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[edit] Miscellaneous comments

Unless someone can find a citation that Jacqueline Kennedy was inspired by the eternal flame at the arc de triomphe, we should consider this coincidence and it should be removed. This isn't fact, but theory, pretty much urban legend. 74.135.11.200 (talk) 22:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


Is it right to say 'the' tomb of the Unknown soldier, shouldn't that be the the French tomb of the Unknown soldier or the tomb of the Unknown soldier in France? -Adrian.

agreed 74.135.11.200 (talk) 22:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm severely tempted to say I don't know.


I like the idea of being more specific about which Tomb of the Unknown. I believe in the United States the Tomb is in Arlington National Cemetary, but I don't know if the tomb is of a soldier killed in the first world war, the second, or the civil war, or what. I guess one soldier is enough, its the idea that counts.

Regardless, being specific that it's the French Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, is a good revision, do it.

Since the article is about the Arc de Triomphe, carefully specifying that it's a French unknown soldier is like referring invariably to "Paris France," isn't it? It seems a little parochial. Wetman 17:55, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Attendance at opening

"Upon its completion, the Arc de Triomphe was so far from the center of town almost no one showed up for the opening ceremony. " Since the Champs-Elysées was already lined with grand 18th century private houses, I removed this assertion here. Wetman 01:50, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The above comment was part of the article - I moved it to the talk page. Rhobite 15:26, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Vestal Virgin date

"...the first eternal flame lit since the Vestal Virgins' fire was extinguished in 492 CE"

...

"Their sacred fire was treated, in Imperial times, as the Emperor's household fire. It burned until AD 391, when the Emperor Theodosius I's decreees forbade public pagan worship, had the fire extinguished, closed the Temple of Vesta and disbanded the Vestal Virgins."


Which is correct? Demiurge 14:55, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sacred fire of Vesta gives a third date, AD 394!

Demiurge 15:09, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The "Theodosian decrees" are mentioned under Theodosius I. Dates 391 - 394 or so are credible. That 5th century date was a gaffe, or just a tpyo.... --Wetman 16:54, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] List of Victories

We should add something noting that the list of 'victories' on the AdeT are in some cases clearly wrong and in others certainly questionable. The list reflects political considerations as much as a calm asessment of the military reality. I would give as examples Corunna, Oporto, Toulouse and fuentes d'onoro. Alci12 17:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

A complete list of the victories insctibed on the Arc de Triomphe should be included in a note. The following text was deleted by someone: "The list of victories includes as victories contested battles, such as Corunna, Oporto, Toulouse." --Wetman 12:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


  • I want to say to you that I was at a lecture when " Arc de Triomphe " was mentioned, but the question is (( What do we call it in english??? )) please send me the answer as soon as possiple. <email removed to prevent spamming>yours . rajo Palestine / Gaza
Well...The literal translation of Arc de Triomphe is simple, Arc of Triumph! Translating it is like translating Le Tour Eiffel; The Eiffel Tower and me of course
Although, no-one actually translates it! The Arc de Triomphe is always called the Arc de Triomphe in English. However, Le Tour Eiffel is always translated... perhaps it's because such arches are uncommon (so the name is left as is) but towers are very common (so we use our usual naming conventions). I realise yours is a literal translation, I think a more effective translation would be simply "Triumphal Arch".

[edit] Coordinates

where is it? maybe coordinates? 70.190.180.166 23:40, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WWII

Reading the article, it seemed odd to me that there was no mention of the Nazi troops parading through it when they invaded Paris. There were more than a few psychological reasons for this action. Now as I was searching the web for a reliable source about it, nothing turned up. Maybe we'll have to go to the books? Do others think this incident is noteworthy for inclusion?--Rockero 19:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In Popular Culture section

It was deleted? Any reason why? 'Cause it looks like vandalism that was never reverted... RobertM525 08:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Exact dimensions

Seems hard to get exact dimensions that agree with each other; two sources below gives different heights but same depth. So I thought I put the depth in. If anyone know the exact dimension that would be great.

http://www.answers.com/topic/arc-de-triomphe?cat=travel http://www.parisdigest.com/monument/arcdetriomphe.htm

maybe it use to be shorter, then they build upon it? Pseudoanonymous (talk) 02:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wheelchair Access????

Hello,

could somebody please add information about access with a wheelchair? Is it possible, possible with an assistant or not possible?

Cheers, Bunny —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.245.215.16 (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Hiya this is casey from the ps3 network im wondering what is the name fo this ... con... well i so not know can anyone help- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.83.155 (talk) 18:56, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

allo je suis Thom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.151.168.46 (talk) 11:13, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Arc de Triomphe, a symbol of genocide

Hi SlaveToTheWage. I saw you removed a section from Arc de Triomphe. This section mentions a current legal development at the highest judiciary instance in Spain. It's well documented and relevant to the article. This legal action is supported by descendants of victims of genocide by Napoleonic Troops. Please explain why you removed this information. Thanks (Niaps (talk) 15:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)).

[edit] From a desdendant of a victim of Napoleon's Genocides

File:Partida Defuncion Manuel Joseph López de Prado.jpg
Transcript of the death certificate of Don Manuel Joseph Martin López de Prado, preserved at the Archives of the Bishop of Lugo.

Please respect the memory of the dead. My ancestor was executed by Michel Ney's 6th Corps on April 20th 1809, in Monforte de Lemos. He had 6 small children, all younger than 10 years old, one to be born less than 3 weeks later. He was assassinated in the most cruel and grotesque manner, in front of his entire family. His wife pleaded he could be administered the Catholic Ritual of extreme unction, but the French prevented it and killed him like an animal. She gave birth prematurely his posthumous son less than 3 weeks later. We know all this because the priest who buried him wrote it down in the book of defuncts of the parish. I have enclosed a transcript here. That very same day, 1,100 innocent civilians of the same village were assassinated in a similar manner. Napoleon murdered millions of innocent civilians all over Europe, and France should be ashamed of this as much as Germany is of the Jewish Holocaust. I do not ask anything from France or the descendants of Napoleon, or those building monuments and celebrating the memory of that genocide. Just respect for the dead and historical truth. (167.206.29.162 (talk) 16:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC))

Hello Niaps and SlaveToTheWage. I'm another descendant of a family tortured and killed by the French during their criminal invasion of Spain. I cannot express how painful is for me to read articles that glorify the figure of Napoleon. Please understand 167.206.29.162, the jews have received historical juctice, and in many countries it is illegal to glorify nazism or the evil figure of Adolf Hitler. Why do we have to stand quiet when we read everywhere that Napoleon was second only to God?? (Niaps (talk) 15:24, 16 May 2009 (UTC))

Section posted on multiple talk pages, discussion centralised on Talk:Napoleon I of France. Equendil Talk 03:55, 17 May 2009 eeehhhheehheheehehhehee(UTC)


Hello there, Napoleon was a military genius, a brilliant reformer, a true warrior, a scientist, a mathematician, a slavery abolisher, he had europeans sights,he was an emperor and a self made man in a period of troubles after the most famous revolution in the world. He and his armies committed crimes, but crimes appears in every war, anywhere it happens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.199.200.227 (talk) 22:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Somalian Arch

there is a similar arch in somalia, "victory Arch" http://www.canadianptsd.com/images/Somalia%2093/Beledweyne1.jpg Should there be any mentioin? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.30.31 (talk) 01:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)




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