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1 Ambiguity & Androids in Fiction sections need cleanup
2 Merge with Bio-Androids
3 Metropolis
4 Usage of the term/notion of "Android"
5 Lists
6 Picture
7 When is an android not an android?
8 He/She vs It
9 Change of direction for this article
10 Androids are not necessarily robots
11 Redefining the terms robot, android and cyborg
12 Aiko
13 First android?
14 Android
- 14.1 Curiosity

[edit] Ambiguity & Androids in Fiction sections need cleanup

These sections contain several duplicative entries. Jon 18:45, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I will try to clean up the Ambiguity section in the next few weeks. Can we agree to limit the lists of fictional androids to 4 or 5 per section? There is a separate article for that after all, the list of fictional robots. Robotman1974 19:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge with Bio-Androids

I vote no. -- Macmelvino 02:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

I also vote no, in fact I feel more android sections should exist for the variations on the main theme such as nanobot (liquid metal) androids and other vartiations.

I vote yes. Seeing as how all these android variations are purely fictional, and can only have fictional references, they hardly merit seperate articles. The future existence of Bio-Androids and Nanobots is also far from certain, whereas work is being done already to produce electromechanical androids. I think it will suffice that the other types be mentioned as variations of fictional androids within a single article. Robotman1974 06:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Also vote yes. Even if they exist, bio android are only a variation of androids. And about anonymous comment, nanorobots also would merge, but that doesn't change my opinnion.

—Nethac DIU, would never stop to talk here—
20:19, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I also would have to vote yes. Radagast83 15:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I have merged Bio Android into this article. After more than 5 weeks, the votes were 3 merge and 2 don't merge. No convincing arguments were given against the merge. Also, I have removed some entries from the "Androids in fiction" section of this article as they were duplicated in what is now the "Bio androids" section. Robotman1974 19:30, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Someone must make a note somewhere that "Robot" in Polish means SLAVE. In the years since RUR was written, the word ROBOT has lost the meaning SLAVE, and now refers to a machine created to do work, and not an artificial man.

I vote no because I think bioandroids(or any kind of biorobot) are cyborgs. I say that because I actually work with cybernetics. - Yes, he is right.

[edit] Metropolis

Just curious, but why doesn't Metropolis (film) get a nod in the fiction section? As far as I know, it is the first mention of android (rather, gynoid) in film; it's pretty much where the idea came from.

192.153.24.130 19:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)-

[edit] Usage of the term/notion of "Android"

I have the Online Etymological Dictionary referencing but not actually citing a usage of "Android" from 1727. It also translates (I think) that usage as meaning "automaton resembling a human being." This could be significant to understanding from where this usage much earlier than the one offered in the wiki-article comes. Does anyone know where this usage is citable, and whether it occurs any other time(s) between then and the 1880s? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PhilosophyMonkey (talk • contribs) 18:17, 25 November 2006.

Yes - I just found an 1883 US patent for "Androides or Automation Shoe Factory" where the "Androides" are mechanical factory workers with human appearance. This predates Villiers' 1886 novel L'Ève future. See [1] Cbaer 17:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lists

The fiction lists in this article need to be cut down or removed entirely IMHO. There are already separate articles for collecting such info, such as List of fictional robots and androids. Robotman ¹⁹⁷⁴ 17:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll agree with this, provisionally: let's leave here any androids that can be considered in some way seminal or pivotal, such as Maria, Otho, Data, and the humanoid Cylons.BobGreenwade 18:07, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Androïd was a current word in French in the 18th century. There is for instance an article in Diderot and d'Alembert's Encyclopedia with the heading Androïd, signed by Diderot himself, that discusses Vaucanson's automatons. Knutel 10:46, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

Hey just a thought, would anyone have an objection if the picture of Jude Law was changed to one of Data from Star Trek the Next Generation? The trivia section allready lists him as probably the most famous android in fiction and to be fair Jude Law's character is hardly as well known or recognisable as an android. --150.101.103.208 06:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with that. ConnertheCat 22:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] When is an android not an android?

Is it when it's a Humanoid robot? Merge anyone? Or am I missing something? Tree Kittens 07:56, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

An android is a completely artificial autonomous robot that resembles a human/humanoid. Ran4 (talk) 21:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

It may not need to be completely artifical, but if it is controlled by a natural human brain it is almost certainly a cyborg.

There are some edge cases. I would probably call RoboCop an android, since despite being controlled by a natural human brain, said brain operates in conjunction with a computer with ability to override decisions from the brain.

There are also significant questions of how closely it must resemble a human to qualify as an android. Obviously being visually insitinguishible would qualify it. But general usage would qualify things as clearly non-human as C3PO as an Android But Asimo is merely humanoid.

I personally tend to think of androids as robots that aesthetically resemble humans rather closely, but not attempting to pass for a human. Thus CP30 and the android shown in the first picture of this page immediately trigger the word android, while Trek's Data, and the "Actroid" would not immediately trigger the term android for me (although I would not dispute the terms appropriateness), but I suspect that has something to do with the particular set of SF I've read. Hope this might help 129.74.229.20 (talk) 01:13, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] He/She vs It

Eh...

I have issue with use of the term "he" or "she" when describing androids. The paragraphs concerning the EveR series make use of "her" a number of times, and, for me, really give of a strong POV vibe. I'd rather not make the change to make it a lot less NPOV in case some consensus had been reached previously of which I am not aware, but I thought I'd bring it up anyways. Magaroja 17:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, as of yet there is no consensus regarding gender use in robotics. "it" should be used instead.Ran4 (talk) 21:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Change of direction for this article

Given the rapid progress in making real androids, should this article now focus on them, and move fictional androids to their own separate article? There is certainly enough information about current projects to make a full article on its own. Damburger 06:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I'd vote hell no —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.173.89.190 (talk) 22:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I like this idea. The article could be split into two, one dealing with fictional androids, and would fall into the "science fiction" genre, and one with real androids, which would be in the engineering/ technology/ science genre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Callivert (talk • contribs) 12:07, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Androids are not necessarily robots

The article states flatly that an android is a sort of robot. This isn't correct. Androids can be robots, but they don't have to be.

A robot, as the term is usually used, implies the ability to sense and respond to its environment. Early android makers created elaborate clockwork dolls that imitated human beings wonderfully but were (being clockwork) completely oblivious to their environment. 4.246.245.97 (talk) 04:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

That's a very good point. Do you have any suggestions for re-wording the opening sentence? How about "An android is a machine, robot[1], or synthetic organism[2] designed to look and act like a human." if there are no objections to this wording, I'll change it. (I'll check back in a couple of days).Callivert (talk) 04:17, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Redefining the terms robot, android and cyborg

I was always somewhat confused about the various definitions of these terms. For example, Data on Star Trek TNG calls himself an android, but I'm convinced that Data is a humanoid robot (i.e. a mechanical entity with a power supply, an iridium sponge brain or neural net, hydraulics, designed to resemble a human being and having artifical intelligence, able to power down via the hidden on/off switch). An android (see Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?) is a biological creation with organic parts and systems resembling a human and having human-like intelligence. The only difference between an android and a human being in this circumstance is gestation/growth/maturity span and lifespan, or possibly lack of DNA. A cyborg is part human and part mechanical, which would make anyone who's had a hip replaced with a titanium joint is a cyborg.

So, here are the definitions I propose:

1. Robot: a mechanical artificially intelligent creation that may or may not resemble a human. 2. Humanoid robot: a mechanical artificially intelligent creation that intentionally resembles a human. 3. Android: a biological entity 'designed' to resemble a human and having some degree of intelligence. 4. Cyborg: part biological and part mechanical entity, may resemble a human, but not necessarily. 5. Droid: Star Wars mechanical entity with intelligence, may resemble a human, may resemble a wastebasket or vacuum cleaner.

Anyway, that's what I think about this and I'm sticking to it.

Regards, Sxfield (talk) 04:13, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Aiko

Maybe we should add something for the new Android, Aiko? :) 99.255.44.133 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 14:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC).

[edit] First android?

This article states that the first android was created by "Intelligent Robotics Lab" a Japanese company. I challange this. The reason I challange this is that we first need a proper definition of what is and what makes an android. If it is "a robot that looks and acts human" then this machine does not qualify. I say that the World's first android has not yet been created. Surely a true android is something akin to Data (Star Trek) and not simply a robot that is designed to interact simply based on a complex set of instruction. I think that an android is something that can pass as a human to most people, not something that merely is shapped like a human and can speak in a human voice.

Comments? fr33k man -s- 01:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I removed the claim, but for a different reason. The gynoid article claims 1986 was the first crude female android, with a cite - if this is disputed (and i wouldn't be suprised if it was, considering the uses it was put to), then citations need to show this. At the moment, there is no evidence against it, and no ecidence for the Intelligent Robotics claim.Yob Mod 10:16, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

you're setting the bar too high. If you take "looks and acts human" to mean human IN EVERY WAY - in the style of, say, Data from Star Trek, then no such thing will be created in the foreseeable future. I think people accept that rudimentary androids will have a limited behavioural repertoire. Callivert (talk) 10:59, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Android

"Android" is new operating system which Google is created for mobile phones Regards - Mukesh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.73.43.160 (talk) 03:29, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Curiosity

What if, u put a face recognition android in front of a mirror ???

Who know answer. Bye —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.40.121.109 (talk) 02:01, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

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