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[edit] Lawsuit suggestion for post-race lawsuit info to be added: the class action suit is making its way through the appeals courts - oral argument from 7th circuit at http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/fdocs/docs.fwx?caseno=06-2718&submit=showdkt&yr=&num=, briefs at http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/efn/efns.fwx?caseno=06-2718&submit=showdkt&yr=06&num=2718, summary from plaintiff's lawyers at http://www.price-law.com/CM/Custom/Formula_One.asp. district court motion to dismiss at http://www.insd.uscourts.gov/opinions/AO9140O1.pdf. Blurrrr 03:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC) [edit] TV coverage This section is turning into a bit of a mess. People keep adding more channels that actually did show the race. As it actually looks like most stations did show it, perhaps we replace the whole section with a very brief comment that one channel (TSN in Canada) didn't show the race and leave it at that. Comments? 4u1e 06:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC) - Good idea. I fully agree, although it's quite interesting to know what the commentators said during the race. --84.161.251.71 16:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC) (de:Benutzer:Ĝù)
- The TV coverage is still a problem, the complaint above was made five months ago. If action on this isn't forthcoming then the article should be nominated for a featured article review, as it no longer meets the criteria. BeL1EveR 11:42, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- After not much being done about this I have took the article to FAR, the discussion is here. Davnel03 17:39, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- I can't help feeling that's a bit of an overreaction guys - you could have modified the section as suggestion above, or even deleted it! 4u1e 13:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
- Which is in fact what I've done: The majority of it was about channels which did show the race, which is hardly notable! I couldn't actually find anything on TSN's alleged non-showing, so I thought it best just to delete the whole thing. Cheers. 4u1e 13:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have a ref for the telecast being terminated early in Australia? I'm pretty sure I remember watching it all the way through. DH85868993 (talk) 01:33, 18 March 2008 (UTC) - I tapped the whole thing and watched it the whole way through. They only skipped the drivers talking at the end after the podium. 11rey619 (talk) 11:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Incorrect info The second ref (F1'S FUTURE LOOKS BLEAK ACROSS THE POND www.motorsport.com Retrieved 2 December 2006) had a wrong title and did not support the point being made about F1 struggling over twenty years in the US. I have removed it pending clarification. Marskell 13:54, 28 October 2007 (UTC) [edit] This article is about the UNITED STATES Grand Prix. Why would you misspell "tire" so many times? In the US, t-Y-re is not a word, t-I-re is. Please spell "tire" correctly from now on. - Your change has been reverted. Although it may seem odd to you to see the British (and European) English spelling used here, Formula One is not an American series.
- Only one North American driver was involved. All of the teams are based in Europe, including the Japanese ones. Half of them are based in England. The tyre supplier primarily concerned here is French. The other is Japanese. The main individuals involved from the sporting authorities (Max Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone) are English. Mosley is the head of the relevant sporting authority, the FIA, which is based in France. The other individual quoted at length, Paul Stoddart, is Australian.
- You have picked up on the word 'tyre' or 'tire'. however, to fully convert the article into US English (ignoring changes in sentence structure etc.) would also mean changing many other terms, like 'straightaway' for 'straight' and 'push' for 'understeer'. But if all those changes were carried out, we'd have an article about a Formula One race written in language that just isn't used in that sport.
- Looking at it another way, which variety of English, UK or US, do you believe that the 2007 NFL match between the New York Giants and Miami Dolphins, played at Wembley stadium in the UK, should be described in? Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 22:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:Engvar#Retaining the existing variety. DH85868993 (talk) 02:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, the point I was trying to make above is not that UK English is necessarily the right variety for this article, but that it is certainly a very strong contender. As such, and as the existing variety, it should not be changed. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 09:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Broadcast refusal This section was deleted a while back in the absence of any references to support it, and on the basis that it appears that the race was broadcast in most countries. Someone has added the section back again, without references. What it boils down to is that the race was apparently not shown in Canada (TFN) or France (TF1). TF1 in France apparently doesn't show the USGP live and direct anyway, as it clashes with something else. I haven't found any decent refs for this, only forum discussions. This is enough to make me believe it, but not enough to use as a reliable source. I'll leave the section in for a bit, but if no-one references it, it will have to go. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 11:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC) - I can't find any refs, and no-one else has, so I've deleted it. If refs are found in future, it can be added, of course. 4u1e (talk) 16:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tyre vs Tire I know this has been discussed above, but for ease of reference here is why the article uses 'Tyre': - There are two possibilities here:
- Use American English ('Tire'): The race was held in the United States.
- Use British English ('Tyre'):F1 is an international championship, and almost all of the individuals and organisations involved in the controversy are European, Australian or Japanese. American racing vocabulary is quite different to European, and is not normally used in F1. There are original quotes in the article that use 'Tyre'.
- You can make a case for using either variety, although to my mind the case for British English is stronger.
- The relevant Wikipedia policy is WP:ENGVAR, which says that
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- "If an article has evolved using predominantly one variety, the whole article should conform to that variety, unless there are reasons for changing it on the basis of strong national ties to the topic. In the early stages of writing an article, the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used, unless there is reason to change it on the basis of strong national ties to the topic."
- The original version of this article used 'Tyre' (see here, as of 19 June 2005). 'Tire' first appeared on the 20th (see here) and was reverted back again later the same day, on the basis that F1 uses British English.
- To a certain extent we've been going back and forth ever since. The original variety used was British English. The appropriate variety to use can be argued either way, but going by the rules we stick with the original and get on with improving other stuff instead! 4u1e (talk) 09:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't matter that this article is about a European racing series. We are talking about the spelling of a small noun - NOT the racing series itself. It should be spelled "tire". Look at at any other article that happens to mentions the rubber road-hugging devices that fit on the wheels of automobiles and you will see they are spelled "tire" and not "tyre". Tnolley (talk) 12:57, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Irrelevent, for reasons already given. Original usage, consistency with other F1 articles, and the fact that very little involved other than the location has much to do with the USA all favour "tyre", rather like the above-mentioned NFL game at Wembley being fine using non-English English (I assume it does, although I've not looked). Riedquat (talk) 14:21, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Riedquat is correct. It's also not true that "any other article that happens to mentions the rubber road-hugging devices that fit on the wheels of automobiles" uses the spelling 'tires'. See Mini, for example. The Wembley NFL game is a hypothetical example - we didn't have an article on it last time I looked. 4u1e (talk) 15:45, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think it should be "tire" because it's in the US. The articles about American soccer teams don't call them football, for the same reason - in the US it's soccer, rather than football. --AW (talk) 19:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- And in the US they're American teams playing in an American league, with American players and American owners etc. This is all slightly irrelevant anyway, since the article started with UK spelling. See WP:ENGVAR. 4u1e (talk) 08:29, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Best race for the portuguese guy I remember hearing that the position that Tiago Monteiro was the best a portuguese f1 driver has ever got... I think that should be added :) - added by 213.138.247.97 (Talk) at 00:12, September 6, 2008 - The article states that it was the first podium finish (and therefore, by definition, the best finish overall) for a Portuguese driver. DH85868993 (talk) 00:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
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