugged is a major influence on the Tea Party movement, then that's relevant and should be included. As it is, the connection is not clear from the references and it seems that this sentence is ripe for deletion. Every minor protest event (and 100 participants is pretty minor) shouldn't merit a Wikipedia citation. The second reference (http://colorado.newsplatoon.com/2009/02/24/denver-tea-party/) doesn't mention the author or the work at all. Mr swordfish (talk) 16:01, 28 October 2009 (UTC)